Coy Mathis, 6-Year-Old Transgender Girl, wins the right to use girls' restroom In Colorado School District

  • metta

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    Feb 28, 2013 2:54 AM GMT
    UPDATE:


    Transgender first-grader wins the right to use girls' restroom

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/us/colorado-transgender-girl-school/index.html?sr=fb062413transgenderrightsrestroom1230p






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    Coy Mathis, 6-Year-Old Transgender Girl, Barred From Using Girls' Restroom In Colorado School District


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/27/coy-mathis-transgender-girl-colorado-school-district_n_2773609.html

    Petition:

    http://www.change.org/petitions/our-transgender-daughter-is-just-another-girl-tell-her-school-to-stop-discriminating


    Coy Mathis: A family’s journey to support, understand their transgender child

    Today we present a more personal story about Coy, and her family’s journey to understand and support her identity.

    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/02/coy-mathis-a-familys-journey-to-support-understand-their-transgender-child/


    OUR TRANSGENDER DAUGHTER IS JUST ANOTHER GIRL: TELL HER SCHOOL TO STOP DISCRIMINATING

    http://www.glaad.org/coymathis

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    Feb 28, 2013 2:11 PM GMT
    As Barkley says, that's turrrrrrrrrible.
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    Feb 28, 2013 2:18 PM GMT
    Saw this, hopefully they reverse their decision. She is six years old and should feel comfortable as she is and not confined too gender roles
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Feb 28, 2013 3:08 PM GMT
    I personally find this issue perplexing and complicated on a variety of levels. I can see both sides. It's mostly just a sad story because this poor child was feeling the heartbreak, confusion, and fear of being transgender at an early age. That being said, this child was born a boy and has a penis -- he hasn't had a sex change -- so technically (or biologically) he is a boy. This makes the issue understandably difficult for the child, his/her parents, other parents at the school, and the school officials. It's easy to say that the school can make an example here and help educate the other kids about transgender, however this is a lot to process for 6 year olds. I'm kind of torn on what is the right thing to do here.
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    Feb 28, 2013 3:09 PM GMT
    Didn't Coy used to live in Florida?
  • WhoDey

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    Feb 28, 2013 3:19 PM GMT
    Why the legal action? Use the staff or nurses restroom and be on your way...
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    Feb 28, 2013 3:21 PM GMT
    I agree with school. First he is a boy, until he has female genitalia stay away from the bathroom. Also the family is kinda off, a 18 month does not know if they are transgender. And why does a 4 year old know about surgery? Honestly the child needs to see a Psychologist, this is too young. What happens if the child has the surgery then grows up and realizes that he really was a boy all along.

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    Feb 28, 2013 3:25 PM GMT
    RadRTT saidHonestly the child needs to see a Psychologist, this is too young. What happens if the child has the surgery then grows up and realizes that he really was a boy all along.



    This was sort of my first reaction as well. This isn't a teenager, it's a 6 year old. At first, this story seemed so strange --- with names in it like "Coy" and their attorney's name is "Kelly Dude" --- that I almost thought it was from "The Onion".
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    Feb 28, 2013 3:26 PM GMT
    6 Year's Old and Transgender? icon_eek.gif

    I agree with the school as well. The little girls should not be subjected to sharing a bathroom with a penis. If it is that big a deal then let the kid use the faculty restroom.
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    Feb 28, 2013 3:28 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis was sort of my first reaction as well. This isn't a teenager, it's a 6 year old. At first, this story seemed so strange --- with names in it like "Coy" and their attorney's name is "Kelly Dude" --- that I almost thought it was from "The Onion".
    Also at such a young age, they let their kids dye their hair bold colors. When I read it, I thought to myself, this is a family who just wants to be out there for their "let our kids do what they want" parenting.

    Also they are receiving more criticism than support.
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    Feb 28, 2013 3:29 PM GMT
    msuNtx saidI agree with the school as well. The little girls should not be subjected to sharing a bathroom with a penis. If it is that big a deal then let the kid use the faculty restroom.
    They said he could use the nurses office. And it seems the school is going beyond for them by referring to the boy as a girl. The family wants everything and does not want to make a compromise.
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    Feb 28, 2013 3:32 PM GMT
    People make me mad. Our legal system is soooo wracked outta shape because of the civil courts :/ due to stupid cases like THESE.
  • Hotgymguy22

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    Feb 28, 2013 3:37 PM GMT
    I'm perplexed at how a someone that young can be cognizant enough to know that he identifies as a she. It's not like he just decided to be a girl either, so how early did he know? 5 years old? 4? 3? At some point I'd think his parents have something to do with this. I've heard of parents raising boys as girls and raising girls as boys because the child they had was not the gender they wanted. I'm not saying that is the case here, but without knowing more information it's hard to form a well-informed opinion on this.

    But I really don't see why the school should be sued. Everyone wants to sue in this litigious society of ours. The school offered Coy to be able to use the boys restroom, the staff restroom, or the one in the nurse's office. That sounds reasonable to me. If Coy has male genetalia, then I think the school was right to not allow Coy in the female restroom. That opens up a whole other can of worms and opens the school up for other lawsuits.
  • The_Guruburu

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    Feb 28, 2013 3:52 PM GMT
    Plenty of trans folk know about their gender identity at a very young age, just like sexual orientation and many other aspects of identity. Around 3–7 is not uncommon, actually. Speaking from experience, I knew since I was about 3.
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    Feb 28, 2013 3:53 PM GMT
    The_Guruburu saidPlenty of trans folk know about their gender identity at a very young age, just like sexual orientation and many other aspects of identity. Around 3–7 is not uncommon, actually. Speaking from experience, I knew since I was about 3.
    I am sorry. I can understand learning at a young age but no one knows at 3. That is bullshit.
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    Feb 28, 2013 3:54 PM GMT
    RadRTT said
    The_Guruburu saidPlenty of trans folk know about their gender identity at a very young age, just like sexual orientation and many other aspects of identity. Around 3–7 is not uncommon, actually. Speaking from experience, I knew since I was about 3.
    I am sorry. I can understand learning at a young age but no one knows at 3. That is bullshit.


    I can't even remember what I was doing at 3. Probably breaking stuff but I highly doubt anyone knows they are gay or transgender that young.
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    Feb 28, 2013 4:09 PM GMT
    Considering girls go in closed stalls I don't see how this would be an issue. Unless the child is acting like a regular 6-year old and whipping out her boy junk in the ladies room.
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    Feb 28, 2013 4:20 PM GMT
    RadRTT said
    The_Guruburu saidPlenty of trans folk know about their gender identity at a very young age, just like sexual orientation and many other aspects of identity. Around 3–7 is not uncommon, actually. Speaking from experience, I knew since I was about 3.
    I am sorry. I can understand learning at a young age but no one knows at 3. That is bullshit.


    Oh yeah, duh, you're totally right! Obviously you know my personal history better than I do.icon_redface.gif. I'm continually amazed by the wisdom in these forums.
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    Feb 28, 2013 4:32 PM GMT
    The parents at least need counciling and should be investigated for child abuse. The kid needs pychological help. I've worked with troubled kids. Perhaps the kid was abused by a male as an infant and now harbors resentment of males. The kid's comment about hairy chests and beards is a key to this issue.
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    Feb 28, 2013 4:40 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidThe parents at least need counciling and should be investigated for child abuse. The kid needs pychological help. I've worked with troubled kids. Perhaps the kid was abused by a male as an infant and now harbors resentment of males. The kid's comment about hairy chests and beards is a key to this issue.


    I hear molestation gives kids The Gay. Those parents better look into conversion therapy, too, while they're at it. icon_twisted.gif
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    Feb 28, 2013 4:44 PM GMT
    The child was clinically diagnosed as transgener tho by a licensed psychologist.... so I feel the school should accomopdate Coy and "her" request to use the girl's bathroom. ... Coy sees herself as a girl and wants to be treated as a girl and identifies as a girl..... and I think it's great that Coy's family is embracing Coy for the way she is, because they want the best for her.

    I know she's 6, but I feel the diagnosis by a professional makes this real and not just some confused kid wanting to use the little girl's room.

    Go COY!!!! werq it girl

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    Feb 28, 2013 4:47 PM GMT
    Great care needs to be taken when dealing with children who identify as transgender. Most children outgrow it, so the parents could cause just as many problems by labeling their child as transgender as they could by labeling their child with their physical gender.
  • great_scott

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    Feb 28, 2013 4:49 PM GMT
    The school made an appropriate decision. It wouldn't be fair to the other girls. If that's how this family wants to raise their kid, that's their right, but they can't force that on everyone else.
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    Feb 28, 2013 4:50 PM GMT
    I just feel that by not letting her use the girls room you are singling her out as different. Yes she doesn't have to use the boys public bathroom but having to goto the office singles her out as special and different and kids especially at 6 years old can be cruel. I see both sides of the argument, but not letting her go tells that child who she is wrong there should be no compromise in this situation but I can understand the other side too. I just feel for the kid being six
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    Feb 28, 2013 5:09 PM GMT
    Let children just be children - if they want to identify as another gender, just let them! It doesn't really matter unless environmental factors, including parents, want to place gender socializing pressures on them. Up until puberty, it really shouldn't matter. The general protocol for young children with gender dysphoria is to allow them to identify however they want and see where it goes. If they still feel like they are a gender other than what is their biological sex, hormone therapy can delay puberty while they mature neurologically so they can make the best decision.

    And why are people here opining so strongly without any real professional experience or knowledge about these issues?