2013 VW GLI Autobahn

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    Feb 16, 2013 7:10 AM GMT
    Damn, this car is SEXY. I think it's gonna be my next. Right now I have a GTI and it has been a very reliable car, and really fun to drive.

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    2L 4cyl Turbo 200 HP @ 5100 rpm
    207 lbs/ ft torque
    6 speed manual w/ OD
    0-60 7.8 seconds
    FWD
    mpg 22 city/ 33 hwy
    18" wheels
    Fender premium audio

    Top of the line MSRP: $30,000

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  • TheBizMan

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    Feb 16, 2013 7:38 AM GMT
    It's pretty nice, but the specs seem a little too standard for a $30,000 car.
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    Feb 16, 2013 7:45 AM GMT
    Really? I heard the average car is around $25,000. Seems like you get a lot more with this. I could be wrong. Gas mileage is great though for a sports car.
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    Feb 16, 2013 8:31 AM GMT
    Wow, didn't realize these were so pricey. For $30K, you can get an Audi A3 diesel. Same engine, same power. Plus a little more luxury under the Audi name. But if you're not a fan of wagons, then I guess the GLI is the way to go.

    The GTI is a nice ride too. Why not upgrade to the Golf R? icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 16, 2013 5:36 PM GMT
    xrichx saidWow, didn't realize these were so pricey. For $30K, you can get an Audi A3 diesel. Same engine, same power. Plus a little more luxury under the Audi name. But if you're not a fan of wagons, then I guess the GLI is the way to go.

    The GTI is a nice ride too. Why not upgrade to the Golf R? icon_smile.gif


    I'm done with hatchbacks. Now that I'm 30 it's time to upgrade to the granpa sedan icon_lol.gif

    Not sure what more luxury you are referring to. Audis are basically VWs under the hood. And the VW has all the same features of the A3. The reason Audis cost more is you get a better warranty and "free" scheduled service.
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    Feb 16, 2013 6:23 PM GMT
    xrichx saidWow, didn't realize these were so pricey. For $30K, you can get an Audi A3 diesel. Same engine, same power. Plus a little more luxury under the Audi name. But if you're not a fan of wagons, then I guess the GLI is the way to go.

    The GTI is a nice ride too. Why not upgrade to the Golf R? icon_smile.gif


    For $30K the A3 TDI is the base model with halogen headlights and you still have to add another few thousand for heated seats and sports package.

    Personally I couldn't bring myself to buy a GLI when the new MKVII GTI is less than a year away.

    - More power
    - Less weight
    - Mechanical LSD
    - Better fuel economy ( guessing on this )

    Not to mention the new A3 sedan is also about a year away. Well year away for the North American market. Europe gets both new cars first.

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    Or... IMO if you want a car right this instant a new Honda Accord V6 is a better purchase. At least my opinion.
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    Feb 16, 2013 6:29 PM GMT
    timshel said
    0-60 7.8 seconds

    Are you sure about that? There are SUVs that beat that.
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    Feb 16, 2013 6:33 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    timshel said
    0-60 7.8 seconds

    Are you sure about that? There are SUVs that beat that.


    4 cylinder suvs?
  • rnch

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    Feb 16, 2013 6:35 PM GMT
    Are Jettas available in America still assembled in Mexico?

    If so.....EPIC FAIL past 40K.

    Hoping that the German assembled models are more reliable.
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    Feb 16, 2013 6:36 PM GMT

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    Feb 16, 2013 6:42 PM GMT
    rnch saidAre Jettas available in America still assembled in Mexico?

    If so.....EPIC FAIL past 40K.

    Hoping that the German assembled models are more reliable.


    Yeah I wouldn't buy one made in Mexico. My GTI was made in Brazil and have never had a problem with it in almost 10 years. Just gotta check the inside of the driver's side door to see where it's built. I think they are even making some in America now?
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    Feb 16, 2013 6:52 PM GMT
    timshel said
    ART_DECO said
    timshel said
    0-60 7.8 seconds

    Are you sure about that? There are SUVs that beat that.

    4 cylinder suvs?

    What relevance is the cylinder count? If you're gonna tout the specs of a pocket rocket, it better go faster than a fat SUV full of mom, pop & kids.
  • tllguy

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    Feb 16, 2013 7:28 PM GMT
    This latest GLI certainly looks good! I've always liked Volkswagens and there have been several in my family over the years. My first new car was a '91 Jetta GLI which was great. The GTI has been on Car & Driver's 10Best list several times, and the Jetta is basically the sedan version. While the new GTI is due out within the year, the GLI will likely take longer to get to market. Looks like they've given this Jetta the new-look LEDs around the headlights and taillights that are the latest in automotive fashion. Though the specs may not top some competitors, these sporty VWs have that unique, taut VW feel that many people like. The current, more bread and butter models have lost some of that unique feel and styling that set VWs apart.
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    Feb 16, 2013 7:58 PM GMT
    ATC84 said...
    Or... IMO if you want a car right this instant a new Honda Accord V6 is a better purchase. At least my opinion.
    Funny, you mention the Accord. Me and my friends were talking about how we all like it. It seems too nice to be Accord. icon_lol.gif

    Still kind of a bummer they only offer manual transmission V6 on the coupe only. Hopefully, they won't discontinue manual transmission on the sedan completely.
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    Feb 16, 2013 8:00 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    timshel said
    ART_DECO said
    timshel said
    0-60 7.8 seconds

    Are you sure about that? There are SUVs that beat that.

    4 cylinder suvs?

    What relevance is the cylinder count? If you're gonna tout the specs of a pocket rocket, it better go faster than a fat SUV full of mom, pop & kids.


    that's what mods are for
    also suspension, handling, braking system, traction, center of gravity are more important factors into what makes a car drive better
  • rnch

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    Feb 16, 2013 8:35 PM GMT
    timshel said
    rnch saidAre Jettas available in America still assembled in Mexico?

    If so.....EPIC FAIL past 40K.

    Hoping that the German assembled models are more reliable.


    Yeah I wouldn't buy one made in Mexico. My GTI was made in Brazil and have never had a problem with it in almost 10 years. Just gotta check the inside of the driver's side door to see where it's built. I think they are even making some in America now?



    A good friend of mine leased a 2008 Jetta, assembled in Mexico. He loved the car, I loved the car. Red exterior, tan interior, the trick DSG transmission. Interior that rivaled any Audi for quality of materials and richness and attractiveness.

    When the 3 year lease expired, he had all of 29K trouble free miles on the car.

    Over my strong objection, he purchased the car. (I had read of and heard horror stories from high mileage mexican Jetta owners.)

    After about 45K it gave him ALL kinds of trouble: fuel injection, oil & water leaks, electrical gremlins, paint went down hill, interior trim pieces came loose over bumps in the road, mysterious A/C failures, reminded me of Jags of the early 1970's.....

    At 55K he gave up. We fixed everything on that south-of-the-boarder POS we could and he traded it off on a new Camry.
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    Feb 16, 2013 9:07 PM GMT
    For a car that new I'm not impressed. Then again don't like Volkswagons that much anyways. Unreliable if purchasing in the US and expensive upkeep for really no reason.

    Interior looks pretty good though.

    I think a better purchase would be the the Accord V6 as mentioned below.

    Comprable in price and will last you forever if you keep up the maintenance. And the specs are about the same. Also doesn't have embarrassing specs like the VW. I mean come on my 2002 Volvo Turbo could give a 2013 VW GLI a run for its money.

    Also you speak of mods, Honda's will always be cheaper to mod out than VW's.
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    Feb 16, 2013 9:08 PM GMT
    timshel said
    that's what mods are for
    also suspension, handling, braking system, traction, center of gravity are more important factors into what makes a car drive better


    Aside from cheap power upgrades the other characteristics have never been something the GTI/GLI leads the pack at... Again this all just my opinion but the what the GTI/GLI duo does well in blend reasonable performance into a refined car.

    Cars like the Mazdaspeed3 or Subaru WRX are quicker and more agile. A Sciont FR-S is more agile and has a lower center of gravity. A Ford Focus ST is a slight step up from the GTI in nearly all aspects except perhaps refinement.

    But none of those cars I listed are a 4-door sedan. The only comparable compact sedans are a Buick Verano Turbo or Acura ILX 2.4L but are both more comfort oriented than sporty.
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    Feb 16, 2013 9:13 PM GMT
    bronbel123 saidFor a car that new I'm not impressed. Then again don't like Volkswagons that much anyways. Unreliable if purchasing in the US and expensive upkeep for really no reason.

    Interior looks pretty good though.

    I think a better purchase would be the the Accord V6 as mentioned below.

    Comprable in price and will last you forever if you keep up the maintenance. And the specs are about the same. Also doesn't have embarrassing specs like the VW. I mean come on my 2002 Volvo Turbo could give a 2013 VW GLI a run for its money.

    Also you speak of mods, Honda's will always be cheaper to mod out than VW's.


    Accords/ Hondas are dorky. I have never seen a good looking guy driving an Accord. I have seen plenty of valley girls in them though. They are reliable. They're not cool. It's like going to eat at Applebee's vs. Supperclub.
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    Feb 16, 2013 9:33 PM GMT
    timshel said
    ART_DECO said
    timshel said
    ART_DECO said
    timshel said
    0-60 7.8 seconds

    Are you sure about that? There are SUVs that beat that.

    4 cylinder suvs?

    What relevance is the cylinder count? If you're gonna tout the specs of a pocket rocket, it better go faster than a fat SUV full of mom, pop & kids.


    that's what mods are for
    also suspension, handling, braking system, traction, center of gravity are more important factors into what makes a car drive better


    While I agree, for the cylinder to weight ratio, this car should be outperforming a V6 SUV. And VW is not a company that lends itself to modification. Same goes for most European cars. You buy and use those as-is, so you compare it as-is. If you want to talk mods, you go Asian or American.
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    Feb 16, 2013 9:46 PM GMT
    Aight I just found out that these are all built in Mexico for American customers, so there's not way I'm buying this piece of shit icon_biggrin.gif

    Audi A4?
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    Feb 16, 2013 9:48 PM GMT
    timshel saidAight I just found out that these are all built in Mexico for American customers, so there's not way I'm buying this piece of shit icon_biggrin.gif

    Audi A4?







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    Feb 16, 2013 11:24 PM GMT
    VW's are awesome! I agree. It's a very nice car icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 17, 2013 12:05 AM GMT
    timshel saidAight I just found out that these are all built in Mexico for American customers, so there's not way I'm buying this piece of shit icon_biggrin.gif

    Audi A4?


    Because robots in Puebla are worse than robots in Wolfsburg icon_rolleyes.gif

    The engine & transmissions are still built in Germany then shipped to Mexico for final assembly.
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    Feb 17, 2013 2:59 AM GMT
    ATC84 said
    timshel saidAight I just found out that these are all built in Mexico for American customers, so there's not way I'm buying this piece of shit icon_biggrin.gif

    Audi A4?


    Because robots in Puebla are worse than robots in Wolfsburg icon_rolleyes.gif

    The engine & transmissions are still built in Germany then shipped to Mexico for final assembly.


    Good points, I think I was being pretty reactionary. When I bought my GTI in 2005 there were tons of problems with Mexican built VWs. At least the ones with problems were being publicized. Turns out many of the German built ones had problems too. It was a design issue rather than manufacturing.
    I read a good article about the Mexican factory http://www.tirekick.com/TK07/VW-Puebla.htm and it seems like a very state of the art facility. Germany appears to be so confident in it that they built new bridges in Mexico just to be able to handle the loads being transported into and out of Europe via ship. Seeing as how all VWs of America are now built in Mexico, with exception of Passat, and VW had the strongest sales in decades last year, the quality can't be too bad.