Feb 26, 2013 4:59 PM GMT
showme said"The signers of the document are mostly out-of-office Republicans or former top officials...."
Nothing to lose any more. The ones in office are still beholden to the crackpots.
showme said"The signers of the document are mostly out-of-office Republicans or former top officials...."
Nothing to lose any more. The ones in office are still beholden to the crackpots.
ART_DECO saidshowme said"The signers of the document are mostly out-of-office Republicans or former top officials...."
Nothing to lose any more. The ones in office are still beholden to the crackpots.
And the OP still tells us he votes for those who are beholden to those crackpots. And actually holds quite a few crackpot views himself.
freedomisntfree saidART_DECO saidshowme said"The signers of the document are mostly out-of-office Republicans or former top officials...."
Nothing to lose any more. The ones in office are still beholden to the crackpots.
And the OP still tells us he votes for those who are beholden to those crackpots. And actually holds quite a few crackpot views himself.
It's a start, is it not?
showme saidfreedomisntfree saidART_DECO saidshowme said"The signers of the document are mostly out-of-office Republicans or former top officials...."
Nothing to lose any more. The ones in office are still beholden to the crackpots.
And the OP still tells us he votes for those who are beholden to those crackpots. And actually holds quite a few crackpot views himself.
It's a start, is it not?
It's a start.
Now if the ones who signed the brief would just go out and kick some ass on this issue, maybe we'd get somewhere.
freedomisntfree saidshowme saidfreedomisntfree saidART_DECO saidshowme said"The signers of the document are mostly out-of-office Republicans or former top officials...."
Nothing to lose any more. The ones in office are still beholden to the crackpots.
And the OP still tells us he votes for those who are beholden to those crackpots. And actually holds quite a few crackpot views himself.
It's a start, is it not?
It's a start.
Now if the ones who signed the brief would just go out and kick some ass on this issue, maybe we'd get somewhere.
And my reason for going to CPAC.
ART_DECO saidfreedomisntfree saidshowme saidfreedomisntfree saidART_DECO saidshowme said"The signers of the document are mostly out-of-office Republicans or former top officials...."
Nothing to lose any more. The ones in office are still beholden to the crackpots.
And the OP still tells us he votes for those who are beholden to those crackpots. And actually holds quite a few crackpot views himself.
It's a start, is it not?
It's a start.
Now if the ones who signed the brief would just go out and kick some ass on this issue, maybe we'd get somewhere.
And my reason for going to CPAC.
For what reason? To be brainwashed into buying into all the anti-gay rhetoric, as in the past? You actually think it'll be any different than in the previous conventions?
Do you sit there quietly while gays are bashed? Then start cheering for unregulated gun access for everyone, everywhere, with few exceptions? And applaud for no taxes on the rich and corporations (which you are neither), while the Middle Class is left to bear the tax burden (which you actually are)?
Yeah, by all means go to CPAC, so your true radical Right Wing colors can be seen. Up corporations, down citizens! Tax the working class, exempt the wealthy class!
And when you're finished being a cheerleader for billionaires whose ranks you'll never join, what will you do then? Try to scrape together enough money to buy another vintage Pontiac, while they're riding around in Rolls Royce limousines, and cruising on their yachts at your expense?
Your blind dedication to the ultra-rich amazes me. I hope you get some kind of commission for your loyalty. But somehow I would rate you as being just a stupid sucker. Sorry, but dedicating yourself to making others rich at your expense isn't exactly how I would define a savy person.
showme saidGeezer fight!!!
freedomisntfree saidshowme saidGeezer fight!!!
And for what ... about the 1000th time? Doesn't work with me.
And no, he's absolutely nuts. If all they (CPAC) saw where 'Bobs" I wouldn't blame them for doing some hating. NOT the way to affect change.
ART_DECO saidfreedomisntfree saidshowme saidGeezer fight!!!
And for what ... about the 1000th time? Doesn't work with me.
And no, he's absolutely nuts. If all they (CPAC) saw where 'Bobs" I wouldn't blame them for doing some hating. NOT the way to affect change.
When pushed against the wall, with nothing to justify your defense of anti-gay CPAC policies, you call me "nuts". A classic ad hominem argument.
Or is my fault that I mentioned your interest in Pontiac cars, which was your previous passion, but now you've switched to old Chevys? Yes, that changes the debate considerably. Let's have a badge-based rationale for our political positions.
No, sorry, you yourself introduced your praise of CPAC, a political group with a publicly-avowed virulent anti-gay policy. You wanna attend that convention, and praise it, fine. But don't imagine it makes you exempt from valid criticism here, on a gay site.
And calling me nuts doesn't change a single fact. You're resorting to the low tactics of southbeach1500 when you do that. Do reconsider.
I like to chat with you about old cars, an interest of my own. But don't think your alliance with anti-gay political organizations gets you a free pass as a result.
freedomisntfree said
Anyway, do me a GREAT big favor .... maybe its best that you just block me again.
ART_DECO saidfreedomisntfree said
Anyway, do me a GREAT big favor .... maybe its best that you just block me again.
I wouldn't give you the pleasure. Anti-gay hatred like yours needs a counterpoint here.
freedomisntfree saidART_DECO saidfreedomisntfree said
Anyway, do me a GREAT big favor .... maybe its best that you just block me again.
I wouldn't give you the pleasure. Anti-gay hatred like yours needs a counterpoint here.
Oh really? Know what ..... just FUCK YOU. I don't have time to waste on a moronic hate filled asshole other than just a great big FUCK YOU.
Edit: Thanks for fixing the "hate" but I caught it before you did.
ART_DECO saidfreedomisntfree saidART_DECO saidfreedomisntfree said
Anyway, do me a GREAT big favor .... maybe its best that you just block me again.
I wouldn't give you the pleasure. Anti-gay hatred like yours needs a counterpoint here.
Oh really? Know what ..... just FUCK YOU. I don't have time to waste on a moronic hate filled asshole other than just a great big FUCK YOU.
Edit: Thanks for fixing the "hate" but I caught it before you did.
No, this time I'm not gonna block you. I'm not gonna let you slide with your cheerful endorsements of anti-gay hate groups. Sorry, I'm gonna call you on them. Nothing in the way of personal attacks on you, I kinda like a guy who has a passion for old cars like I do, just pointing out the truth.
Now if you wanna distance yourself from these homophobic groups, all fine & dandy. But when you affiliate yourself with anti-gay hate groups, I'm gonna throw their hateful words in your face. Fair enough?
I mean, you go out of your way to tell us how you endorse them, so isn't it fair play to publish their anti-gay agendas and expose them for what they are? And if you aren't part of their gay bigotry, perhaps you need to step away from them. There's an old saying, that you're known by the company you keep. Wouldn't you agree?
freedomisntfree said
TL RD
bye
ART_DECO saidfreedomisntfree said
TL RD
bye
I'm guessing you meant TL;DR
Well, it's painful for you to read when you're losing the battle. A good time to surrender the field.
freedomisntfree said
OK one more then I really need leave. I just really do not care all that much. Its not in my top 20 list of concerns. You're all gay all day, I'm not. I have many many other interests other than sexual preference or whatever the PC correct term is these days. Sorry, you do not run my life or determine my priorities.
ART_DECO saidfreedomisntfree said
OK one more then I really need leave. I just really do not care all that much. Its not in my top 20 list of concerns. You're all gay all day, I'm not. I have many many other interests other than sexual preference or whatever the PC correct term is these days. Sorry, you do not run my life or determine my priorities.
Of course I don't. Nor do you mine. Good gawd, do you think I wanna run your life? Really?
But I do want what's best for my gay brothers, and my lesbian sisters. Do you? Or do you just want what's best for you personally?
That may be the fundamental difference between us. Community welfare, versus selfish personal welfare, to the exclusion of others.
Well I fall on the community welfare side. Where do you fall? I think I already know, but you can speak for yourself.