Realjock is allowing Pro Prop 8 ads in the site

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    Oct 10, 2008 1:59 AM GMT
    So I am looking at my posts and see if any one had comments on them and then I see this:

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    And to add insult to injury, it come up while I was looking at a post where I am trying to educate people about why we should vote NO on Prop 8.

    What the hell!!!???
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    Oct 10, 2008 2:12 AM GMT
    Dear Realjock Admins,

    Are you people fucking retarded? Or is there someone in your department that just got away with something very very awful?

    You are run by ultra pro-gay philanthropists. Running ads contrary to your platform sends the following messages:

    (1) You're hypocritical
    (2) You put your business ethic is a priority over your social morals
    (3) You really aren't that pro-gay

    Or are you just trying to fire up the "No on Prop 8" side by pissing them off with opposing ads? If that's the case then good for you. I'm pissed and voting no on "Vote to keep marriage to a bunch of vagina stabbing pussy mongers of which more than half divorce anyway."

    Love,

    Jake

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    Oct 10, 2008 2:47 AM GMT
    Thank you for the support Jake. This came more as a surprise because RealJock is now charging for the full use of the site. Im glad I have not given any money to the site if they are going to be supporting the prop.
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    Oct 10, 2008 2:55 AM GMT
    I can't speak for the RealJock admins, but I doubt they actually support these Pro Prop 8 groups. If you participate on a website ad program you don't hand-pick the ads that your site hosts. You either chose a specific category of ads you want, or a script tries to determine which ad is best suited to be shown based on context.

    What the admins can do is request specific ads to not be shown. Once this comes to their attention I'm sure they'll fix it. (If they're smart icon_biggrin.gif).
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    Oct 10, 2008 5:24 AM GMT
    dowal saidI can't speak for the RealJock admins, but I doubt they actually support these Pro Prop 8 groups. If you participate on a website ad program you don't hand-pick the ads that your site hosts. You either chose a specific category of ads you want, or a script tries to determine which ad is best suited to be shown based on context.


    So you're telling me NAACP websites might accidentally have a White Pride ad on their site once in a while?
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    Oct 10, 2008 1:48 PM GMT
    You would think that the RJ admin. would get a list of the people/companies that will show up in the advertisements. Imagine the laughs the people of Prop 8 are having. They must be saying" Look at these fools, talking against us, while they are giving us their money and paying for their own defeat" How pathetic does this site look then?
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    Oct 10, 2008 1:53 PM GMT
    Well....now hold on for a dog-gone minute....

    How effective do you think that ad is gonna be on here? Zip! would be my estimate. But placing an ad here sucks up some of the advertising revenue of the pro prop 8 side....and it gives the money to RJ. So isnt this a case of the pro prop 8 being foolish....and we laugh all the way to the bank.
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    Oct 10, 2008 1:55 PM GMT
    this has happenned before guys. church of scientology had ads on here. as did McCain i think... the Admins have no control over which ads suddenly show up. if it showed up on a thread about prop 8, the google ad program probably just shoved an ad about prop 8 in where it registered discussion about prop 8. done deal.
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    Oct 10, 2008 2:09 PM GMT
    I think you are right Caslon7000, it is very comforting to know that RJ is being paid for by those who hate us. And not every single gay men in here is against Prop.8. Some guys have stated in other forums that they are against marriage and they would rather let this prop go through. And I do not think it is just about the money but the principle of the matter. I bet you you will never see this happen in the McCain web page, or any of the religious right. And if we are going to let a computer/program decide what is shown here, as JMS84 says, I should start more controversial conversations. Who knows, maybe we will start getting ads from clinics that turn gays straight, or the lovely white supremacists sites that state they will beat to death any gay man. That should bring plenty of money into RJ.
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    Oct 10, 2008 4:01 PM GMT
    Banner ads are paid on an impression basis not on a per click basis, so yes, RJ is certainly getting paid for them, even if no one here is ever likely to click on them.

    As a host you can't stop ads you didn't know were going to run from appearing. I can't say how you turn off ads because I create them, not run them, but it'd probably be by use of negative keywords, which means that it's more a question of hindsight most of the time. Perhaps the Right don't run ads?

    The ads appear because Google (I'm assuming it's Google, it doesn't really matter) are smart enough to target the ads on the keywords it recognises on the page. As an advertiser you want your ads to turn up on pages where the thing you are selling is being talked about. So yes, if you have discussions about clinics to turn guys straight then then if there are ads running at the moment and the keywords are close enough then you've got a good chance of them turning up.
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    Oct 10, 2008 4:19 PM GMT
    Hi guys,

    Jeff from RealJock here. This ad came in through Google Adsense, Google's cost-per-click advertising system. Google's ad system serves ads based on keyword matches. We have no ability to pre-block any ads, but we can block them *after* they show up.

    I have gone ahead and blocked this ad from showing up on our site. In our experience, Google takes up to 24 hours to permanently block an ad from our site.

    Just so you understand, RealJock is actually running extensive "No on Prop 8" ads on our site for free (we're not making a dime off of them). As the founder of a gay California company (and as someone who is planning on marrying my partner of 12 years soon), I am doing everything I can to prevent the passage of this terrible legislation.

    In the future, if an ad that we would obviously never condone (anti-gay in any way) shows up on our site, please do the following:

    1. Click on the Help link in the upper right
    2. Send an email to our admin. Be sure to include the URL (e.g. http://www.protectmarriage.com in this case) so that we can block it.

    Thanks,
    Jeff
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    Oct 11, 2008 2:18 PM GMT
    Hi Jeff

    Thank you for letting us know about this. I am glad to hear that there is a way for you guys to stop this from happening. And I am also glad to know that you guys are helping to stop this prop. I would have expected that a site like RJ would be doing everything to stop such hateful proposition.This is the reason why I was so surprised this ad came up. Again thank you for taking care of this matter and I hope you have a great wedding, just make sure you take tons of pics, it does become a blur. I got married this past weekend to my partner of 7 years and it is good to have pics to remind yourself of what happened.