Apple Among 60 Companies to File Statement with U.S. Supreme Court Backing Gay Marriage

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    Feb 27, 2013 6:16 AM GMT
    Bloomberg reports that Apple is among 60 companies that have signed on to a filing that will be presented to the Supreme Court backing gay marriage in the United States. The court is currently weighing the constitutionality of California's Proposition 8, in which voters barred gay marriage in 2008. Apple had publicly opposed Proposition 8 at the time.

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    The publicly traded companies backing gay marriage include, Facebook, Intel, Abercrombie & Fitch Co. (ANF), Alcoa Inc. (AA), American International Group Inc. (AIG), Becton Dickinson & Co., EBay Inc. (EBAY), Marsh & McLennan Cos. (MMC), NCR Corp. (NCR), Nike Inc. (NKE), Oracle Corp. (ORCL), Office Depot Inc. (ODP), Panasonic Corp. (6752), Qualcomm Inc. (QCOM), Sun Life Financial Inc., Xerox Corp. (XRX), Zynga Inc. (ZNGA), Barnes & Noble Inc. and Caesars Entertainment Corp.
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    Feb 27, 2013 7:27 AM GMT
    This is pretty awesome news for us considering 20 years ago most of these companies if they existed at the time probably would not have supported us. We have come a very long way despite still not coming far enough just yet. The tides are turning though quickly in our favor. It is uplifting news to say the least.

    Thanks for bringing that over.
  • Buddha

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    Feb 27, 2013 12:47 PM GMT
    I would expect Tim Cook to support gay marriage icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 27, 2013 12:51 PM GMT
    Searching for the link. Where is the comprehensive list? Would like to know more...
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    Feb 27, 2013 12:53 PM GMT
    Wow, special interest groups actually supporting same sex marriage. Nice.
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    Feb 27, 2013 1:06 PM GMT
    Buddha saidI would expect Tim Cook to support gay marriage icon_lol.gif

    Apple also donated money to defeat Prop 8 when Steve Jobs was still in charge, and released a company public statement against it during the campaign. Apple has been gay-supportive for a long time.
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    Feb 27, 2013 1:11 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    Buddha saidI would expect Tim Cook to support gay marriage icon_lol.gif

    Apple also donated money to defeat Prop 8 when Steve Jobs was still in charge, and released a company public statement against it during the campaign. Apple has been gay-supportive for a long time.


    Would be stupid of them not to be, considering that 80% of the gay guys are hoarding Apple-produts icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 27, 2013 1:12 PM GMT
    anilliniguy saidSearching for the link. Where is the comprehensive list? Would like to know more...

    Here's one link:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-26/apple-joins-morgan-stanley-to-back-gay-marriage-at-supreme-court.html

    The publicly traded companies backing gay marriage [in addition to Apple] include Abercrombie & Fitch Co. (ANF), Alcoa Inc. (AA), American International Group Inc. (AIG), Becton Dickinson & Co., EBay Inc. (EBAY), Marsh & McLennan Cos. (MMC), NCR Corp. (NCR), Nike Inc. (NKE), Oracle Corp. (ORCL), Office Depot Inc. (ODP), Panasonic Corp. (6752), Qualcomm Inc. (QCOM), Sun Life Financial Inc., Xerox Corp. (XRX), Zynga Inc. (ZNGA), Barnes & Noble Inc. and Caesars Entertainment Corp.

    A larger group of companies -- more than 200, including Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS) -- is also poised to side with gay- rights advocates in a second Supreme Court case, involving a federal law that defines marriage as a heterosexual union. Under that law, known as the Defense of Marriage Act, legally married gay couples can’t claim the federal tax breaks and other benefits available to opposite-sex spouses.

    The companies in that case are part of a collection of more than 250 employers, including cities, counties and law firms.
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    Feb 27, 2013 1:13 PM GMT
    Another news story:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/wave-of-political-business-military-groups-to-urge-supreme-court-to-support-gay-marriage/2013/02/26/3e324d62-8076-11e2-a671-0307392de8de_story.html
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    Feb 27, 2013 1:21 PM GMT
    Buddha said
    ART_DECO said
    Buddha saidI would expect Tim Cook to support gay marriage icon_lol.gif

    Apple also donated money to defeat Prop 8 when Steve Jobs was still in charge, and released a company public statement against it during the campaign. Apple has been gay-supportive for a long time.

    Would be stupid of them not to be, considering that 80% of the gay guys are hoarding Apple-produts icon_lol.gif

    It's hard to resist such strong industrial design & fashion.
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    Feb 27, 2013 2:05 PM GMT
    Fightin' for those gay dollars ;-) It's good business. icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 27, 2013 3:55 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    Buddha said
    ART_DECO said
    Buddha saidI would expect Tim Cook to support gay marriage icon_lol.gif

    Apple also donated money to defeat Prop 8 when Steve Jobs was still in charge, and released a company public statement against it during the campaign. Apple has been gay-supportive for a long time.

    Would be stupid of them not to be, considering that 80% of the gay guys are hoarding Apple-produts icon_lol.gif

    It's hard to resist such strong industrial design & fashion.


    Haha yeah, I got an iPhone myself icon_biggrin.gif apart from some anomalies, especially after having studied Human-Computer Interfaces, I realized how amazing the iPhone is designed.
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    Feb 27, 2013 4:01 PM GMT
    This is why I have a MacBookPro. I absolutely love it!
  • PolaroidSwing...

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    Feb 27, 2013 7:43 PM GMT
    Well on some level I can appreciate the gesture; the idea of corporations dabbling in politics still makes me uncomfortable.
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    Feb 27, 2013 7:50 PM GMT
    Why Apple has been highlighted in the heading? Fan boy?
    I am still not buying Apple products.
  • Medjai

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    Feb 27, 2013 7:51 PM GMT
    Considering this actually has no legal bearing, it seems more like a publicity stunt to me...
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    Feb 27, 2013 8:23 PM GMT
    Medjai saidConsidering this actually has no legal bearing, it seems more like a publicity stunt to me...



    WikipediaCorporate personhood is the legal concept that a corporation may sue and be sued in court in the same way as natural persons or unincorporated associations of persons. This doctrine in turn forms the basis for legal recognition that corporations, as groups of people, may hold and exercise certain rights under the common law and the U.S. Constitution.


    Corporations and their opinions do carry political weight. Plus it is lobby groups/special interest organizations that feed the pockets of politicians. So yes, they can have great deal of influence.
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    Feb 27, 2013 10:18 PM GMT
    PolaroidSwinger saidWell on some level I can appreciate the gesture; the idea of corporations dabbling in politics still makes me uncomfortable.


    Corporations get pretty involved with either group(gay or anti-gay) politically and economically. You might as well want them on your side.
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    Feb 27, 2013 10:23 PM GMT
    Medjai saidConsidering this actually has no legal bearing, it seems more like a publicity stunt to me...


    Big companies these days are all about the diversity. They really mean it. And they hate anti-SSM legislation because it impairs their ability to treat equal classes of employees equally. That's one of the reasons that the DOMA brief my firm did - referenced in the other thread - got so many big companies to sign on.
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    Feb 27, 2013 10:28 PM GMT
    TerraFirma saidFightin' for those gay dollars ;-) It's good business. icon_smile.gif

    Exactly! The gay community is a cash cow for business. Often you have 2 working people making good incomes and no one to spend their money on. These companies are making good financial decision, not just supporting the idea of equal rights.

    I'm more impressed with companies like NCR and Alcoa who don't cater directly to the gay community like Apple and A&F do. Their support is a no brainer but some of the others, now that's impressive stuff.
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    Feb 27, 2013 10:35 PM GMT
    Many (but not all) of these corporations wouldn't have agreed to submit amici curiaea briefs if they knew they were alone. There's safety in numbers, so everyone else is jumping on the band wagon. Many of them are not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, but out of self-interest. Nevertheless, this is certainly a very progressive step in the right direction. While amici curiae do not have party or intervenor status, they can, in some instances, affect the outcome of a case, particularly if the issue before the court is one of first impression.
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    Feb 27, 2013 11:08 PM GMT
    Shagglot saidWhy Apple has been highlighted in the heading? Fan boy?
    I am still not buying Apple products.

    Possibly because, by some business & financial standards, Apple is currently the largest corporation in the known universe. Therefore whatever Apple does is newsworthy. And why complain, if Apple coming onboard gets this statement backing gay marriage more positive publicity & exposure, and hopefully more clout before the US Supreme Court?
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    Feb 27, 2013 11:22 PM GMT
    Apple has been one of the strongest supporters of gay rights and domestic partner benefits ever. And it goes back decades, to a time when they were very much alone in that stance.

    A dramatic example: In the 90s Apple wanted to expand its presence in the Austin, Texas area. Austin was already one of their main tech support centers (phone, online, etc.). It was a good fit between Apple's corporate policies supporting gay employees and Austin's corresponding outlook and laws. When Apple wanted to expand and add a second campus they looked nearby, to the Round Rock area just north of Austin. Round Rock is in Williamson County. Williamson County's government and business leaders were STRONGLY anti-gay and homophobic. Like all counties courting new growth and development, they offered tax abatements and other incentives to any large company looking to build new facilities there. Negotiations with Apple to build a Williamson County facility went well until the not-so-good folks of said county got wind of Apple's policy of full benefits for gay domestic partners. Next thing Apple knew, all of the incentives were withdrawn and Apple was told they were not welcome in Williamson County. Apple's reaction was swift and to the point: incentives or not, they had no intention of locating a new facility in an area hostile to gays. They issued a statement to that effect, subtly chastising the people of Williamson County for being such closed-minded bigots. Now you might say Apple withdrew because the incentives were withdrawn, and that would be partially true. But Apple made a very strong statement on gay rights along with the decision.

    Stop berating the good guys and saying such stupidity as, "they wouldn't have done it without other companies joining in." Some of you have to find some fault in anything positive. This time, you are dead wrong.
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    Feb 27, 2013 11:40 PM GMT
    DOMINUS saidMany (but not all) of these corporations wouldn't have agreed to submit amici curiaea briefs if they knew they were alone. There's safety in numbers, so everyone else is jumping on the band wagon. Many of them are not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, but out of self-interest. Nevertheless, this is certainly a very progressive step in the right direction. While amici curiae do not have party or intervenor status, they can, in some instances, affect the outcome of a case, particularly if the issue before the court is one of first impression.



    So what? No matter what progress we make towards equality there will always be people like you 'pointing out' that, it is either too late or not good enough or it just didn't come from your heart.
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    Feb 27, 2013 11:51 PM GMT
    I thought the eBay CEO was against gay marriage? I forgot her name