Suspicious- Republicans on gay marriage

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    Mar 01, 2013 2:58 AM GMT
    Doesnt anyone want to question why all of a sudden, in 2013, Republicans are about- facing on gay marriage? They are not even putting up a fight anymore, WTF, im just a bit suspicious in their motive, a leopard never changes its spots, i would rather see the republicans support the federal employment non discrimination act to include lgbt. ENDA affects all lgbt's, we all work and need to be free from workplace discrimination, but not all of us lgbt's are gonna get married. So why has lgbt leadership put so much on gay marriage vs our employment protections? Isnt this putting the cart before the horse? While republicans sign on to gay marriage, will they then be ok with ENDA? Im still not convinced on the "sincerity" of the right, who now "support" us.
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    Mar 01, 2013 4:41 AM GMT
    I agree. Given their long anti-gay history, this is likely a ruse.

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    Mar 01, 2013 6:27 PM GMT
    They're going where they think the votes are. It has nothing to do with any real conviction on their part, or change of heart, except in isolated cases. They'd dump us in a second if they thought the could get away with it.

    As long as the GOP is in thrall to the religious right and the reactionary Teabaggers, nothing will change below the surface.
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    Mar 01, 2013 9:57 PM GMT
    tazzari saidThey're going where they think the votes are. It has nothing to do with any real conviction on their part, or change of heart, except in isolated cases. They'd dump us in a second if they thought the could get away with it.

    As long as the GOP is in thrall to the religious right and the reactionary Teabaggers, nothing will change below the surface.



    Maybe true, they are still very bitter at losing the election, when now they are rethinking how to win back the Presidency in 2016, court the latinos (who voted BO) and immigration, court the gays (who voted BO) and gay marriage, these republicans are sneaky backstabbers, im sure your right, they would sell their own mother if they knew it could help them. So the lgbt community needs to take caution, i for one, do not believe they really care about us, getting the gay and latino vote just might be their evil motive

    Question is, is the lgbt voter going to fall for it?
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    Mar 02, 2013 12:02 AM GMT
    If we achieve marriage equality in the US this year, I care not about the Reps' motives.
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    Mar 02, 2013 12:02 AM GMT
    tazzari saidThey're going where they think the votes are. It has nothing to do with any real conviction on their part, or change of heart, except in isolated cases. They'd dump us in a second if they thought the could get away with it.

    As long as the GOP is in thrall to the religious right and the reactionary Teabaggers, nothing will change below the surface.

    I think any political party would. It's the nature of the game, folks. Parties go where the votes are.
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    Mar 02, 2013 12:04 AM GMT
    scruffLA saidQuestion is, is the lgbt voter going to fall for it?
    A bit off topic but I keep wondering about that gay Republican guy running for mayor of LA. I doubt he has any chance of actually winning, I really wonder how many in his own party will actually vote for him on election day.
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    Mar 02, 2013 12:06 AM GMT
    Not all Republicans.

    The optimist sees more allies.
    The cynic sees some Republicans coming out in support of same-sex marriage in the 11th hour as a case of politicians just trying to be seen on the right side of history.
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    Mar 02, 2013 12:28 AM GMT
    Macaque saidNot all Republicans.

    The optimist sees more allies.

    The cynic sees some Republicans coming out in support of same-sex marriage in the 11th hour as a case of politicians just trying to be seen on the right side of history.

    Agreed, but maybe not the cynic, instead the realist. Viewing politicians who don't lead or inspire on evolving social questions, but who play catch-up on issues that others have spearheaded.

    I'd be more impressed with "Me first!" politicians regarding gay rights, than "Me, too!" politicians who jump onboard after the battles have been fought and are being won. Especially when they were the passionate opposition until they saw the tide turning against them.

    "I was vehemently against gay civil rights for years, and strongly campaigned against it, but now that I'm losing that argument at the ballot box and in the court of public opinion, count me in!"

    When there are politicians who got it right all along, why should I now embrace politicians who got it wrong for so long? I think I have better choices, those who have better lifetime tract records on gay civil rights.
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    Mar 02, 2013 12:39 AM GMT
    I was a little surprised when Meg Whitman announced her support for gay marriage. After her $44 million dollar bomb in 2010 I kind of figured she would never run for public office again so I'm not really sure why she's announced this.