Beyond belief (Jesus in India - Documentary)

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    Mar 05, 2013 3:12 PM GMT
    As I was looking for recently added documentaries in YouTube, I came across this Video...and after watching it, I really liked this documentary...
    by Frank Huguenard who gives his unbiased opinions.

    Has anyone read or at least knows about 'The Gospel of Thomas'?

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    Mar 05, 2013 5:33 PM GMT
    Didnt he die?
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    Mar 05, 2013 5:36 PM GMT
    I don't have the patience to watch this, but I am wondering what an image of the Potala in Lhasa, Tibet has to do with Jesus in India.
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    Mar 05, 2013 5:58 PM GMT
    Harry7785 said...this documentary...

    by Frank Huguenard who gives his unbiased opinions.


    "unbiased opinions" is an oxymoron. We all have our biases and they shape our opinions.
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    Mar 05, 2013 6:00 PM GMT
    Harry7785 saidAs I was looking for recently added documentaries in YouTube, I came across this Video...and after watching it, I really liked this documentary...
    by Frank Huguenard who gives his unbiased opinions.

    Has anyone read or at least knows about 'The Gospel of Thomas'?



    Yes, I have read (and to some extent, studied) the Gospel of Thomas. Why do you ask?
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    Mar 05, 2013 8:26 PM GMT
    A gnostic Gospel. Gnosticism itself was a heresy the early Church weeded out, for good reason.
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    Mar 05, 2013 8:33 PM GMT
    FranciscoC saidA gnostic Gospel. Gnosticism itself was a heresy the early Church weeded out, for good reason.


    No!No! Don't you know everyone loves a good conspiracy theory, including RJ members. How dare you rob them of that!
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    Mar 05, 2013 8:54 PM GMT
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    FranciscoC saidA gnostic Gospel. Gnosticism itself was a heresy the early Church weeded out, for good reason.


    No!No! Don't you know everyone loves a good conspiracy theory, including RJ members. How dare you rob them of that!

    That's not a conspiracy theory, THIS is a conspiracy theory:
    http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/lady-gaga-the-illuminati-puppet/
    I told Lady Gaga the Illuminati was a pyramid scheme, like Avon, or the Girl Scouts.
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    Mar 05, 2013 9:02 PM GMT
    "The Gospel According to Thomas- the Gnostic Sayings of Jesus" was and still is one of my favorite texts. Much like the 'Gita, every read has something new to offer so it never gets boring. As far as Jesus in India is concerned; I have no doubt he was able to study with some of the great Indian minds/spirits of the times.
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    Mar 06, 2013 4:41 AM GMT
    Thomas is said to have introduced Christianity in India just a few decades AD, making India the second oldest officially accepted Christian country in the world after Ethiopia (Rome took a few centuries to accept the new religion)

    The works of scholars and Eastern Christian writings state that Christianity was introduced to India by Thomas the Apostle, who visited Muziris in Kerala in 52 AD to spread the gospel amongst Kerala's Jewish settlements


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_India
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    Mar 06, 2013 4:50 AM GMT
    showme saidI don't have the patience to watch this, but I am wondering what an image of the Potala in Lhasa, Tibet has to do with Jesus in India.


    Have patience, and watch the video to know what Tibet has to do with Jesus in India icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 06, 2013 4:52 AM GMT
    ChoklitDaddy said
    Harry7785 said

    Yes, I have read (and to some extent, studied) the Gospel of Thomas. Why do you ask?


    Just want to know whether anyone read it or not!
    because, it was said in the video that very few Christians know about it!
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    Mar 06, 2013 4:58 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    Harry7785 said...this documentary...

    by Frank Huguenard who gives his unbiased opinions.


    "unbiased opinions" is an oxymoron. We all have our biases and they shape our opinions.


    Not everyone, only closed minded people are biased, A person with an open mind is less likely gives a biased opinions...
    Biased people gives closed opinions which may direct towards only one answer
    unbiased people gives open opinions...and can have many interpretations!
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    Mar 06, 2013 5:12 AM GMT
    showme saidI don't have the patience to watch this, but I am wondering what an image of the Potala in Lhasa, Tibet has to do with Jesus in India.


    I guess they are trying to create political issues.
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    Mar 06, 2013 5:13 AM GMT
    Harry7785 said
    showme saidI don't have the patience to watch this, but I am wondering what an image of the Potala in Lhasa, Tibet has to do with Jesus in India.


    Have patience, and watch the video to know what Tibet has to do with Jesus in India icon_smile.gif


    Yeah, I'm an atheist, got better things to do with an hour.
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    Mar 06, 2013 5:31 AM GMT
    showme said
    Harry7785 said
    showme saidI don't have the patience to watch this, but I am wondering what an image of the Potala in Lhasa, Tibet has to do with Jesus in India.


    Have patience, and watch the video to know what Tibet has to do with Jesus in India icon_smile.gif


    Yeah, I'm an atheist, got better things to do with an hour.


    lol, Good for you!
    The problem with me is, I'm a theist & yet I don't believe in superstition!
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    Mar 06, 2013 9:46 PM GMT
    heyom saidThomas is said to have introduced Christianity in India just a few decades AD, making India the second oldest officially accepted Christian country in the world after Ethiopia (Rome took a few centuries to accept the new religion)

    The works of scholars and Eastern Christian writings state that Christianity was introduced to India by Thomas the Apostle, who visited Muziris in Kerala in 52 AD to spread the gospel amongst Kerala's Jewish settlements


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_India

    The real Apostle Thomas has nothing to do with the "Gospel of Thomas."
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    Mar 07, 2013 3:36 AM GMT
    I watched almost 20 minutes of it.

    After over 300,000 polytheistic religions and over 1,000 monotheistic religions throughout written history, it amazes me that people still think their version of religion is correct...much less that religion is even legit.

    Religion is the most overrated piece of political propaganda ever "created."
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    Mar 07, 2013 4:11 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidReligion is the most overrated piece of political propaganda ever "created."

    Yes, but it is applicable only for people who have personal motives and are greedy for power etc. and uses religion as a weapon to attain what they seek!


    What am I? A part of the infinite. It is indeed in these words that the whole problem lies.
    And the cause of everything is that which we call God. To know God and to live is the same thing. God is Life.
    True religion is that relationship, in accordance with reason and knowledge, which man establishes with the infinite world around him, and which binds his life to that infinity and guides his actions .. and leads to the practical rules of the law: do to others as you would have them do unto you.
    (Leo Tolstoy, Confessions)
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    Mar 07, 2013 4:18 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidI watched almost 20 minutes of it.

    After over 300,000 polytheistic religions and over 1,000 monotheistic religions throughout written history, it amazes me that people still think their version of religion is correct...much less that religion is even legit.

    Religion is the most overrated piece of political propaganda ever "created."

    Yet history shows Judeo-Christianity always rising out of the ashes when all these other religions are buried and long forgotten.
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    Mar 07, 2013 5:13 PM GMT
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    paulflexes saidI watched almost 20 minutes of it.

    After over 300,000 polytheistic religions and over 1,000 monotheistic religions throughout written history, it amazes me that people still think their version of religion is correct...much less that religion is even legit.

    Religion is the most overrated piece of political propaganda ever "created."

    Yet history shows Judeo-Christianity always rising out of the ashes when all these other religions are buried and long forgotten.


    ...what about the Buddhist, the Jewish faith, the Muslim faith etc etc... ?
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    Mar 07, 2013 7:11 PM GMT
    Jesus - Krishna - Har...icon_eek.gif OMG icon_lol.gif

    "Whoever is acquainted with the father and the mother will be called the offspring of a prostitute.
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    Creation comprises of both Female and male aspect.

    Male = consciousness
    Female = is the physical plane. .....hmmm *interesting

    Simon Peter said to them: Let Mary go forth from among us, for women are not worthy of the life. <----icon_eek.gifmentle people.
    Jesus said: Behold, I shall lead her, that I may make her male, in order that she also may become a living spirit like you males. For every woman who makes herself male shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. <- very lesbian icon_lol.gif

    Then we are Superior in a sense the highest of all creations. icon_cool.gif to spread love and harmony.(in other words we are the living heaven on earth.)

    Well there we have the logics of The Ying = Female , Yang = Male of creations.

    I don't know but there is something more then enlightenment & I stick to "Godliness within you". There is more complexity & interlink in every religion. If you zoom in there are interlink just as how the "Internet" works.

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    Example the Star of David its nothing new to me , when I was a kid in Hinduism there is this Symbol which they called Yantras that people pray to which is that intersect triangle 1 facing up 1 down = as the Ying & Yang the opposite of the other as manifestations Earth (down) Air (up) * any Idea our rock band 30Seconds to Mars is doing?.. and their devoted symbol? 15.gif

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    and this is earth...
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    But I do agree as generation goes things eventually gets altered & I'm not saying the Bible is now Holy-crap book, but I've never liked the New Testament. icon_rolleyes.gif don't know why just never liked it...well you get the hint.

    thanks for sharing! icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 07, 2013 9:33 PM GMT
    Agree with meninlove about polytheisms` survival.

    How about the hundreds of millions of Hindus, and their religion stretching from the ancient past to today?

    We tend to forget Christianity started in Asia and was well established there before it ever reached Western Europe or anywhere else.
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    Mar 07, 2013 10:29 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    FranciscoC said
    paulflexes saidI watched almost 20 minutes of it.

    After over 300,000 polytheistic religions and over 1,000 monotheistic religions throughout written history, it amazes me that people still think their version of religion is correct...much less that religion is even legit.

    Religion is the most overrated piece of political propaganda ever "created."

    Yet history shows Judeo-Christianity always rising out of the ashes when all these other religions are buried and long forgotten.


    ...what about the Buddhist, the Jewish faith, the Muslim faith etc etc... ?
    And Hindu, which predates all others...sorta the whole point of the documentary. icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 07, 2013 11:04 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    meninlove said
    FranciscoC said
    paulflexes saidI watched almost 20 minutes of it.

    After over 300,000 polytheistic religions and over 1,000 monotheistic religions throughout written history, it amazes me that people still think their version of religion is correct...much less that religion is even legit.

    Religion is the most overrated piece of political propaganda ever "created."

    Yet history shows Judeo-Christianity always rising out of the ashes when all these other religions are buried and long forgotten.


    ...what about the Buddhist, the Jewish faith, the Muslim faith etc etc... ?
    And Hindu, which predates all others...sorta the whole point of the documentary. icon_wink.gif


    The oldest one by far is tribalism/shamanism/animism.

    The problem with religious discussions is always the same that I've seen: it turns into a contest of "validity".

    It is about as useless as discussing whether it is better to eat with a fork and a knife or to eat with chopsticks... or whether an apple should be called a "manzana" or a "pomme"... it is the same as discussing whether the creator should be called "jehovah" or "brahmin" and what prayer should be used to invoke him/it/her

    which way one considers "correct" is determined by upbringing within a cultural context, and is constantly subject to change. Religion is always changing and is supposed to... hence the uselessness of discussing which one is "absolutely true." It is not a determinant of absolute truth, but a determinant of cultural identity. This is also why one's ethnicity in tribalism (including the Jewish faith) is determined by one's religion. Religion is a relative truth.

    Keep in mind that "relative truth" though does not mean I am saying "no truth". Since the religious concepts of the "creator" exists in every religion, it means that the "creator" DOES exist. The relativity is inherent in how it is addressed in each religion, but the that does not mean the creator is not there... it simply means it can be approached in a plurality of ways, in the same manner we can have infinite languages to describe the same apple, we can have infinite religions to approach the same "spiritual" reality.