too skinny with my shirt on, too big shirtless

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    Feb 18, 2013 3:41 PM GMT
    OK guys, this might be more of a rant than an actual question, but I'm still looking forward for your responses, especially the inappropriate and funny ones.

    A lot of guys on RJ hotlist me and tell me I'm well built. But the truth is that if I had a pic of me with my shirt on, most of them wouldn't give a shit about me. I'm actually pretty skinny at 187cm (I think it's about 6'2") and only 75kg (165lb). A lot of people, strangers, tell me I should gain weight. In my country a real man is a big man, it doesn't matter if you're fat, just be big. And I rarely catch anyone checking me out when I'm in a club etc.

    On the other hand as soon as I take off my shirt people are like: WOW, I didn't know you're so muscular. (The same people that call me skinny when I'm clothed.) At beach and swimming pool there are a lot of people checking me out.

    Today I was at my GP's and she told me to take off my tshirt to hear my lungs. So I did. She was like:"Martin don't get any bigger!" Then she started questioning me if I take any steroids and when I said "NO!", she was like there could be hidden anabolics in my regular supplements. icon_neutral.gif I was too confused to say anything at the moment.

    If I was fat she wouldn't tell me that! It's not fair, it's not my fault that no fat sticks to me. If I was 90kg and it wasn't only muscles she wouldn't say a damn thing, but because I have minimal bodyfat she tells me to not get any bigger. How come she accuses me of taking steroids and ruining my health because of it? If I could get bigger other way than getting more muscular, I would do it. But it doesn't work that way for me obviously. It would be also quicker and easier for me.

    Don't get me wrong I like when people compliment on my abs and definition. But most of them have no idea what it is like to be skinny and get underestimated because of it most of the time.

    Do you guys think I should speak to the doctor, because she really made me feel bad about myself, so she won't talk to others who are skinny that way? Or should I leave it because I would look crazy?

    Am I crazy?
  • rnch

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    Feb 18, 2013 5:08 PM GMT
    I'd find another GP.

    She sounds like a narrow minded idiot.
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    Feb 18, 2013 5:25 PM GMT
    rnch saidI'd find another GP.

    She sounds like a narrow minded idiot.


    Well to be honest, I have to find another one anyway, because she's a pediatrician. :/

    I know, I know... There wasn't enough time to look for an adult doctor, OK?!?? I was too busy checking my mail on RJ!
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    Feb 18, 2013 5:36 PM GMT
    Your profile only lists height & weight, no other measurements, so it's difficult to get the whole picture about you. It seems you have a swimmer's build, not necessarily skinny, similar to what I had at your age, though I'm much shorter overall. My paternal grandmother was Czech, BTW, so some of my own genes come from that part of Europe.

    First, disregard what others think is the straight norm in Slovakia, even from a physician. What look does the gay community prefer?

    Second, in the US you can buy shirts that are marked "Athletic Build" or "Cut" which means a V-shape, from broad shoulders tapered to a narrow waist. A baggy and square-cut shirt may be making you look skinny. Experiment. If shirts aren't sized that way in your stores, then consider ordering online. The most expensive option is to have your shirts made, or tailored later, taking in the sides at the waist.

    Nothing is sexier in my view than a shirt that follows a man's athletic shape. Not overly tight, but revealing of that lovely V torso.
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    Feb 18, 2013 5:37 PM GMT
    Get a Different Doctor......
    Cultural differences are something that this site doesn't always take into account before the comments start to fly.
    In the US....hell with my personal Doctor, he is used to seeing bodies like yours....very muscular and lean...and it is kind of his expected normal patient, since he handles so many high school, college and pro athletes....and even the casual weekend warriors(like me). You have a GREAT BODY, and shouldn't be any way chastised for it. Find a "Sports Medicine" doctor, cultural biases and religion, etc, have no place in the science of medicine....
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    Feb 18, 2013 5:40 PM GMT
    klobasnik said
    rnch saidI'd find another GP.

    She sounds like a narrow minded idiot.


    Well to be honest, I have to find another one anyway, because she's a pediatrician. :/

    I know, I know... There wasn't enough time to look for an adult doctor, OK?!?? I was too busy checking my mail on RJ!


    ...she must LOVE getting you in her office with shirt off and checking for a hernia! LOL!...making her day!
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    Feb 18, 2013 5:46 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]ART_DECO said....Nothing is sexier in my view than a shirt that follows a man's athletic shape. Not overly tight, but revealing of that lovely V torso.[/quote]




    I quite agree icon_exclaim.gif


    Leaving something to the imagination (and proving just enough muscle mass to activate one's imagination" is always more erotic to me than a skin tight shirt or a half shirt.



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    Feb 18, 2013 6:32 PM GMT
    too skinny with my pants on, too big pantless

    ya just can not win
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:37 PM GMT
    rnch said[quote][cite]ART_DECO said....Nothing is sexier in my view than a shirt that follows a man's athletic shape. Not overly tight, but revealing of that lovely V torso.


    I quite agree icon_exclaim.gif
    Leaving something to the imagination (and proving just enough muscle mass to activate one's imagination" is always more erotic to me than a skin tight shirt or a half shirt.
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:43 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    Second, in the US you can buy shirts that are marked "Athletic Build" or "Cut" which means a V-shape, from broad shoulders tapered to a narrow waist. A baggy and square-cut shirt may be making you look skinny. Experiment. If shirts aren't sized that way in your stores, then consider ordering online. The most expensive option is to have your shirts made, or tailored later, taking in the sides at the waist.

    Nothing is sexier in my view than a shirt that follows a man's athletic shape. Not overly tight, but revealing of that lovely V torso.


    I have all kinds of shirts and tshirts some of them fit me better, some less. I know I look skinnier in some of them, but they are not super size or something, they're only slightly bigger. If I was slightly bigger they would look OK.

    My main problem: according to my BMI I'm okay with my weight, but the fact that t I have no fat on me makes me look smaller.

    Getting a sport doctor would be a great solution, they are more open to this kind of things. But I'm not sure if I can manage to get one.
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    Feb 18, 2013 7:07 PM GMT
    If you can maintain muscularity easily while having very low body fat, you
    (1) have a gift that most guys can only dream of
    (2) can probably get bigger and more muscular much easier than most, but would need to eat more meat, plenty of healthy fat, and vegetables.

    When most guys cut down to low body fat, they lose muscle. But not you. Take advantage of your great metabolism before you get into your 30s. You have a great opportunity to make gains, but realize that it may not be pleasant having to eat more food. Years ago I was much bigger, more solid and muscular, but I had to turn my body into a food-injestion-factory (which I did not like at all). But it was worth it just for the challenge.
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    Feb 18, 2013 7:11 PM GMT
    GigoloAssassin said
    rnch said[quote][cite]ART_DECO said....Nothing is sexier in my view than a shirt that follows a man's athletic shape. Not overly tight, but revealing of that lovely V torso.


    I quite agree icon_exclaim.gif
    Leaving something to the imagination (and proving just enough muscle mass to activate one's imagination" is always more erotic to me than a skin tight shirt or a half shirt.
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    DITTO.
    You have Haters, and you got Admirers, because you work hard for what you achieved. Keep doing what you're doing.

    I hate you btw. icon_wink.gif[/quote]




    I also hate you, btw.



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    You and I could jump into a genetic blender and two perfect, pumped up, muscular, trim, low body fat guys would be poured out.




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  • MichaelUK

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    Feb 18, 2013 7:22 PM GMT
    I have a similar situation to you.

    The best thing to do is go shopping for Muscle Fit or Slim Fit sizes - these bring out the definition in your muscles, without being too tight.

    I'd definitely prefer a smaller defined body than one that is twice the size and drooping in all the wrong places.

    Be happy you can eat what you want and still keep definition - these are the things that some people can only dream of!
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    Feb 18, 2013 7:30 PM GMT
    You don't have to change doctors. She's good at what she needs to be good at. Not having any appreciation for muscularity (and a bizarre steroid overreaction) doesn't disqualify her from checking your actual vitals.

    You can be the one who educates her. "Sorry, doc, I'm actually skinny for my height. I plan to add more mass, and I'll be doing it without steroids, thank you very much."

    Don't sweat this stuff. Maybe you gave her a lady boner, and with all the blood leaving her brain she blurted the first stupid thing that popped in her head.
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    Feb 18, 2013 7:34 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio saidYou don't have to change doctors. She's good at what she needs to be good at. Not having any appreciation for muscularity (and a bizarre steroid overreaction) doesn't disqualify her from checking your actual vitals.

    You can be the one who educates her. "Sorry, doc, I'm actually skinny for my height. I plan to add more mass, and I'll be doing it without steroids, thank you very much."

    Don't sweat this stuff. Maybe you gave her a lady boner, and with all the blood leaving her brain she blurted the first stupid thing that popped in her head.




    It's been my experience that Medical Doctors are not very open to others...especally their patients... "educating"... them in areas that they think they have mental superiority.


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    Feb 18, 2013 7:40 PM GMT
    Michael1 saidI have a similar situation to you.

    The best thing to do is go shopping for Muscle Fit or Slim Fit sizes - these bring out the definition in your muscles, without being too tight.

    I'd definitely prefer a smaller defined body than one that is twice the size and drooping in all the wrong places.

    Be happy you can eat what you want and still keep definition - these are the things that some people can only dream of!


    Slim Fit is available here pretty often, but it's tight on my shoulders usually. (Yes I know it looks like I'm bragging but it's truth.) I have never seen such a thing as Muscle Fit around here. I should definitely try to shop more online...

    So if you guys know about a good online shop with Muscle Fit sizes with Europe shipping I would be glad to hear about it.

    Concerning eating what I want: This is a thing people don't understand the most. Yes, I can eat what I want. But if you're skinny and trying to get bigger you have to overeat very often. And overeating of the food you like makes you not like it anymore. So this is not a win either. Yes, I can have a cheesecake after every meal. But do I still want it after having it almost every few hours? NO. The only working solution is to eat fast and not think about what you eat, just swallow it as quickly as possible. OR you can dine at the finest restaurant with 8 courses, but hey I'm not a millionaire.
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    Feb 18, 2013 7:50 PM GMT
    you should post a pic of you with your shirt on and let us be the judge. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 18, 2013 7:54 PM GMT
    I'd have to see you in person naked to give an accurate opinion.

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  • MichaelUK

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    Feb 18, 2013 8:17 PM GMT
    You need to look into a Hardgainer's diet - because this is what I think you're having problems with. I have the same issue as you, however I do not overeat because I try and keep my metabolism stable with denser food (peanut butter/oats/nuts etc.) that does not causing bloating and some of the issues that you are describing.

    Abercrombie usually have muscle fit T-Shirts. I also wear a T-shirt I borrowed from my friend which is 95% cotton/5% elastine (I think thats what its called) which is the most comfortable thing I have ever worn.

    Why he lent it to me is another story ;)

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    Feb 18, 2013 8:22 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidI don't understand the whole issue. There are a ton of men that find you crazily attractive exactly as you are.


    well not exactly, they don't find me attractive, they find my abs attractive

    maybe I should be thankful that I don't attract those shallow guys at the first sight

    thanks for opening my eyes, Jeff ;)
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    Feb 18, 2013 8:35 PM GMT
    klobasnik said
    Slim Fit is available here pretty often, but it's tight on my shoulders usually. (Yes I know it looks like I'm bragging but it's truth.) I have never seen such a thing as Muscle Fit around here. I should definitely try to shop more online...

    So if you guys know about a good online shop with Muscle Fit sizes with Europe shipping I would be glad to hear about it.

    I only know US sizing. Slim fit is probably not good for you, because you appear to have broad shoulders, a V-shaped torso. Slim fit means a bit scrawny, a rail from top to bottom. That's not you.

    In the US it's most commonly called "Athletic Build" or "Athletic Fit". "Muscle Build" or "Fit" might give you loose sleeves, to accommodate big biceps, with less of a torso taper. As I said earlier, experiment, since you're in Slovakia, and these terms may have different meanings there, and in other parts of Europe.

    But whatever the name, I think you would do best with a nice V-cut shirt, consisting of broad shoulders tapering to a narrower waist. But as I also said earlier, you haven't posted your complete vitals on your profile, and you don't have a lot of pics, so we're kinda working in the dark here.
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    Feb 18, 2013 8:36 PM GMT
    klobasnik said
    Aristoshark saidI don't understand the whole issue. There are a ton of men that find you crazily attractive exactly as you are.


    well not exactly, they don't find me attractive, they find my abs attractive

    maybe I should be thankful that I don't attract those shallow guys at the first sight

    thanks for opening my eyes, Jeff ;)


    Just be a nice guy and stop worrying about your build. You look just fine. As you age, you will broaden some,, but health is the important thing, not some bias toward size alone. Physical attraction is a great way to get notice, but personality is how you keep up friendships.

    I don't know that I would get upset at the doctor for suggesting that there may be hidden anabolics in your supplements. If you want to avoid that stuff, and you should, then why not check things out? She may actually be doing you a favor.
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    Feb 18, 2013 8:52 PM GMT
    LJay said
    klobasnik said
    Aristoshark saidI don't understand the whole issue. There are a ton of men that find you crazily attractive exactly as you are.


    well not exactly, they don't find me attractive, they find my abs attractive

    maybe I should be thankful that I don't attract those shallow guys at the first sight

    thanks for opening my eyes, Jeff ;)


    Just be a nice guy and stop worrying about your build. You look just fine. As you age, you will broaden some,, but health is the important thing, not some bias toward size alone. Physical attraction is a great way to get notice, but personality is how you keep up friendships.

    I don't know that I would get upset at the doctor for suggesting that there may be hidden anabolics in your supplements. If you want to avoid that stuff, and you should, then why not check things out? She may actually be doing you a favor.


    I'm paranoid enough to read the labels every time, but they are pretty common brands so I don't think they would put there something...
  • FitGwynedd

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    Feb 18, 2013 8:56 PM GMT
    Its because your Eastern European, and your massive by British standards but Eastern Europeans are massive people!

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    Don't get stressed about it ;)
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    Feb 18, 2013 9:08 PM GMT
    FitGwynedd saidIts because your Eastern European, and your massive by British standards but Eastern Europeans are massive people!

    Don't get stressed about it ;)


    I might be massive by Chinese standards but not by any European ones icon_biggrin.gif British guys are pretty hot and muscular in my opinion, at least the ones that I've met.