Why Two Mass Shootings Will Not Change Swiss Gun Culture

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    Mar 04, 2013 2:16 PM GMT
    http://world.time.com/2013/03/04/why-two-mass-shootings-will-not-change-swiss-gun-culture/
  • wild_sky360

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    Mar 04, 2013 8:00 PM GMT
    Interesting, that even in a country that apparently does not have a gun "problem", a coordinated, but failed effort was made in 2011 to ban private ownership of weapons.

    Perhaps if they had succeeded in reducing gun ownership by 75%, there would have been a chance that these two drug addled lunatics may have merely stabbed, bludgeoned, axed, blown up, burned, poisoned, or run down their apparently random victims.
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    Mar 04, 2013 8:18 PM GMT
    Hmmm, this post--and the article--is implying what? That regulations to close gun-show loopholes, registering gun owners after doing responsible background checks, reducing magazine capacity, eliminating assault weapons and presuming the same level of fitness for use that an automobile driver has to show (you know, with licensing, insurance, testing & training) is the same thing as banning all guns outright (and Taking Them From Your Cold, Dead Hands)?

    If you want to have a disingenuous conversation based upon hyperbole, keep at it, right-winger; the Swiss are not on your side. The Swiss have this going for them: they don't have an obnoxious gun-manufacturer lobby (you might have heard of the NRA) conflating responsibility with banning. Proud of their gun culture, they're not forced to put up with the piss-slinging we have here in the United States that passes for dialog.
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    Mar 04, 2013 8:50 PM GMT
    They don't have a gun problem. That was my primary point; yet there are political forces that would like to disarm them after centuries of responsible gun ownership.

    That is PART of what the article covers. It was a balanced piece that made multiple points.

    Hyperbole? Right winger? Hardly

    Piss slinging ...uh yeah
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    Mar 04, 2013 9:37 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio saidHmmm, this post--and the article--is implying what? That regulations to close gun-show loopholes, registering gun owners after doing responsible background checks, reducing magazine capacity, eliminating assault weapons and presuming the same level of fitness for use that an automobile driver has to show (you know, with licensing, insurance, testing & training) is the same thing as banning all guns outright (and Taking Them From Your Cold, Dead Hands)?

    If you want to have a disingenuous conversation based upon hyperbole, keep at it, right-winger; the Swiss are not on your side. The Swiss have this going for them: they don't have an obnoxious gun-manufacturer lobby (you might have heard of the NRA) conflating responsibility with banning. Proud of their gun culture, they're not forced to put up with the piss-slinging we have here in the United States that passes for dialog.


    That "balance" people talk about when swiss politics come up, which makes swiss politics so smooth, is hardly something we should want. Sure, it works for them--and is considered one of the best political systems in the world--but it's also boring in a way that makes it the antithesis of our own system.

    And mein Gott man, the swiss have a grassroots progun lobby called ProTell , whose message is very much like the NRA's...

  • Mar 04, 2013 10:06 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio saidHmmm, this post--and the article--is implying what? That regulations to close gun-show loopholes, registering gun owners after doing responsible background checks, reducing magazine capacity, eliminating assault weapons and presuming the same level of fitness for use that an automobile driver has to show (you know, with licensing, insurance, testing & training) is the same thing as banning all guns outright (and Taking Them From Your Cold, Dead Hands)?

    If you want to have a disingenuous conversation based upon hyperbole, keep at it, right-winger; the Swiss are not on your side. The Swiss have this going for them: they don't have an obnoxious gun-manufacturer lobby (you might have heard of the NRA) conflating responsibility with banning. Proud of their gun culture, they're not forced to put up with the piss-slinging we have here in the United States that passes for dialog.



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  • conservativej...

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    Mar 05, 2013 2:53 AM GMT
    Alas, der Schweiz is becoming as trashy as America. A very good reason to support the SVP.
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    Mar 06, 2013 8:01 AM GMT
    conservativejock saidAlas, der Schweiz is becoming as trashy as America. A very good reason to support the SVP.


    Speaking of trashy.
  • drypin

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    Mar 06, 2013 8:46 AM GMT
    Um... it's die Schweiz. Switzerland is a lady.