was jesus gay?

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    Oct 08, 2008 6:57 PM GMT
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    Oct 08, 2008 7:10 PM GMT
    Considering the evidence we have for Jesus' life, the gospels and apocrypha, we can't say. But that doesn't mean we can't jerk off thinking about it.
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    Oct 08, 2008 7:38 PM GMT
    While a man may have existed he is a majority the fictional creation of the church and the church should retain control over it's own creation...
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    Oct 08, 2008 7:41 PM GMT
    In reality it is a futile question since the existence of said person is dubious at best.

    That said it is a very useful question to get the religious riled up, if that is your goal..icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 08, 2008 9:11 PM GMT
    Well, they do make a point to show off his 6 pack and musculature, which is mostly a gay trait. Also, many angles and pictures of Jesus are pretty sexy (except the hippy hair), lighted just right - his face and jaw with an innocent and inviting look on his face. Something I am sure all the closeted priests and sex starved nuns had something to with, or at least enjoyed in secret. A passing nun or friar glancing up at a ripped christ hanging on the cross, barely clothed, I am sure invited in some excitement in their repetitive routines of chanting, fasting and praying.
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    Oct 08, 2008 9:27 PM GMT
    Jesus Christ gay? No way! He was more of a man than anyone else including myself.
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    Oct 08, 2008 9:56 PM GMT
    I sure hope so, he had great Cher hairicon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 08, 2008 10:00 PM GMT
    I think this could possibly be the dumbest question ever asked, sorry.
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    Oct 08, 2008 10:51 PM GMT
    He had a boyfriend....the beloved disciple....the one who was lying on Jesus' breast and whom Peter asked to get the inside scoop...

    John 13

    21. When Jesus had thus said, he was troubled in spirit, and testified, and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.

    22. Then the disciples looked one on another, doubting of whom he spake.

    23. Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.

    24. Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake.

    25. He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?

    26. Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.

    Check out:

    The Man Jesus Loved: Homoerotic Narratives from the New Testament
    by Theodore W., Jr. Jennings


    A reviewer gives this good description:

    "The Man Jesus Loved" clears away centuries of traditional Christian teaching to reexamine Jesus's positions and roles with regard to personal relationships and family values and how these relate to the Kingdom of Heaven.
    Members of the Christian Right in the USA are frequently known to state that biological family trumps everything, that marriage can only be between an adult man and an adult woman, that active homosexuals are automatically condemned to burn in the flames of hell, and that women and children should be subordinate to men. Centuries of the teachings of St. Paul, many early Church Fathers, of Church Councils, of Orthodox Jewish (and Islamic) teachings, and Papal directives are cited to support these views.

    The author, Theodore W. Jennings, Jr., Ph.D. is a professor of biblical and constructive theology at Chicago Theological Seminary and is a United Methodist clergyman. He is not a crank but a trained professional willing to take another look at the Jesus story before the Church became a part of the respectable Establishment of the Roman Empire. It turns out that all the above mentioned teachings of members of the Christian Right are challenged in the Gospels (and in supporting documents like the Gospel of Thomas).

    Jennings starts out by examining the title character's role in the Gospel of St. John [John 13, 18-21]. It turns out that there is substantial similarity between the relationship between Jesus and the Beloved Disciple and that between a lover and a beloved in a Hellenistic gymnasium; nowadays we would say they were boyfriends or lovers. Jennings reviews various attempts to identify the Beloved Disciple and goes into the stories of the nude youth fleeing at the arrest of Jesus, of Lazarus, of the youth at the tomb of Jesus, and of the usage of the words eros vs. philia vs. agape (different Koine Greek words for love) in the text. Furthermore, there is no indication Jesus and the Beloved Disciple would not have consummated the relationship. Jennings makes a case that traditional commentators prefer to ignore or sublimate.

    Jennings moves on to show how the story of the Centurion's lad (pais,doulos) [Matthew 8:5-13] might reasonably be interpreted as Jesus being happy to help a sick lover in a same-sex relationship and on Jesus's compassion for eunichs.

    The final section gathers the evidence that Jesus wanted to convert traditional family values to a situation where everyone cares about everyone else and all have a direct connection to God. My example: Jesus would be angry at the present situation where wealthy families push their children to go to the best schools and succeed-or-else while allowing poor children to go to schools with leaky roofs and no books and have no health care. Jesus supported and included women on a largely equal basis with men. Jesus wanted people to break their dependence on family and the accumulation of wealth and power and instead to treat each other well and to do good. This includes treating women as equals, being accepting of various sexual orientations, and not condemning sex itself. Traditional morality is mostly focused on preserving property rights and amassing wealth; the original position of the Jesus movement was different.