Can the NFL learn from DODT?

  • tazzari

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    Mar 02, 2013 11:44 PM GMT
    What the NFL should learn from Don't Ask, Don't Tell

    A year after DADT ended, the US military lost none of its effectiveness. Football can only gain from gay players being out

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/02/nfl-learn-dont-ask-dont-tell
  • calibro

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    Mar 03, 2013 2:13 AM GMT
    DODT?
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    Mar 03, 2013 2:15 AM GMT
    calibro saidDODT?


    +1
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    Mar 03, 2013 2:17 AM GMT
    Interesting article but I doubt the NFL would learn anything. Professional American football players are entertainers and not soldiers. I would equate their position much like Hollywood A-list actors. Once an NFL athlete comes out, his career is over.
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    Mar 03, 2013 3:14 AM GMT
    Maybe it's just me, but I think comparing DADT to homophobia in sports isn't quite the same.
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    Mar 03, 2013 6:10 AM GMT
    xrichx saidMaybe it's just me, but I think comparing DADT to homophobia in sports isn't quite the same.


    In principle, I think it is. While the military is a world unto itself where you are punished for not following orders, the NFL, while a sporting league, should be treated as corporations. After all, the teams are not just "sports". They are businesses. And if, as a business, an employee (i.e. team player or employee) chooses to harass someone because of his or her sexuality, the rules of the company must apply. Now here is the only difference I see.

    The military is not a private business. NFL teams are. The governing body of the NFL should honestly take the lead in American sports and steadfastly admonish any bullying or homophobia among its ranks. If any player (see the San Francisco 49er's ass) who states that no gay player would be allowed on his team, that player should be hauled into the front office and reprimanded like any other employee. If some cases, contracts should be void if such harassment occurs.

    So for me, they are the same in principle, but how the entities handle the issues is different.
  • USMCjock

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    Mar 03, 2013 6:19 AM GMT
    I think the NFL is a bunch off asswipes anyway- they will sue mom&pop pizza shop for daring to use the term "Superbowl" in an advertisement for Super Sunday because Papa John's is the 'Official Pizza'..lame.

    I don't think the NFL is the problem though.. Some individual players such as this guy from the Ravens, Brendon Ayanbadejo support gay marriage. But then THIS AssClown- Emmett C Burns Jr. (Democrat from the MD House of Delegates) sends complaint letter to the Ravens- saying, in part: "I find it inconceivable that one of your players, Mr. Brendon Ayanbadejo, would publicly endorse Same-Sex marriage, specifically as a Ravens football player."

    Was topic of it's own back when story first broke:

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2483731
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    Mar 03, 2013 4:25 PM GMT
    As an employee in professional and collegiate sports, there are a lot of misnomers that gay people will be openly discriminated. I know for a fact there was a gay football athlete in college a few years ago who was widely supported by his teammates. Of course, he was also a key contributor to the team.

    Whoever is 'brave' enough to do this must realize he will be a martyr for some and a villain to others. Jackie Robinson endured it and several decades later is remembered as a catalyst for change. It will happen. It's just a question of when.

    In my honest opinion, the first openly gay athlete in the NFL will come from a more liberal city such as Seattle, San Francisco or Miami. I don't think it would go over so well in towns such as Nashville or Charlotte.
  • tazzari

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    Mar 03, 2013 6:57 PM GMT
    calibro saidDODT?


    Sorry - multi-tasking...
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    Mar 07, 2013 3:14 AM GMT
    Here's a different, interesting perspective I found:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/conor-gaughan/out-of-the-closet-and-into-the-locker-room-the-business-of-coming-out-in-the-pros_b_2819183.html

    Article is a bit long to copy and paste.