CLA : Conjugated Linoleic Acid

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    Oct 08, 2008 11:16 PM GMT
    So I recently read this article which said something about CLA being able to help build muscle and burn fat, especially around the midsection. I looked more into it and read that CLA is actually not a new discovery and that its been around for a while, and that it is a very effective supplement for working out, however not all the things stated about it are completely true.

    I purchased some generic GNC Pro Performance brand CLA, just to test it out and have been taking it 1 - 3 times daily as directed. However, I just began taking it and expecting to reap some sort of benefit from it.

    Does anyone else know about or heard about CLA?? If you have, waht does it do and can i expect great things??
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    Oct 09, 2008 2:19 AM GMT
    I like it and use it daily about 2 times. 1...in the morning and....1 at night. A chemist friend told me it will work better if taken with some kind of fish oil...salmon is what I use. I take it with food and it works well. It will help keep your muscle and burn fat too. You, however, look good as is.....If your needing to increase muscularity you may want to increase your protein intake and add some ZMA.....All this works well together...
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    Oct 09, 2008 2:24 AM GMT
    Well....that picture was taken a few months back. I have slight belly fat, and it is very much in the way of true definition in my abs. I really need to find a way to lean up in that general area and when I heard about CLA, I figured Id take a hit at it. But Im glad to hear that someone else uses it. Tell me, how does the fish oil affect it? AND, what is ZMA??
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    Oct 25, 2009 10:14 PM GMT
    I have used CLA for two months and have seen a slight difference. Make sure it is CLA from safflower oil. Some make it from sunflower oil which is cheaper and nowhere near as effective.
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    Oct 25, 2009 10:20 PM GMT
    I've been using CLA for atleast 2 years now after every meal i eat. It helped lose a lot of weight and I like it a lot.
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    Oct 25, 2009 10:22 PM GMT
    Hey guys, I'm generally skeptical about these sorts of things. There's a lot of hocus pocus and pseudo science out there. I'm interested in the claims of CLA, do you folks know of any peer-reviewed scientific articles or reliable sources for these sorts of claims? Thanks!
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    Oct 25, 2009 10:53 PM GMT
    This forum thread caught my attention, so I started doing some reading. I thought I would share what I've found so far:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjugated_linoleic_acid

    From the article:
    Some studies of CLA in human diets show that it may reduce body fat,[30] especially abdominal fat. A maximum reduction in body fat was achieved with a daily dose of 3.4g.[31] However, some experts do not recommend taking CLA supplements. CLA supplements contain high levels of the t10,c12 CLA isomer, which has been linked to multiple side effects.[32] Supplementation with this form of CLA has been shown to increase C-reactive protein levels, possibly to induce oxidative stress,[33] to reduce insulin sensitivity, and to increase lipid peroxidation.[34] In contrast, the cis-9, trans-11 CLA isomer, the primary form of CLA found naturally in beef and dairy products, has been shown to protect cells from oxidative damage by increasing glutathione levels without inducing lipid peroxidation

    http://thyroid.about.com/cs/dietweightloss/a/cla.htm

    From the article:
    Dr. Michael Pariza, who conducted research on CLA with the University of Wisconsin-Madison, reported in August 2000 to the American Chemical Society that "It doesn't make a big fat cell get little. What it rather does is keep a little fat cell from getting big." Pariza's research did not find weight loss in his group of 71 overweight people, but what he did find was that when the dieters stopped dieting, and gained back weight, those taking CLA "were more likely to gain muscle and not fat.''

    http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/weight-loss-etc/CLA-Tonalin-research.htm

    Can't copy/paste from the article... sigh.

    From what I've found, Tonalin(R) is the most common producer of CLA supplements and largely produce their CLA from safflower oil. I did a quick search on GNC and Vitamin Shoppe to see if I could find detailed specifications about the mixtures they use (hoping to find something to put the WIki article's c9,t11/t10,c12 information into context), but I didn't really find that much.

    Honestly, I think my curiosity is peaked. I've always had a horrible time w/ my abdominal area, and I've read enough positive results on this to give it a shot. I'm going to keep reading; anyone else who finds good articles on it, please post.

    Thanks for bringing this up, Hoodie! icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 25, 2009 11:32 PM GMT
    One great source for CLA is meat, eggs, and dairy products from animals raised solely on pasture and not fed grains in confinement situations. I call this grass finished beef (some call it grassfed beef), pastured eggs (not "free range", another misnomer), etc. For those (eg hockeynick) who want to read about CLA and omega 3s in food with real references, do a net search on "eat wild" and you will find some great information compiled by Jo Robinson. I prefer getting nutrients from food instead of pills and powders.
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    Oct 25, 2009 11:47 PM GMT
    I added all the good fats back into my diet (animal, fish, nuts and seeds) and and dropped about 12 lbs of body fat in under 2 months ( at my age) and it seems to still be working. THe deal is you also have to eliminate processed sugar because that causes your body to go into the store fat mode. The cruciferous veggies help to...bump up your testosterone.
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    Oct 25, 2009 11:52 PM GMT
    I found an article that referenced some pretty bad side-effects depending on the type of animal it was tested on.
    http://www.jlr.org/cgi/content/full/44/12/2234?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=conjugated+linoleic+acid&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWFIG

    Look's like in some animals it can lead to fat being deposited elsewhere internally, reduce body sensitivity to insulin, possibly increase risk of cardiovascular problems.
    Near bottom it stated that CLA should be classified as a trans-fat too.


    That stuff doesn't seem safe. I wouldn't take it personally.
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    Jun 02, 2010 2:53 PM GMT
    Anto saidI found an article that referenced some pretty bad side-effects depending on the type of animal it was tested on.
    http://www.jlr.org/cgi/content/full/44/12/2234?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=conjugated+linoleic+acid&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWFIG

    Look's like in some animals it can lead to fat being deposited elsewhere internally, reduce body sensitivity to insulin, possibly increase risk of cardiovascular problems.
    Near bottom it stated that CLA should be classified as a trans-fat too.


    That stuff doesn't seem safe. I wouldn't take it personally.


    I was told to take a break from it for about a month once I killed the 120 capsule bottle, so I think in moderation it isn't a terrible thing to be taking. But as others have stated, you need to take it consistently, it can be found in plenty of other foods (Bison meat is also a great source) and it is NOT the miracle pill to get cut.