Mary, Queen of Scots (1971)

  • metta

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    Feb 16, 2013 2:44 AM GMT
    Mary, Queen of Scots (1971)

    I was surprised to see this scene at 43:17:

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    Feb 16, 2013 5:40 AM GMT
    I always knew Bilbo was gay.
  • DanOmatic

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    Feb 16, 2013 12:57 PM GMT
    Mary's son, the future James I, had well-documented love affairs with men at court.
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    Feb 16, 2013 1:31 PM GMT
    ^^ Maybe James got it from his father, Henry Darnley ( Timothy Dalton in the movie). Darnley fathered James, but was known to swing both ways.
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    Feb 16, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
    DanOmatic saidMary's son, the future James I, had well-documented love affairs with men at court.


    While he is widely thought to be bisexual, the "well documented" affairs are more like well documented rumors. Hard to pin it all down.
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    Feb 16, 2013 4:17 PM GMT
    Actually, I was surprised that they had such a scene in 1971. I wonder how controversial it was to do that back then.
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    Feb 16, 2013 4:37 PM GMT
  • newtosyr

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    Feb 16, 2013 8:47 PM GMT
    I agree metta8...probably raised quite a few eyebrows! AvgJock it is hard to prove in that era, lots of rumors and accusations but few of the accused talked about any of their sexual escapades. James (aka Harry) did write some pretty explicit letters to the Duke of Buckingham though!
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    Feb 16, 2013 9:45 PM GMT
    James still managed to, as he put it, 'sire a whole litter of pups' (four, unlike Elizabeth).

    I think the relative lack of controversy could be due to the fact of the characters being aristocrats and they`re judged differently from other people in the UK. They have the most social confidence to be themselves, regardless of conventions, etc. People almost expect them to be strange. The story is also well distant in time, in a society different to ours.

    It`s an historical film from the seventies and so may still be seeing British history as a story populated with dramatic, colourful, and eccentric characters.
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    Feb 16, 2013 10:26 PM GMT
    DanOmatic saidMary's son, the future James I, had well-documented love affairs with men at court.


    His favorites where awarded richly too. But dear James was not gay, he was a bisexual, and thats neither straight or gay; it;s bi. He was also loathed for forcing straight men into submission, and was a cold abusive husband too.
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    Feb 16, 2013 10:42 PM GMT
    metta8 saidActually, I was surprised that they had such a scene in 1971. I wonder how controversial it was to do that back then.


    How deprived you poor little Americans have been. Number 96 that ran from 1972 to 1977, knowen for sex scenes, nudity, as well the first Aussie Soap to feature an openly homo character.

    So as an Aussie, for one to see a scene done in 1971, that was to make a quick reference to homosexuality, is like what did I miss. Because we got it full throttle, on our TVs in our homes from 1972. A full on out homosexual, who was even to meet up with a guy called Dudley, that he had a relationship with. But then we never got into the graphic violence on our TVs in the 1970s that Americans where corn feed on either.
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    Feb 16, 2013 10:45 PM GMT
    Looks like someone has awoken from their hibernation icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 16, 2013 10:54 PM GMT
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    Feb 17, 2013 1:20 AM GMT
    you may find the story of Edward II and his favourite Piers Gaveston; 1st Earl of Cornwall intriguing.
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    Feb 17, 2013 2:02 AM GMT
    ^


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    Damn, I was going to post that! icon_mad.gif

    For years I always used to keep a stuffed penguin on my television set. This is the longer version of that piece.
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    Feb 17, 2013 6:11 PM GMT
    tru_blu_aussie said
    metta8 saidActually, I was surprised that they had such a scene in 1971. I wonder how controversial it was to do that back then.


    How deprived you poor little Americans have been. Number 96 that ran from 1972 to 1977, knowen for sex scenes, nudity, as well the first Aussie Soap to feature an openly homo character.

    So as an Aussie, for one to see a scene done in 1971, that was to make a quick reference to homosexuality, is like what did I miss. Because we got it full throttle, on our TVs in our homes from 1972. A full on out homosexual, who was even to meet up with a guy called Dudley, that he had a relationship with. But then we never got into the graphic violence on our TVs in the 1970s that Americans where corn feed on either.
    OMG what a classic, Number 96.icon_redface.gificon_razz.gif
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    Feb 19, 2013 3:01 PM GMT
    metta8 saidMary, Queen of Scots (1971)

    I was surprised to see this scene at 43:17:

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    The Lion In Winter (1968 ):

    Yawn. Already done. Similarly, by the same actor, a then-21 year old unbelievably hot Ashton Kutcher-ish Timothy Dalton in his film debut playing 19 year old Prince Philip of France and former paramour, with a promise of paramore, to England's King Henry II's son Prince Richard as played by Anthony Hopkins: