Guys In NYC/NNJ...Help Needed...

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    Mar 14, 2007 9:18 PM GMT
    There is a STRONG possibility I will be moving to NNJ (Hoboken area specifically) within the next month or so for a job. However, I do not know much about the area. I am from Philly so I am "fairly" street smart about where to be and where not to be and mainly where I want to live isn't exactely cheap so that part I think I have down (although any advice is good)...

    Also, I dont know where the best place to live would be in relation to where the PATH comes into Hoboken (for work), if there are any gay-ish bars there or if I should just hit up the city (assumption), gyms, dog parks, straight bars/lounges..everything. I can not find a good website or guide for the area. Does anyone have any ideas? Emailing me direct on here is cool to let me know your thoughts or post them here.

    Thank you SO Much!
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    Mar 14, 2007 10:13 PM GMT
    I live in Manhattan but I have also lived in Jersey City 15 years ago (I have lived in the Tri state area since 1981.) There are only a few stations in the PATH line: Hoboken, Journal Square, Grove Street, Pavonia/Exchange place, then out to Newark area... PATH is very crowded during rush hour, but notoriously slow and infrequent weekends and nights. Most areas near the train stations are now very expensive to live. I don't know much about gay bars in the area though.
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    Mar 14, 2007 10:24 PM GMT
    Yeah, it really is not cheap. Not in the slightest. I pretty much will be paying for the convenience of the city without being in the nyc, spectacular riverfront views of the city and the convenience of having a parking spot/garage spot because I have to have a car for what I do.

    C'est la vie I guess...anyone with more advice?
  • leaozinho

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    Mar 14, 2007 11:46 PM GMT
    well, first, welcome to the area!
    it would be great to have you near!

    I have never lived in NNJ however it seems that yes everywhere that is close to manhattan even via subway or PATH train is very costly for housing.

    I live in Brooklyn Heights which is one stop from downtown manhattan.

    I have coworkers who live in the Jersey City, Maplewood and Hoboken areas. they seem to manage to get to work in a decent way without too much hassle.

    NYC and its environs are so vast and varied, the best way is to visit different neighborhoods and walk around and feel the vibe and check out the shops, etc.

    if you have friends in nyc or nj they can help you because they know ur likes and dislikes.

    your housing costs will be your biggest expense. look at your budget, your projected income with your new job etc. try to be realistic and look at what apts cost to rent or buy.

    best of luck, and feel free to ask me any questions.

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    Mar 15, 2007 6:11 AM GMT
    I also forgot to mention that just because you live in Manhattan or Hoboken, does not mean that it is always convenient. For example, if you live in the WTC, South Strret Seaport, Battery Park City area of downtown Manhattan, these areas are full of activities during the day, but soon after business hour ends (6pm or so,) you are very isolated and there is not much to do and everythig becomes inconvenient. These areas are not well supported by grocery stores, resturants, etc after business hours. They all close after business hours. I have had many friends who moved in then moved out thes areas. Areas like where I have been living (Chelsea) for the past 16 years, I can go downstairs 3am in the morning and get a sandwich if I want.

    The other thing about living outside Manhattan in Hoboken or Brooklyn is that once you leave your apartment for work on the weekdays, you arenot likely to go home back to Hoboken, then back out to Manhattan for dinner again. Most peopel take everything they need to stay out for the day... And if you decided to enjoy the night life, it would be hell to get home at 5am in the morning. For me, everything is within 5 min walking distance 24 hours a day. If I need to take a cab, it is cheaper and faster within Manhattan. So take these things into consideration.
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    Mar 15, 2007 6:16 AM GMT
    Oh I forgot one thing, you need to have a car...? Cars are not a great idea in this area, it is hard to get parking area and it is actually slower than the subway during rush hours...

    I am alsomot 40 and I do not know gas from break, I do not know how to drive since I have been in NYC area since I was 13...
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    Mar 15, 2007 3:22 PM GMT
    Totally things to take into consideration.

    I need my car - I will be working in not only NYC but NNJ and CNJ as well at several hospitals so my car/jeep is an absolute necessity.

    I tend to not go out during the week and because of the nature of my job I do not see that changing much besides the general early (or late - love that) happy hour. Hopefully I won't smell :).

    I think the transition will mainly be living in such a dense area. Philly has a lot of open green space - in fact, I have a mini park where I live now. I realize that I won't get a lot of that but its just changes. I don't mind that stuff in jersey closes up earlier - in fact the entire center city of philly normally shuts up around 7...with some prime areas that stay open later (namely 'south street')...but I dunno.

    My main reason for not living in NYC or the Boroughs is because of the tax that is taken off of comissions. Either way im close enough to the action to be comfortable :).

    Keep the input coming!
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    Mar 15, 2007 10:40 PM GMT
    If you are going to keep your car, you may not want to live in the immediate area of NYC including Hoboken or Jersey City. I know that my friends who own cars park their cars far away and only use them on rare occasions because they would have to take a train to get to the car. A garage for cars, at least in Manhattan, is about at least $400 per month and up. In additino to car insurance and high rent/mortage (a rental of small stuido to a tiny one bedroom in my area averages about $1700 to $2300 and further up per month.) You add all that up with the high living expenses (food, utilities, and all. NYC is now more expensive than SF, NYC is the most expensive place to live in the US and top 6 in the world) taxes, car insurance, car garage, and rent/mortage, you are looking at a lot more $ than the rest of the country...

    There are parks here and there in Jersey and we have a long and big park along the coast of Manhattan West Side from WTC area all the way to to mid town. And there is Central Park, and many many smaller parks in the Tri State Area. But if youare going to have a car, that would not be an issue as you can always drive to them.
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    Mar 15, 2007 10:52 PM GMT
    Hmmm that's a heapin' helpin' of questions! :D. Have you tried ? I think they have alot of valuable info. I don't know much about Jersey but pretty much everything you need will be around the stations here in NYC or close by. Does this help at all?
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    Mar 15, 2007 11:43 PM GMT
    Ha, I did try citysearch and thats why and how I ended up here. Not a lot of info (at least I thought) on necessary things (like good gyms - although NYSC seems to be the overwhelming and obvious standard - hopefully I am wrong). They seem to focus more on the bar and getting around parts which I am fairly comfortable with having lived in a large city my entire life - and frankly is not all I am really concerned about. I am mainly looking for the finer details like gyms and where to get a hair cut...very vain things! Haha.

    As for the car thing, I don't worry about it because my company would be paying for me to have it. So it is a non issue for me whether to have it or not, I will have it (as I will be traveling around the area - not just nyc) quite a bit. As for parking costs, gas, and tolls...expense accounts are beautiful things :).
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    Mar 16, 2007 4:59 AM GMT
    I lived in jersey City a long time ago so I cannot givey ou any information on what is going on in Hoboken presently. I can help you with Manhattan if you would like the information. I used to ahve 2 gym memberships but now I go to NYSC. It is not a good gym as far as equipment or inspiration (and its getting run down and dirty), but it is convenient and all over the city... I am thining about David Barton's (yeah, its like a freaking gay bar with live DJ, but it has great equipment) or even Gold's... I have not made any improvements with my work outs (as amatter of fact went down hills) after I joined NYSC...

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    Mar 18, 2007 5:26 AM GMT
    Went to school in manhattan, grew tired of many places quickly. Though figured I'd mention (depending on the type of crowd and folks you're cool with) the townhouse. Was always a great place to hang out for me anyhow.

    I live in NJ....the lincoln NJ bound at some points are completely painful! Much like any other main means of getting from one state to another I guess.

  • leaozinho

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    Mar 18, 2007 11:53 AM GMT
    As far as gyms in the NYC area:

    NYSC is a standard, like starbucks. numerous locations which is a convenience but not necessarily the best gym.

    Equinox, David Barton are more high end with better quality equipment and high end environment however they are expensive.

    There is Reebok/LA sport club which is very high end too. the one on Columbus Ave is very large. there is one near the 59th St bridge too.

    Crunch has several locations including brooklyn. Crunch is okay and is at a level between NYSC and Equinox.

    I go to the YMCA because they have swimming pools and they are very inexpensive. However, with the Y there are too many kids and straights. :-)

    Gold's and Bally's I dont know well. I went to the Bally's in Chelsea once years ago and thought it low end.

    i hope this helps
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    Mar 19, 2007 12:13 AM GMT
    There is also Chelsea Peirs, the biggest of them all, with golf, mountain climbing, roller blading, gymnastics, hokey, pool, suana, and a BIG weights area.

    Its expensive, and that walk to the piers in the winter is just brutal...
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    Mar 19, 2007 12:15 AM GMT
    And the pros in NYC area tends to go to Steel, which is also mostly gay. They used to go to 19th Street Gym (the old Dolphones, and before that, Better Bodies) as well. There was also the old now defunct Johnny Lats..big time pro and steroid hole...
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    Apr 07, 2007 8:26 PM GMT
    my advice to everyone moving to the area is always to find a sublet for three months on craigslist or something, learn the city, what you like, where you have to dodge strollers all day, what's close to work, etc. then you can find a place with some saavy under your belt.

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    Apr 07, 2007 9:34 PM GMT
    i didn't read anyone else's responses so i don't know if this is already posted.
    i live in west new york, nj, which is two towns away from hoboken.

    first of all, hoboken is way too expensive and if you find yourself wanting to move, find something in wny.

    second, don't stick with bars in hoboken cause they all suck (well not really, but it's not like the gay nightlife in nyc).

    third, if you wanna go to bars/lounges, i can suggest mr. black, vlada, posh, spirit, the roxy (oops that's closed now), avalon, therapy, room service, boysroom, apt., double happiness, pianos, hanger bar, theDelancey, opaline, rush...just to name a few.

    these are all in nyc any all in different areas so just look them on google.

    as for gay gyms, all gyms in nyc are mostly gay (well not GAY but there are so many gay people in nyc that go to gyms), especially in chelsea.

    i think you'll enjoy this area a lot, and i hope u have fun living here. good luck and go out!!
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    Apr 07, 2007 11:49 PM GMT
    I don't really go out anymore, so I can't help you recommending bars and night clubs... But as far as gym goes, I recently canceled my membership with NYSports Club and joined David Barton.

    Many guys I know have now started to boycutt NYSports as there seems to be a common complain about the ever declining quality and poor customer service, especially some local cllubs in Chelsea are starting to hire very rude and unprofessional trainers and staff members who are very anti-gay (especially the one on 8th Ave & 16th Street.) I had a very unpleasant encoutner myself and a complain all the way to the district manager got only an apology from him but not he trainers who behaved anti-gay. This persono still works there...all nonchalent and arrogant. So I took my $ elsewhere...

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    Apr 17, 2007 1:22 AM GMT
    Haha I feel like this is happening so fast but whatever.

    It sucks that I was gonna go there, but now I am looking into Club H and well as anywhere in NJ...I dont mind going to the city for a gym as long as I am on the line of the path.

    As for finding an apt that is an entirely different story as I have yet to see something I really like - except for Port Liberte - I'd rather not pay 2000 for a studio in Jersey City...if anyone has advice for managed communities, I would be grateful. I am coming up the 28th to check out the Avalon communities (edgewater/lyndhurst) as well as a coupld of other places in edgewater and hoboken.

    Thanks for the input guys - I really do appreciate it. I owe some of yas a drink :)