Feds join civil fraud case against Lance Armstrong

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    Feb 23, 2013 7:59 AM GMT
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/cycling/2013/02/22/lance-armstrong-floyd--landis-department-of-justic-whistleblower-lawsuit/1935951/

    Personally, I think this is the way to deal with cheaters in professional sports.
    Cheating in their sport, means their income is based on fraud, and they should face the same kind of charges as every other fraud/thief.

    What's your opinion? what should the consequences be for professional athletes who are caught cheating (doping)?
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    Feb 24, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
    I could really care less. We want athletes to go faster, be stronger, etc. The reality is that almost all professional athletes in the last 20 years are tainted, baseball, football, everyone of these sports is dealing with it. I'd much rather see more home runs by super inflated steroid filled idiots than boring 1-0 games. Same with football, lets see more 300 pound muscle bound morons pounding one another into hamburger meat. Yay. Cyclists? I'd like to see the riders reach speeds of 100 MPH.
    More drugs equals more excitement. Bring on the drugs and excuses me while I drink, smoke dope and maybe find me some of that meth I hear so much about so I can sit back and watch.
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    Feb 24, 2013 7:24 PM GMT
    judoguy said... what should the consequences be for professional athletes who are caught cheating (doping)?
    A gold medal.
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    Feb 24, 2013 7:31 PM GMT
    Fraud is fraud.
    The fact you get celebrity and tons of money out of the fraud is not an excuse, it's aggravating.
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    Feb 24, 2013 9:12 PM GMT
    what bothers me is if he had NOT got caught , the government, the federations, the foundations all would still celebrate the hero WHILE knowing deep down he cheated his way through.
  • silverfox

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    Feb 24, 2013 9:23 PM GMT
    This whole idea of getting "caught" is ridiculous.

    I think there is doping everywhere. All sports.

    And where do you draw the line?

    Does a player who takes "mood elevators" for depression have an advantage over another player? What about "Viagra"?


    I find it frustrating because I don't see an easy answer.
  • gwuinsf

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    Feb 25, 2013 8:42 PM GMT
    If it hadn't been Lance Armstrong it would have been someone else winning that was doped up. I don't know what the answer is either.

    AT least Lance tried to do some good with his celebrity.
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    Feb 26, 2013 4:22 AM GMT
    gwuinsf saidIf it hadn't been Lance Armstrong it would have been someone else winning that was doped up. I don't know what the answer is either.

    AT least Lance tried to do some good with his celebrity.
    +1

    No "clean" person will ever win the gold.
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    Feb 28, 2013 9:04 PM GMT
    well most of the doped ones don't either.. teehee.
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    Feb 28, 2013 9:18 PM GMT
    xassantex saidwell most of the doped ones don't either.. teehee.
    Good point. icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 29, 2013 1:10 AM GMT
    sorry but why the fuck does our government care whether or not some cycling dude was "cheating" when there are plenty of other pressing issues in our country i.e. poverty, the economy, disease, corruption, need i go on?

    the function of government is to maintain order, protect citizens- not this bullshit.
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    Mar 29, 2013 4:55 AM GMT
    In this case, the government cares because it was government money that paid his salary when he was sponsored by US Postal Service. They aren't interested in his doping when he was sponsored by Motorola, Cofidis, Discovery Channel, Astana or Radio Shack.
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    Mar 29, 2013 4:13 PM GMT
    in fact i'm really happy to know he cheated with money from Radio Scrap.
  • Medjai

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    Mar 29, 2013 4:36 PM GMT
    I read a really interesting paper suggesting that medically monitored EPO supplementation should not be considered doping.
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    Apr 04, 2013 4:28 AM GMT
    Unintended said
    Rick_James saidsorry but why the fuck does our government care whether or not some cycling dude was "cheating" when there are plenty of other pressing issues in our country i.e. poverty, the economy, disease, corruption, need i go on?

    the function of government is to maintain order, protect citizens- not this bullshit.


    1) Armstrong perjured himself in a court deposition.

    2) Armstrong defrauded a company (SCA Promotions) out of millions of dollars.

    3) Armstrong threatened witnesses.

    This is not about sports doping. This is about a person who is a criminal.


    And again...this is more about him defrauding the government. As a rider sponsored by the US Postal Service, he agreed to certain terms in his contract that he violated. If a military contractor failed to meet specifications in a contract, but kept all the money paid to it, the taxpayers would demand prosecution too.
  • Medjai

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    Apr 04, 2013 4:32 AM GMT
    I don't know why this is even happening. The USADA is having a shitfit, but the UDI has sted there is no case. They're the only ones with authority to start a real case, and they have a statute that prevent lance from losing any titles. This case shouldn't be opening at all, so no wonder Lance is pissed.
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    Apr 04, 2013 4:38 AM GMT
    He's in for a world of hurt !!

    .. I cant believe I used to jerk to his photos... I feel so cheap..So Dirty !!

    ..When he lost that testicle..that was the universe telling him to man up !!
  • thadjock

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    Apr 04, 2013 4:43 AM GMT
    erik911sd said If a military contractor failed to meet specifications in a contract, but kept all the money paid to it, the taxpayers would demand prosecution too.


    hmm....guess i must have missed the Haliburton/KBR indictment/trial.

    cuz the taxpayers demanded prosecution..........right?
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    Apr 30, 2013 2:47 AM GMT
    Now, if only we cleaned up Congress with the same fervor...
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    May 20, 2013 8:54 PM GMT
    its so sad... What Lance Armstrong did.. drugs didnt bring him to the finish line..

    He have to do the all the works..

    some people cant stand the sight of someone who is better than them..

    who give the fuck?

    i dont..

    to me, he has the balls to do the tour de france.. steriod-up or not.. i dont care..

    it digust me that people look for the tiny things to taint the images.. this is why we will never have superheroes...
  • venusrider

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    May 20, 2013 9:49 PM GMT
    thadjock said
    erik911sd said If a military contractor failed to meet specifications in a contract, but kept all the money paid to it, the taxpayers would demand prosecution too.


    hmm....guess i must have missed the Haliburton/KBR indictment/trial.

    cuz the taxpayers demanded prosecution..........right?


    Unless it was for "green" technology