Hey any of you guys ever been to Dubai?

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    Feb 24, 2013 1:21 AM GMT
    my son has been bugging me for a cool cruise to go on, just did not know anything about it
  • calibro

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    Feb 24, 2013 3:43 AM GMT
    not the gay cruise...
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    Feb 24, 2013 3:45 AM GMT
    I worked in Kuwait for a few years been to dubai a couple of times. Why would you want to go to dubai?
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    Feb 24, 2013 4:23 AM GMT
    Why would anyone want to go to a country that has a govt that believes gays should be put to death?
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    Feb 24, 2013 4:38 AM GMT
    My son has in interest in Architecture and they have some cool buildings there, it was just a stop on a cruise and I was just curious.
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    Feb 24, 2013 4:50 AM GMT
    My dad travels there for work, said its really different and is one of those places you should wait a while to go to.
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    Feb 24, 2013 4:51 AM GMT
    Hmm...I wanted to do an internship there this summer because it is a beautiful place, but I didn't know they were that homophobic =/
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    Feb 24, 2013 5:01 AM GMT
    I have been living here for the past two years and I can say it' a great city, vibrant, busy, friendly people and amazing weather October to April, the rest of the year, hot as hell! ;) If you're looking for pure Middle East culture, this is not the real experience as the city (apart from the old town) is so new but there is a lot to do, great water parks, beaches, water sports, desert safaris, hiking in the mountains, every kind of restaurant you can imagine and some of the biggest shopping malls in the world plus the tallest building! It's not for everyone but most who come here love it. To those who critique it for its atttiude towards gays, women, drink.....you will be totally surprised, show respect, keep things discrete and you are allowed to do pretty much anything you want. Make a fool of yourself and draw attention, yep, you will get into trouble, but not for being gay, just for being a social idiot! If you want more info PM me! Have fun!
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    Feb 24, 2013 5:13 AM GMT
    Yes, I concur with afl35. I travel to Dubai 2-3 times a year. Quickly sums up is that it is an International State. Visit any country just like you are visiting someone's home with courtesy and respect. Cheers.
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    Feb 24, 2013 5:18 AM GMT
    Zemy saidHmm...I wanted to do an internship there this summer because it is a beautiful place, but I didn't know they were that homophobic =/


    It is not an open society. They are very strict with the Islamic laws. You can get arrested for looking or acting gay.
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    Feb 24, 2013 9:02 AM GMT
    I saw some really cool buildings, but after day 1, I pretty much seen what kind of buildings they have and they started to look the same. I got tired of the souks (sp?) as I felt personally violated with many people asking same question and harassing you when you look like you're not from around there. I agree you can get away with doing just about anything as long as you are smart and discreet. But really I found during my stay that everyone is slightly or just obese.
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    Feb 24, 2013 9:58 AM GMT
    I've been there once. It's unbelievable pretty. :p
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    Feb 24, 2013 10:32 AM GMT
    krush said
    Zemy saidHmm...I wanted to do an internship there this summer because it is a beautiful place, but I didn't know they were that homophobic =/


    It is not an open society. They are very strict with the Islamic laws. You can get arrested for looking or acting gay.


    Lol, you have to go pretty far to do that/look like Boy George or Ru Paul, never heard of anything like that happening while I have been here! Having lived in Saudi Arabia and the Middle East for nearly (on and off) 25 years....Dubai is like Vegas comapred to other Islamic states which are far more strict. As before, keep it simple and sensible and have a great time....you need to visit the place to actually believe it, just dont go flaunting it!

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    Feb 24, 2013 10:49 AM GMT
    Dubai is the most overrated city in the world.

    Everything is artificial and man made...there is no history, culture, or anything interesting.

    We have shopping malls in the USA, ski resorts, beaches and all that stuff here in N. America.


    If you want to travel to the middle east my suggestions are ..


    1.) Beirut, Lebanon.

    Hailed as the "Paris of the middle east" and there is so much history, culture, from the crusader times and Phoenicians to the present day. It is very modern and you can go skiing on the cedar mountains and surfing at the mediterranean beach on the same day.


    2.) Istanbul, Turkey

    The only muslim country in the world that is officially secular. It is endlessly fascinating to see the contrasts in Turkey. You will see gay bars and men with long beards, women in bikinis and fully veiled at the same time. They consider themselves to be more "European" than "middle eastern" The nightlife, architecture and scenery is absolutely amazing. Best of all, they haven't joined the EU yet and its cheaper than Greece or Italy.

    Their modern architecture is out of this world.!


    3.) Tel Aviv, Israel.

    Amazing city, great looking guys and very modern and historical at the same time.


    I would choose any one of these 3 cities over Dubai ANY DAY!

    I have been to Dubai over a dozen times in my life and its nothing special. If you live in LA or NYC you already have Rodeo Drive and Fifth Avenue for shopping, you don't need to visit their fancy shopping malls. Who needs an indoor ski resort? Here in LA we have Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead, you can do real skiing here.

    Above all else, Dubai can "pretend" to be the next big thing, but behind all the glitter and glamour its a fucked up ARAB WAHABI FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAMIC country where women are treated like shit, LGBT people are treated even worse, and the entire place is built off the back of slave labor.

    Do yourself a favor and spend your tourist dollars elsewhere. Just my $.02
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    Feb 24, 2013 11:29 AM GMT
    Agree with AFL. I live in Abu Dhabi and have found both cities to be awesome. I've never been questioned about anything at any time, any where, so...
    At the end of the day, it is indeed a Muslim country but life here being gay isn't NYC, as its very underground but with all the male to male hand holding that goes on due to culture, it makes for a very interesting dichotomy. Come and visit and check out the cool buildings if its a stop and you have time.
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    Feb 24, 2013 11:31 AM GMT
    Avoid that region like the plague
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    Feb 24, 2013 11:42 AM GMT
    bighairymuscles saidDubai is the most overrated city in the world.

    Everything is artificial and man made...there is no history, culture, or anything interesting.



    Agree 100% with that
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    Feb 24, 2013 1:05 PM GMT
    Going there later this week in fact. I'll report back on my findings.
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    Feb 24, 2013 2:17 PM GMT
    afl35 saidI have been living here for the past two years and I can say it' a great city, vibrant, busy, friendly people and amazing weather October to April, the rest of the year, hot as hell! ;) If you're looking for pure Middle East culture, this is not the real experience as the city (apart from the old town) is so new but there is a lot to do, great water parks, beaches, water sports, desert safaris, hiking in the mountains, every kind of restaurant you can imagine and some of the biggest shopping malls in the world plus the tallest building! It's not for everyone but most who come here love it. To those who critique it for its atttiude towards gays, women, drink.....you will be totally surprised, show respect, keep things discrete and you are allowed to do pretty much anything you want. Make a fool of yourself and draw attention, yep, you will get into trouble, but not for being gay, just for being a social idiot! If you want more info PM me! Have fun!


    This
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    Feb 24, 2013 3:20 PM GMT
    what's it like walking the streets there? from a distance the buildings look beautiful, but in the end - the quality of the street life is most important. Can you walk from place to place, block size, activity on the street - i.e. public sidewalk is what contribute to a great city. I realize the entire year may not be great to be outside due to the heat.... but when the weather is good what happens?

    I would suggest instead going to Barcelona... beautiful city- architecture, culture, weather, beach, mountains, cuisine, hot men.... need I say more? lol
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    Feb 24, 2013 3:24 PM GMT
    I've had a potentially lucrative consulting opportunity in Dubai kinda hanging in the wings for awhile but I've been a bit torn as I hear great things from some people and terrible things from others. Im not really into the scene or overt displays of public affection... So.. my interpretation of what people are saying is that its only a major issue if your'e a flaming mo' or brazenly spit in the face of the middle eastern culture/belief system. Does this sound accurate?
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    Feb 24, 2013 3:53 PM GMT
    afl35 saidI have been living here for the past two years and I can say it' a great city, vibrant, busy, friendly people and amazing weather October to April, the rest of the year, hot as hell! ;) If you're looking for pure Middle East culture, this is not the real experience as the city (apart from the old town) is so new but there is a lot to do, great water parks, beaches, water sports, desert safaris, hiking in the mountains, every kind of restaurant you can imagine and some of the biggest shopping malls in the world plus the tallest building! It's not for everyone but most who come here love it. To those who critique it for its atttiude towards gays, women, drink.....you will be totally surprised, show respect, keep things discrete and you are allowed to do pretty much anything you want. Make a fool of yourself and draw attention, yep, you will get into trouble, but not for being gay, just for being a social idiot! If you want more info PM me! Have fun!


    Well put...AMEN!
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    Feb 24, 2013 3:56 PM GMT
    jb9104 saidwhat's it like walking the streets there?


    Like walking through a pizza oven (unless it's winter).
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    Feb 24, 2013 5:12 PM GMT
    I used to smoke dubai, but then I bought a bong.
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    Feb 24, 2013 5:21 PM GMT
    krush said
    It is not an open society. They are very strict with the Islamic laws. You can get arrested for looking or acting gay.


    I have a hard time believing this.

    I've interned with several Europeans who have been to Dubai and between those accounts and my own readings Allah has been pretty much replaced by the worship or wealth and pleasure. Dubai wouldn't be such a hotspot for tourists and party seekers if it wasn't looking the other way when it comes to progressive Europeans and gays.

    The only person who ran afoul of the law in Dubai I spoke with did so by taking photos of a mosaic holy image which apparently isn't not allowed. The punishment was pretty much oh well you are an unbeliever anyway so just don't do it again.