Are Republicans Racists?

  • GQjock

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    Oct 09, 2008 11:05 AM GMT
    Recently at a Palin rally she fired up the crowds to a frenzy
    of boos and a backdrop of "Kill Him"
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/06/AR2008100602935.html

    ... and at the same venue when Palin told of her just dreadful dreadful treatment by the "gotcha" media the crowd then turned on the media that was there yelling at them and telling a black sound man to ... sit down BOY???

    ... and this isn't brought up by the candidates???
    That is no Uncertain terms can this type of behavior be tolerated ever?

    Unless .... that's exactly what they were aiming for in the first palce

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    Oct 09, 2008 11:28 AM GMT
    I am certain there are republican racists just as i am certain there are racists who are democrat or independent. Those comments are horrible and nothing would make me happier than to have these incidences further explored. I believe the democractic party is doing the right thing by letting the republican party flounder and blunder away cuz any official reaction by them would only highlight this situation and draw attention away from the real issues.
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    Oct 09, 2008 11:45 AM GMT
    I dont think Republicans are racist generally, but I do think the people running the Palin/McCain ticket are race baiting.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Oct 09, 2008 12:04 PM GMT
    If I continue to see a campaign event like that one with people in the audience yelling all kinds of slurs, I will go back to refering to Palin by her former name.....lol

    Seriously, its all a campaign ploy by a cheap and desperate campaign.
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    Oct 09, 2008 12:26 PM GMT
    All Republicans are not racists, and all racists are not Republicans. But their political philosophies go together like bread & butter, because racists are most frequently right-wingers. And that's true in other countries, too.

    In trying to energize and expand their right-wing base, McCain and Palin are appealing to the basest of the base. As their polling numbers plummet, so do their ethics & integrity.

    We got our large magnetic Obama-Biden sticker in the mail yesterday, for making a contribution online. I put it on one of the cars this morning. Should be more coming shortly. I see plenty of them here in Gayville, Florida, but no McCain-Palin. Good.
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    Oct 09, 2008 1:56 PM GMT
    Republicans are not racist inherently (though their policies do harm racial minorities in general). But these Palin rallies have been getting out of hand. She is not necessarily responsible for what people at the rallies do or say, but as a candidate for vice-president it is shameful that she is not doing anything to stop them. With reports like this appearing virtually every day she should be sensitive to it and say it is inappropriate. And until she does, she is the Eva Braun of the GOP ticket.
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    Oct 09, 2008 2:33 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie said [Palin] is the Eva Braun of the GOP ticket.


    I find that somehow appealing as a slogan, though historically flawed. Eva Braun was kept under wraps by the Nazis, never openly campaigned for Hitler, never held any political power herself. Nor even had any political influence, it appears. She was Hitler's secret mistress, and nothing more.

    But I still like the sound of it. LOL!
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    Oct 09, 2008 2:37 PM GMT
    Red: Oh yes, I am well aware of Eva's role. As far as the McCain campaign is concerned Palin isn't a politician, she is just a walking uterus, a fertility statue for impotent McCain. So Eva/Eve is a fitting. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 09, 2008 2:59 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidRed: Oh yes, I am well aware of Eva's role. As far as the McCain campaign is concerned Palin isn't a politician, she is just a walking uterus, a fertility statue for impotent McCain. So Eva/Eve is a fitting. icon_biggrin.gif


    And here I was thinking that calling her the "Palin woman" was inappropriate...LOL
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    Oct 09, 2008 3:13 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidRed: Oh yes, I am well aware of Eva's role. As far as the McCain campaign is concerned Palin isn't a politician, she is just a walking uterus, a fertility statue for impotent McCain. So Eva/Eve is a fitting. icon_biggrin.gif


    Yes, I see the parallels. Also that McCain has a penchant for younger trophy women. He isn't marrying her, but she is his running "mate."

    She's in a subordinate, supportive, stereotypically old-style female role, even if the office in question is the Vice-Presidency. And the values stressed about her fall into that range. She "stands by her man" while her "man" and his people pull her strings.
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    Oct 09, 2008 3:35 PM GMT
    I'm guessing that the true intellectual leaders of the conservative movement are now fully realizing the price they've paid by aligning themselves with the willfully ignorant and intolerant.

    Fiscal conservatism, flawed though it might be when applied to the real world, isn't the problem. The problem is that the Republicans became the party of the "moral majority" and, in doing so, established an environment that coddles the jingoistic and religiously fervent.

    Now they're in a tough position: they're stuck dealing with a whole bunch of knuckle draggers - people that they need in order to get their politicians elected, but who are toxic to the intelligent. They've created their own brain drain environment.

    So...in summary: Republicans aren't racists. Douche bag ignorant assholes are racists. There just happens to be a large cross over between those two groups.
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    Oct 09, 2008 3:53 PM GMT
    hobronto saidI'm guessing that the true intellectual leaders of the conservative movement are now fully realizing the price they've paid by aligning themselves with the willfully ignorant and intolerant. [SNIP]


    Agreed, and I wrote something similar here in another thread. The Republicans are riding the whirlwind, but what bothers me is that their national party status has given legitimacy, and recruitment powers, to those groups you mention in your full post.

    The Religious Right has in fact become larger and more powerful, in alliance with the Republican Party, whereas previously they had much less power. I can't predict how influential they will ultimately be, but they may have the ability to remain a significant political force for generations to come.

    And with an electorate permanently divided into "thirds" (right, center, left), and a right wing that is as monolithic as the old "Solid South" once was, their voice will be heard in national politics and debates for many more years.

    The Republicans did indeed open a Pandora's Box for their own selfish interests, and now the rest of us must struggle to restore a world imperiled.
  • EricLA

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    Oct 09, 2008 6:37 PM GMT
    Racists may be a going a little overboard. But their economic, social, immigration policies, etc., etc., tend to benefit white people more and put others at a disadvantage. I'm sure this is attractive to people who are racist.
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    Oct 09, 2008 6:47 PM GMT
    EricLA saidRacists may be a going a little overboard. But their economic, social, immigration policies, etc., etc., tend to benefit white people more and put others at a disadvantage. I'm sure this is attractive to people who are racist.


    How about bigot then? My word processor gives this thesaurus listing:

    chauvinist, partisan, sectarian; racist, sexist, homophobe, dogmatist, jingoist

    Sounds pretty Republican to me.
  • auryn

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    Oct 09, 2008 7:04 PM GMT
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    Oct 09, 2008 7:09 PM GMT
    I'm not sure if this is racist. Prejudice however, yes. Racism as I understand is based on actions against another human on the basis of their race... whereas prejudice is simply that. Subtlety aside, it's a travesty for this "Country First" message to have someone yell this and yet Palin doesn't say a word or address this hatred head on.
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    Oct 09, 2008 7:21 PM GMT
    NNJfitandbi said

    I think that in John McCain's case, the fact that he needs racist votes is particularly troubling for him. He's a decent man, and I bet he is disgusted by a lot of what he's had to do to stay alive as a candidate. I don't think his snubbing of Obama or his contemptuous references to Obama are racist -- I think he just can't believe that the people appear to like Obama better and treats his "enemy" with scorn -- but his behavior is surely going to make racists happy. Lee Atwater isn't dead.

    The fact is: if the GOP purged itself of racists, it would be dead. Republicans know that and accept it.


    A decent man would not divorce his ailing wife to marry a rich, younger woman just a month later. Selfish? Yes. Unconscientious? Most definitely. Decent? Absolutely not. And given the nature of race relations in this country, a decent white man would not intentionally treat a black man, who is his equal, like an insignificant subordinate.

    Indeed, McCain is indecent. And yes, in my opinion, he's also a racist asshole.
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    Oct 09, 2008 7:27 PM GMT
    BlkMuscleGent said<
    Indeed, McCain is indecent. And, yes, in my opinion, he's also a racist asshole.


    AMEN! And I strongly suspect, mentally unstable. Whether that's a residual of his POW captivity or something else, I don't know. Nor need to know. What is relevant is his history of public erratic behavior. Not a person we dare have as President and Commander-in-Chief.
  • EricLA

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    Oct 09, 2008 7:51 PM GMT
    I'd at least like to believe that Republicans are more likely to be racist (or at least bigoted) than Democrats. Pollsters looking at Appalachian Democrats will tell you Obama has an uphill climb securing their votes.

    Saw this a few weeks ago on Towleroad -- a rural Hillary Clinton supported talking about Obama. A bit scary. Does get racist towards the end, so be warned:

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    Oct 09, 2008 7:56 PM GMT
    Yes there are racist in the Republican party just as there are racist in the Democratic part and truth be told. I would have more respect from some who is racist because I would know what to expect from you.

    Do I think that the tone of the McCain campaign has turned into a game of race baiting, yes! Is it racist absolutely and it's also dangerous.

    My fear has been since Obama entered the race is and was that some over-zealous American might harm him or a member of his family.

    That's where we are now when we have McCain/Palin supporters yelling kill him! They stand there silent. It's Madness which in my opion Racism and bigotry on any level is a form of MADNESS!icon_evil.gif

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    Oct 09, 2008 7:59 PM GMT
    The other day I was reading anecdotes from Obama canvassers in Indiana. They would call Obama a nigger and use horrible racist language to describe him. But they would follow with "but with the way this economy is going I just don't know who I am going to vote for". If people like that are undecided voters McCain has some big problems.
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    Oct 09, 2008 8:23 PM GMT
    The GOP purging itself of racists is like investment banks self-regulating, and look how that's turning out.
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    Oct 09, 2008 8:24 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]NNJfitandbi said[/cite
    Do we have to make him an insane racist, too?

    I did not say "insane racist," but mentally unstable as a general statement. His public history in elective office is erratic, with wild swings. Racism is another issue, but his instability when under pressure is documented.
  • silverfox

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    Oct 09, 2008 8:30 PM GMT
    The fact that neither Palin or McCain came out after the fact to denounce the chanting of "Kill him" etc. makes them despicable...not sure they would be considered racists because of this.

    Not to decide, is to decide.
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    Oct 09, 2008 8:42 PM GMT
    NNJfitandbi said
    Red_Vespa said
    BlkMuscleGent said<
    Indeed, McCain is indecent. And, yes, in my opinion, he's also a racist asshole.


    AMEN! And I strongly suspect, mentally unstable. Whether that's a residual of his POW captivity or something else, I don't know. Nor need to know. What is relevant is his history of public erratic behavior. Not a person we dare have as President and Commander-in-Chief.


    Well, I think McCain would make a terrible president. He has no idea what to do about the economy. I'm not a fan of his foreign policy ideas.

    Do we have to make him an insane racist, too?

    When we do aren't we the same as the Republican strategists who try to convince us that there is something "not quite right" or "different from you and me" about Obama?


    We don't have to make McCain a racist. If he "walks" like a racist and "talks" like a racist, then he is a racist.