shoes, helmet , gloves and saddle ( mtb stuff )

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    Feb 17, 2013 4:58 PM GMT
    so this year i'm due to change all those . So i'm curious to know what some of you guys are using.

    right now my shoes are Time , helmet is a LAS , saddle was a nice Flite Ti which broke, sad to say and i 've put an old thing temporarily on.
    Gloves are EVO which are not expensive and do a great job. I'll probably stick with those unless i find a good deal AND fit . Fox gloves seem to be highly praised but i never tried them .

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    Feb 17, 2013 5:14 PM GMT
    Shimano shoes...very comfortable. Sometimes I forget I'm wearing them.

    Pearl Izumi gloves (with gel pad on the palms). Also very comfortable.

    Stock Bontrager saddle. It sucks if you sit on it for a while, but I don't sit long enough to justify replacing it.

    Kali helmet. It's comfortable till you're sweating a lot. It holds the sweat in, then rains down all over your face when you take it off. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 17, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
    BTW, the best investments I've made so far were the Specialized Bodygeometry grips, and suspension seatpost.
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    Feb 17, 2013 6:05 PM GMT
    Saddles, I love the Selle Italia SL Flow. Fits very well for me. Specialized Phenom comes in at a close 2nd. But as you probably know, find a saddle that measures great with your sit bones.

    Shoes. Best pair of shoes I've liked are Specialized Po MTB shoes. Spesh has a wider toe box that allows me to move my toes more freely. (i.e. they don't feel squished up all the time). What I like about Spesh is that their mid and lower line of the same shoe fit just as well, but has different strapping mechanisms and different sole materials. If you're not too concerned about weight or don't care for a carbon sole, the Comp and Sport lines are great. I currently ride with the Mavic Fury. Got them on a killer deal through my team/shop discount. They're more of a "form fitting" shoe. Not necessarily "tighter", but "form fitting'. They fit my foot really well, breathe really well (not good during the winter), and are really comfortable. Probably the most comfortable shoe I've every ridden with. It's hard to explain without actually trying it, but it just feels more "natural". Bad part is that they are really expensive. Worth the price? That's subjective.

    Gloves. I'm not a big fan of excess gel in gloves. They create too much of a pressure point for me. Pearl Izumi makes a pair of gloves that don't have any gel, but I don't remember which line it is. They're fingerless, as I prefer to know that I'm reaching form when I grab stuff from my jersey pocket. Work really well with ESI grips. ESI grips are awesome, even if you forget your gloves. icon_smile.gif

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    Feb 18, 2013 12:37 AM GMT
    thanks,
    yeah i have a friend who has the Specialized pros and he loves them.. he got the white ones.
    The MAvic Fury are awesome, but at $325 on Pricepoint, gah... !

    the ESI grips seem very light but is the foam resistant? I used to have foam grips because they were ultralight ( back when i was a weight freak ) , but they never lasted a season.
    But those have a color selection.. niiceee icon_smile.gif ..haha.

    Izumi gloves look great. I dont' like too much padding either, but i like some. The EVO have minimal , but they can feel slightly stiff till they heat up on your hands.

    Spec Grips look nice but are they light ?

    Flite SL = great saddle.. i might go for that one.

    suspension seatpost.. i hear they work really well, so downhill sections , dropoffs etc can be much more manageable. Thing is weight.. i'm trying to reduce my bike's over all weight. :
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    Feb 18, 2013 11:50 PM GMT
    xassantex saidthanks,
    yeah i have a friend who has the Specialized pros and he loves them.. he got the white ones.
    The MAvic Fury are awesome, but at $325 on Pricepoint, gah... !

    the ESI grips seem very light but is the foam resistant? I used to have foam grips because they were ultralight ( back when i was a weight freak ) , but they never lasted a season.
    But those have a color selection.. niiceee icon_smile.gif ..haha.

    Izumi gloves look great. I dont' like too much padding either, but i like some. The EVO have minimal , but they can feel slightly stiff till they heat up on your hands.

    Spec Grips look nice but are they light ?

    Flite SL = great saddle.. i might go for that one.

    suspension seatpost.. i hear they work really well, so downhill sections , dropoffs etc can be much more manageable. Thing is weight.. i'm trying to reduce my bike's over all weight. :
    Weight is overrated...especially on downhill sections. Most downhill-specific bikes weight 30+ lbs. I commonly pass guys on $5000-10,000 featherlight bikes on my el cheapo Trek Mamba (highly modified) that weighs in at 29 lbs...not to mention I let a guy use my Specialized hybrid today (34 lbs) and he whooped my ass on the trails...until he ran out of steam, and I passed him (he's 'fresh off the couch' - meaning he's out of shape but has serious skills).

    If you're spending money to reduce weight, you're wasting your money. Mountain biking is as much about strength as it is skill, and even more about skill. If you're going to reduce weight, reduce the weight of your tires and rims, because that's where the physics term of "rotation of mass" comes into play, and helps you accelerate quickly for sections that require momentum.
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    Feb 19, 2013 8:37 PM GMT
    Depends..if you race xc weight makes a diff...whether on you or your bike... all this within reason of course .but xc races are won more from your abilities to climb strongly than your expertise at going downhill..this said i'm not racing anymore and weight is secondary.. however it's a habit.. i like the light stuff..so yeah i will spend a bit more for some lighter weight components.
    I don't need a 22pound bike but i don't want a 30 pound one either.
    I like something that stays within a 25 -27 pound limitfor a dual suspension.

    Wheni decided to increase upper body muscle mass i went from 177 pounds to 195....haha... so i had to reassess my obsession with weight :
    I'm now down to 190 but still .i feel like a gorilla now.. but i prefer my 15in arms to my previous 13"...:p
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    Mar 03, 2013 11:48 PM GMT
    xassantex saidDepends..if you race xc weight makes a diff...whether on you or your bike... all this within reason of course .but xc races are won more from your abilities to climb strongly than your expertise at going downhill..this said i'm not racing anymore and weight is secondary.. however it's a habit.. i like the light stuff..so yeah i will spend a bit more for some lighter weight components.
    I don't need a 22pound bike but i don't want a 30 pound one either.
    I like something that stays within a 25 -27 pound limitfor a dual suspension.

    Wheni decided to increase upper body muscle mass i went from 177 pounds to 195....haha... so i had to reassess my obsession with weight :
    I'm now down to 190 but still .i feel like a gorilla now.. but i prefer my 15in arms to my previous 13"...:p
    When I first got my Trek Mamba (hardtail) it was a whopping 34 lbs. With a shitload of mods, it's now 29 lbs. In the process, I gained 5 lbs (muscle mass - bulking).

    I tried a 23 lb Cannondale Scalpel a few weeks ago (friend's bike) and did worse on it than I do on my Trek. icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 03, 2013 11:55 PM GMT
    HOW could you do worse on such a great bike !!!!????? the Scalpel is such a lovely bike !! icon_smile.gif
    23 pounds.. those numbers still give me wet dreams but are beyond my reach for now.
    Last time i had a hardtail i had managed to bring it down to 21 pounds something. ( riding semi slick Schwalbe Hurricanes 1.7 in ). But i never regretted switching to a heavier dual.
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    so you swapped 5 pounds of bike for 5 pounds of muscle ? i think it's a great move.
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    Mar 04, 2013 12:00 AM GMT
    xassantex saidHOW could you do worse on such a great bike !!!!????? the Scalpel is such a lovely bike !! icon_smile.gif
    23 pounds.. those numbers still give me wet dreams but are beyond my reach for now.
    Last time i had a hardtail i had managed to bring it down to 21 pounds something. ( riding semi slick Schwalbe Hurricanes 1.7 in ). But i never regretted switching to a heavier dual.
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    so you swapped 5 pounds of bike for 5 pounds of muscle ? i think it's a great move.
    I think it was because the Scalpel is a 26er, and I'm used to a 29er. I kept bottoming out on logovers, and sucked shit in the switchbacks. icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 04, 2013 5:15 AM GMT
    The Scalpel has a much, much racier geometry then the Mamba. It's super fast and extremely responsive. Not really meant to take high jumps, but a fine bicycle it is. Kind of like driving a pick-up truck and then a sports car. It rides and feels different. Just depends on the kind of ride you like. icon_twisted.gif
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    Mar 05, 2013 2:27 AM GMT
    SoloXCRacer saidThe Scalpel has a much, much racier geometry then the Mamba. It's super fast and extremely responsive. Not really meant to take high jumps, but a fine bicycle it is. Kind of like driving a pick-up truck and then a sports car. It rides and feels different. Just depends on the kind of ride you like. icon_twisted.gif
    I loved the speed of it, but I prefer high jumps, which the Mamba takes great! Just ramped a 6' tabletop today and landed flat on the other side (~10' of air)...landed without issue (although I did have to tighten a couple spokes after the ride).
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    Mar 08, 2013 5:30 AM GMT
    ah, well then you're more into north shore style then.
    so yeah, you want a sturdier bike , those light machines will not survive big jumps very long .. if at all. You're 6'2" . so not a 125 pound rider either which makes a difference for the bike .

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    i finally got shoes, but they're not high end, sort of average but good value :
    Shimano MD88.. they are light enough, i don't care for a carbon sole or extremely breathable mesh and so on, and they will last what they will last.
    I have so much stuff to buy and i have to face enormous bills this year sooo... average is good icon_smile.gif
    next month ill get a helmet
    and after that shorts , saddle .. and some bits and bobs.
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    Mar 08, 2013 10:54 PM GMT
    xassantex saidah, well then you're more into north shore style then.
    so yeah, you want a sturdier bike , those light machines will not survive big jumps very long .. if at all. You're 6'2" . so not a 125 pound rider either which makes a difference for the bike .

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    i finally got shoes, but they're not high end, sort of average but good value :
    Shimano MD88.. they are light enough, i don't care for a carbon sole or extremely breathable mesh and so on, and they will last what they will last.
    I have so much stuff to buy and i have to face enormous bills this year sooo... average is good icon_smile.gif
    next month ill get a helmet
    and after that shorts , saddle .. and some bits and bobs.
    The only thing "high end" I have is taste. icon_lol.gif

    The best investment I've made is pads (elbow, forearm, knee, and shin). They helped today when I had a really serious wipeout falling off a skinny wooden bridge onto a culvert. I guess that's what I get for trying to go too fast to show off for a friend. icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 14, 2013 6:40 PM GMT
    i hate skinny bridges ... not that i ever came off one but i always contemplate the possibility. Esp if they go downhill and turn 10 feet above ground .. there is one in a trail nearby, i usually chicken out..haha. i dont wear any pads of any sorts and i just finally got over a big shoulder injury.
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    Mar 15, 2013 12:43 AM GMT
    xassantex saidi hate skinny bridges ... not that i ever came off one but i always contemplate the possibility. Esp if they go downhill and turn 10 feet above ground .. there is one in a trail nearby, i usually chicken out..haha. i dont wear any pads of any sorts and i just finally got over a big shoulder injury.
    I love them. In fact, I wanna ride this:

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    Mar 21, 2013 2:23 AM GMT
    Unintended saidI have a Turner Sultan 29er FS and I would not trade that for a lighter bike given the conditions under which I ride, even though it includes a lot of vertical. For example, this coming Saturday's ride is 46 miles with 5000+ vertical feet of climbing. Many of the trails are still covered with snow making for a slow but fun day! There is an interesting trade-off between rocks and snow.

    A smaller or lighter bike might be more suitable for some riders. 5 pounds more of bike on me at 190 pounds does not matter much. On somebody 130 pounds, the extra weight is more pronounced.

    Having tried them all, I am a die-hard WTB saddle fan, although this is obvious a very personal choice. My shoes are Specialized Pros for summer and Lake's for winter.

    The whole rotating weight thing is over-hyped. OTOH, tire choice can make a big difference in performance. My bike came with Kenda Nevegals. However, when I changed to Schwalbe Hans Dampf tires, I noticed an immediate improvement in both performance and grip, which is substantiated by testing.

    My snow tires are now of course Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pros...
    I busted one of my Nevegals and switched to Schwalbe Racing Ralph...great for sand and "some" mud. Once the rainy seasons kicks in here, I'll stick my one good Nevegal on the front for better traction in the turns. Other than that, I'm definitely a Schwalbe fan.

    However, there's no fucking way in hell I'd ride in less than 50 degrees F. My blood freezes solid. icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 21, 2013 2:35 AM GMT
    Unintended saidActually, we have more trouble keeping cool than keeping warm.

    But can you ride naked? If not, it's too cold.
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    Mar 21, 2013 3:42 AM GMT
    Unintended saidThere is nothing like riding in snow or on ice. It is my favorite type of riding. Last month, we did a ride across frozen lakes and all agreed it was the best ride of the year.
    Damn. You're weird.
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    Mar 21, 2013 11:24 PM GMT
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    Unintended saidThere is nothing like riding in snow or on ice. It is my favorite type of riding. Last month, we did a ride across frozen lakes and all agreed it was the best ride of the year.
    Damn. You're weird.


    I guess you do not know anyone who skis, snow shoes or ice skates.

    Sad. I guess you don't watch the Winter Olympics...
    I pick on my snowboarding friends all the time like that. icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 23, 2013 4:47 AM GMT
    I've never ridden on ice or in snow, but the coldest I've mountain biked was 17 F. As long as you're got the right layers and gear, it's really not that bad. And all I had on was my race kit with arm/leg warmers, winter cycling gloves, skull cap, shoe covers, and a base layer. My buddies who were their thickets winter jackets were overheating. I actually enjoy riding in the cold.
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    Mar 24, 2013 1:33 AM GMT
    SoloXCRacer saidI've never ridden on ice or in snow, but the coldest I've mountain biked was 17 F. As long as you're got the right layers and gear, it's really not that bad. And all I had on was my race kit with arm/leg warmers, winter cycling gloves, skull cap, shoe covers, and a base layer. My buddies who were their thickets winter jackets were overheating. I actually enjoy riding in the cold.
    None of that stuff will stop the cold air going into your lungs, which cools off your insides. That's what kills me with cold weather...I simply can't breathe.
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    Mar 26, 2013 4:30 PM GMT
    why riding when you could XC ski ;p
    i've gone biking in hard packed snow, on ice etc but i never really got into it.
    Also, it's not very good for shocks.

    if there are well packed trails in winter i prefer running on them if skiing conditions aren't good.
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    Mar 29, 2013 4:11 PM GMT
    aaah, shame about skiing, it's fun .. icon_smile.gif

    thing with trail riding in snow, the first bike to pass is fine, he gets the hard trail, but then he creates a small groove in the snow, making it a bit softer.. then comes the 2nd bike, he manages ok, but already steering gets tricky.. comes the 3rd biker , swearing away because he's all over the place . haha ;p
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    Apr 12, 2013 2:12 AM GMT
    thanks..
    but.. do i really come off as a total n00b ? teehee. icon_eek.gif