Restaining furniture? Any refurbishers/furniture makers out there? Need help!

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    Feb 18, 2013 12:16 PM GMT
    Okay... So me and a friend decided to buy matching pine chest of drawers, and refurbish them and see who makes a better one. However... It's apparently harder than it looks haha.

    I bought this one

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/321071847555?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

    So now I'm going to sand it back and stain it black, however I've seen a lot of dodgey ones done this way. So I want to end up with a result like this

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Black-Chest-of-3-Drawers-Great-condition-Ikea-Hemnes-Must-Sell-/221189491892?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item337febccb4

    So far, im using 80 grit to sand it back, then like 240 to smooth it. Black stain... however to get the result above im not sure what method to use, because when my ex stained his roof in the kitchen he used a rag, they looked great. but he used a brush to stain them in the lounge n they came out way too dark and blotchy. So i was think very light stroke of a brush. and build it up to what I like if it's not dark enough.

    I'm not doing a 2 in 1, but a separate stain and varnish. But I want a REALLY glossy look, like really glossy, so should i just apply multiple coats of the gloss, or look for something that will give a better finish?

    P.s. I'm also going to get new handles haha. I want it to look really nice and modern.

    thanks for your help guys!
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    Feb 18, 2013 1:12 PM GMT
    OK good news is your going from a lighter stain to darker. So I would do what you have already planned; going from 80 to finer grit..... prob up to 300grit( ish) then use a damp rage and wipe wipe wipe all the dust off with a rag soaked in H20 and wrung out until its damp.This gets rid of the dust and becomes a cheap " wood conditioner"( google is your friend). Stain it and wipe it off Don't let a puddle of stain sit, or that area will be darker. Its better to do more coats of stain where you wipe it off " too soon" then leave on 1 heavy coat.... For the topcoat " clear coat" Do multiple coats and sand with something like 200+ grit in between coats. If you want the final shin to look like the picture you posted then DONT use a high gloss polyurethane..... If you do however want it to look like glass then high gloss is your man.


    Finally Don't stain and Varnish where you just sanded..... all that dust on the floor will end up in the final coat...... if you must do this in say a garage.... then sweep up the floor as best as you can or vacuum it and then for even better safety use a hose and wash down the floor( make it wet) so anything else on the floor cant be made airborne. All these tips go for painting anything too really from wood to metal( cars etc).
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    Feb 18, 2013 1:53 PM GMT
    Thanks man very helpful!

    What would you put the stain on with? a rag? a brush? A roller? I want the exact same result as in that bottom pic I posted. Except I want a high gloss finish.
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    Feb 18, 2013 2:42 PM GMT
    EH a brush or rag is fine..... Id prob use a rag and you then use another rag to wipe it back off....... So find some old crappy t-shirts( undershirts/ boxers/briefs etc) and make use of em.... icon_biggrin.gif

    Forgot to mention, you need to be sure you have all of the old clear coat/ wax sanded off the dresser before you stain, if any is left then the stain wont stick and when you wipe off you will see that " honey" color still showing.
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    Feb 18, 2013 2:50 PM GMT
    Yeah, Im gonna sand it back really well. I just want a really good outcome! I just hope the black comes out well!
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    Feb 18, 2013 2:54 PM GMT
    You say you want a "really REALLY glossy look"
    Sounds to me like a Chinese Lacquer technique could work for this project.

    It require several layers of tinted varnish, here's a "how-to" for you.

    http://www.ehow.com/how_12024030_paint-chinese-furniture-high-lacquer.html

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    Feb 19, 2013 1:03 AM GMT

    Before staining and again before the finish coat, wipe the piece down with tack cloth to remove the dust you stirred up when you sanded.

    It's not so important what you put the stain on with, it's how you wipe it. I use flannel cut from a roll at a fabric store. They always have some ugly stuff on sale cheap. The amount of time you leave the stain on before wiping is important--I always use a timer on every piece. The amount of pressure you use as you wipe must be reproduceable as well. Practice on some pieces of the same species wood and when you get a result you like, then you just duplicate all the parameters.

    Tung oil will give the super glossy look you want. Simple to use--just follow the directions on the can.

    If you have questions, email me and I'll help you with it. I've done an entire kitchen as well as some impressive furniture pieces.

    P.S. You DO realize that could just buy that exact chest at Ikea, right?

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    Feb 19, 2013 1:07 AM GMT
    Step one: Try and fail.

    Step two: Try and do better, but still fail.

    Step three: Nice progress, but still fail.

    Step four: Much better bro, but still fail.

    Step five: Holy shit bro, that's fucking awesome!
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    Feb 19, 2013 1:17 AM GMT
    Pine can soak up stain in uneven ways. I'd recommend wiping with denatured alcohol after you're done sanding then applying a staining sealer. If you want a uniform look, go with a gel stain. I like to use wipe on poly, you need several coats but the finish is great when you are patient.
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    Feb 19, 2013 1:19 AM GMT
    Timbales said...
    If you want a uniform look, go with a gel stain.
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    ^that
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    Feb 19, 2013 1:06 PM GMT
    how long should i leave the stain on before wiping it off?
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    Feb 19, 2013 2:28 PM GMT
    Id start with 1min or less and then decide if the next coat needs to stay on longer.
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    Mar 06, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
    so what did it end up looking like? icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 06, 2013 4:10 PM GMT
    Just paint it, using a high gloss finish wood paint on a suitable undercoat. Apply a thin coat of gloss, allow to fully dry and rub gently with fine wire wool. Repeat until desired finish is achieved.