Weight loss... Muscle gain... cutting cycle... LOOSE SKIN?? FML

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    Mar 06, 2013 2:50 PM GMT
    Any of you guys have ever had loose skin after a weight loss?

    My body has gone through massive changes from being obese at 15 to 250lbs to a slim body at 140 to now bulked up current self at 160... yet my body is lean and muscled up the one part (around the belly button) there is loose skin..

    it kind makes it soo difficult to get ripped around that area especially when you poke and you can feel my ab just a layer of softness of skin which makes the abs unnoticeable..

    any ideas aside from surgery of what can i do to fix the loose skin or am i a prisoner to time...

    i know its possible just need to know exactly what i need to do weather it be diet or workouts...

    much appreciated guys!
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    Mar 06, 2013 3:54 PM GMT
    Basically went through the same as you, I heard since we're still young, it can still loosen up throughout time
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    Mar 06, 2013 9:13 PM GMT
    2 things, bud: as someone who lost 140 lbs myself.

    1) Your bodyfat % is still too high for abs, just judging from the pictures you have. You look good, but if you drop your bf some more you will get abs. Skin is not especially thick and any layer you feel over your abdominal muscles is fat.

    2) Even if you get your bodyfat into the lower range (like athlete or competition range), you'll still have some loose skin. Especially around the midsection. There are people for whom the skin pops back into place, but in my experience there aren't that many people for whom this is true. Cosmetic surgery is generally the only option if it really bothers you that much.
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    Mar 06, 2013 9:17 PM GMT
    Read once that you can never loose fat cells.
    When you get fat your body can create more adipocytes, they hypertrophy to a degree too, but when you shed the weight the cells just shrink in size - so you still have the tissue there.

    Sounded a bit like broscience, and since cells arent immortal (generally) then I guess over time you lose the excess adipocytes
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    Mar 06, 2013 9:33 PM GMT
    It is not broscience, but it is also theoretical.

    Adipocytes are cells that store fat. There are two types but that is not important. When you "lose fat" you lose the fat in the adipocytes, not the cells themselves.

    However, as to how many adipocytes it would take to make visible adipose.. is broscience.

    I would go with what previous posters suggested and that you just have higher bodyfat vs. too many adipocytes.

    If you get down to a much lower bf and still have this area of flab, then you can start thinking about the less likely causes.

    You look great by the way, fantastic work.
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    Mar 07, 2013 12:25 AM GMT
    surfswim saidRead once that you can never loose fat cells.
    When you get fat your body can create more adipocytes, they hypertrophy to a degree too, but when you shed the weight the cells just shrink in size - so you still have the tissue there.

    Sounded a bit like broscience, and since cells arent immortal (generally) then I guess over time you lose the excess adipocytes


    True. Fat kids make for fat adults. Those extra fat cells, even though they shrink, hang around for a very long time.

    That being said, eventually, the skin will tighten up. It will take some time. You didn't get to be a fat ass overnight, and you won't be the perfect 6 pack overnight, either.

    It's important that you find a healthy balance in your diet and exercise. Use your ability to gain, to your fortune, rather than fight. Just FYI, I weighed 175 to 185 in HIGH SCHOOL, and wasn't fat. I had the fifth highest strength index in my school, at the time. I'm now, 5'5" and 210, 52 years old, and not exactly shredded (I compete at 176), but, I'm not obese other than on the BMI scale which is nonsense. Just two hours ago, I had a 12 lead EKG done, and it came out with FLYING COLORS. I don't have LVH, and my heart works fine, nor do I have high cholesterol, etc., although today my BP is being stubborn (musta hit some MSG or other sodium somewhere..most days BP is in line, too.).

    You look like a Husker (corn fed, well bred, and educated). Go Huskers! (I lived at 31'st street and Holdrege in LNK for five years, and trained at UNL, was studied by UNL and the NCSA in LNK. West Stadium Complex was amazing, but, the new Osborne Complex even more so from what I was reading.

    Keep your head up. You look fine. You should feel fine. Go with it. Don't starve yourself to have six pack abs to the loss of your NATURAL abilities (to be built).
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    Mar 07, 2013 12:53 AM GMT
    The fat cells thing is broscience. All of your skin cells die off over the course of 35 days... there's no reason your fat cells should be immortal.
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    Mar 07, 2013 6:22 AM GMT
    Larkin saidThe fat cells thing is broscience. All of your skin cells die off over the course of 35 days... there's no reason your fat cells should be immortal.


    35 days? I never heard this, but, I don't dispute your statement.

    Over the years, in the gym, I've met folks who have dropped as much as 250 pounds. I met one kid who had a ton of loose skin, and he had been told by medical folks the only hope was surgically removing it. He was 475 pounds in his teen years, and when I met him he was around 250, then down to around 180. He had loose skin everywhere..

    I have to dig deeply into this to confirm what you're saying, but, it is not common wisdom.

    Most places I look disagree with your statement, thus far. I'm not saying you're wrong, but that I've not found any known reliable sites that agree with your statement. Even MDs seem to disagree on this topic.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/228179-where-do-fat-cells-go-when-you-lose-weight/

    [url]http://search2.mayoclinic.com/search?q=fat+cells&site=mayoclinic-org|mayoclinic-com|mayo-edu|internet-research|clinical-trials&client=unified&proxystylesheet=unified&output=xml_no_dtd[/url]

    Quoting Mayo Clinic: "Because cellulite resides in the fatty tissue underneath the skin, any claims that a cream or lotion can eliminate it are just not true. The same goes for products or devices that promise to treat cellulite: there is little or no scientific evidence that supports these claims."

    Mayo explains cellulite as permanent and annoying thing.

    http://www.fasting.ws/juice-fasting/fasting-for-weight-loss/fat-cells-do-not-live-forever

    http://www.ehow.com/about_5632826_life-fat-cell.html

    http://calorielab.com/news/2006/08/17/fat-cells-never-say-die/