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    Mar 07, 2013 12:21 AM GMT
    I am from a homophobic country that has a death penalty for gays. I currently live in US as a student. It was here where I accepted my sexuality and overcame a long-term depression.

    Lately, as I get closer to graduation, I see more and more nightmares of being back there. I have been doing great in school up to now but "..when a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully."

    I heard that I can file for asylum.

    Do you know anything about that? Can you help me?



    PS: Forgive me for the empty profile. I am sure you understand.
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    Mar 07, 2013 12:36 AM GMT
    You might be confusing refugee status with I think what was Obama's presidential decree to allow the immigration of same sex partners. Until we get equal status in the USA, I don't know that our gay brothers & sisters would be considered political refugees.

    I'm not familiar with this topic and wish you the very best with it. What a terrible situation to find yourself in. If I was in your situation I'd look into countries which already have marriage rights for gay people.

    Here's an organization in Canada which maybe could help you.

    http://www.rainbowrefugee.ca/

    Founded in 2000, Rainbow Refugee Committee (RRC) is a Vancouver based community group that supports and advocates with people seeking refugee protection because of persecution based on sexual orientation, gender identity, or HIV status.

    RRC also provides information to asylum seekers outside Canada


    PS. here's another group with branch offices in the USA

    http://www.iglhrc.org/cgi-bin/iowa/content/lgtbdirectory/asylum/index.html

    and here's another Canada site http://www.borderconnections.com/same-sex-immigration.html

    And here's some info on seeking asylum in the USA http://immigrationequality.org/issues/asylum/
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    Mar 07, 2013 12:52 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidNope.....don't understand.

    Anon charity requests on RJ often come off like the whole "nigerian prince" gambit. Sorry, you're in the wrong gaybourhood, honey....you might want to hit up your local gay-friendly church or community organization. icon_confused.gif



    I am not sure why you refer me to a church. I am agnostic/atheist and I am not going to pretend to being Christian.
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    Mar 07, 2013 1:00 AM GMT
    theantijock saidYou might be confusing refugee status with I think what was Obama's presidential decree to allow the immigration of same sex partners. Until we get equal status in the USA, I don't know that our gay brothers & sisters would be considered political refugees.

    I'm not familiar with this topic and wish you the very best with it. What a terrible situation to find yourself in. If I was in your situation I'd look into countries which already have marriage rights for gay people.

    Here's an organization in Canada which maybe could help you.

    ...

    And here's some info on seeking asylum in the USA http://immigrationequality.org/issues/asylum/


    No, I am not confusing the two. US has been granting asylum to LGBT since 90's and especially after 2003. It is not related to marriage equality and it is different from political asylum.

    Canada doesn't accept people who have been to US (not sure why).

    I have contacted immigration equality. They said they might be able to help me, but it will take them a while, because they don't have many connections in my area who take asylum cases as pro bono.
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    Mar 07, 2013 1:15 AM GMT
    humanbeing saidNo, I am not confusing the two. US has been granting asylum to LGBT since 90's and especially after 2003. It is not related to marriage equality and it is different from political asylum.

    Canada doesn't accept people who have been to US (not sure why).

    I have contacted immigration equality. They said they might be able to help me, but it will take them a while, because they don't have many connections in my area who take asylum cases as pro bono.


    Oh, I didn't know. But check my ps on my post I listed info on US asylum that I later found.

    Canada probably just wants you to check your gun at the door.

    Try not to let your grades slip much so that you can continue school here if need be while you work through this.

    Good luck man.
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    Mar 07, 2013 1:15 AM GMT
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    Mar 07, 2013 1:17 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    humanbeing said
    yourname2000 saidNope.....don't understand.

    Anon charity requests on RJ often come off like the whole "nigerian prince" gambit. Sorry, you're in the wrong gaybourhood, honey....you might want to hit up your local gay-friendly church or community organization. icon_confused.gif



    I am not sure why you refer me to a church. I am agnostic/atheist and I am not going to pretend to being Christian.

    Trolls can be any religion they want. But if you want sanctuary, go to a church. They're the "asylum" pros.


    I am not "trolling", and I wonder how you can think of a death penalty as a subject for fun and trolling.

    It's the wrong kind of place for your "sardonic wit".
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    Mar 07, 2013 1:31 AM GMT
    theantijock said
    humanbeing said


    Oh, I didn't know. But check my ps on my post I listed info on US asylum that I later found.

    Canada probably just wants you to check your gun at the door.

    Try not to let your grades slip much so that you can continue school here if need be while you work through this.

    Good luck man.


    Thanks man.

    I have actually done online research about it. At this point I need legal advice, and supportive words.

    I will try to keep my GPA high, but it's hard to focus on my thesis. :-/

    Thanks again.
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    Mar 07, 2013 6:23 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidNope.....don't understand.

    Anon charity requests on RJ often come off like the whole "nigerian prince" gambit. Sorry, you're in the wrong gaybourhood, honey....you might want to hit up your local gay-friendly church or community organization. icon_confused.gif


    Actually, I was the one that suggested that he post anonymously. He does not feel safe posting openly because of the country he comes from. If he is forced to move back, it could mean his life.
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    Mar 07, 2013 6:29 AM GMT
    It might be a good idea to contact a representative. Being that you are in a Southern State, I'm not so sure that it would be a good idea to contact one there.

    I know that California Congresswoman Judy Chu is working on immigration right now. You might want to contact her office and see if they can give you advice. She is very GLBT friendly. She is not the only one you can contact. But it might be a good place to start.

    http://chu.house.gov/

    In the mean time, if I was you, I would stay in school for as long as possible unless you get a company that is willing to sponsor you (I'm not sure if that is the correct terminology). Just make sure to always have a backup plan, just in case. If I could not stay in this country, I would find another that was willing to take you, rather than going back to your home country.
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    Mar 07, 2013 11:11 AM GMT
    OP,
    I have a friend who is also here in the USA for school. He did college, took it very slowly, and now is doing graduate work. I am not sure the details about what he needs to do to remain here. His situation is very different. I think he is both a USA citizen and a citizen of his country. Send me a private message if you feel comfortable about your situation and country and I will see what my friend knows.
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    Mar 07, 2013 11:27 AM GMT
    humanbeing said
    Do you know anything about that? Can you help me?


    I don't know about it...but you can take my suggestion anyway!
    Have you tried contacting any lawyer?
    contact some LGBT organizations which are popular in USA, they may give you some good advice and you may even get a helping hand from them..
    How about, in the meantime create an online petition to get public support! there are some sites like change.org, care2 etc.,.

    Had I know more about US laws, I would have definitely helped you :-/
    If you need any help other than things that relate to US laws (like preparing the body of petition or moral support or whatever it is!), feel free to ask me...
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    Mar 07, 2013 11:28 AM GMT
    I hope you find a way to work it out...

    It's 2013 and we still live in a world where sexuality can cost you your life.. icon_sad.gif
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    Mar 07, 2013 7:05 PM GMT
    Harry7785 said
    humanbeing said
    Do you know anything about that? Can you help me?


    I don't know about it...but you can take my suggestion anyway!
    Have you tried contacting any lawyer?
    contact some LGBT organizations which are popular in USA, they may give you some good advice and you may even get a helping hand from them..
    How about, in the meantime create an online petition to get public support! there are some sites like change.org, care2 etc.,.

    Had I know more about US laws, I would have definitely helped you :-/
    If you need any help other than things that relate to US laws (like preparing the body of petition or moral support or whatever it is!), feel free to ask me...


    Thanks.

    I contacted an organization, I am currently waiting for them to get back to me.

    I thought about going public, but I think that's the last thing I should do to protect myself. I think if I apply for asylum in the regular way and present my case correctly, they will accept my request.

    LGBT from Mexico and Brazil have been granted asylum before and they don't have the worst record in LGBT rights. I think they should find me eligible considering the death penalty and the famous homophobic culture/government in my place of birth.
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    Mar 07, 2013 7:19 PM GMT
    metta8 saidIt might be a good idea to contact a representative. Being that you are in a Southern State, I'm not so sure that it would be a good idea to contact one there.

    I know that California Congresswoman Judy Chu is working on immigration right now. You might want to contact her office and see if they can give you advice. She is very GLBT friendly. She is not the only one you can contact. But it might be a good place to start.

    http://chu.house.gov/

    In the mean time, if I was you, I would stay in school for as long as possible unless you get a company that is willing to sponsor you (I'm not sure if that is the correct terminology). Just make sure to always have a backup plan, just in case. If I could not stay in this country, I would find another that was willing to take you, rather than going back to your home country.


    Thank you again.

    Do you think I should contact people before applying for asylum? Because I think their advice will be that I should file for asylum.

    I have been told that I need to prove that I am gay, and my country of origin is dangerous for me and I was told, by this organization that I talked to, that the latter is easy. Proving my homosexuality is something that I need to do through explanation and describing what I have been through in a letter and the interview. The lawyer can be very helpful with that.

    I can extend my education for another year, but the problem with that is I won't have a tuition waiver or financial support from the school (or any other sources).
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    Mar 07, 2013 7:22 PM GMT
    Anocxu saidI hope you find a way to work it out...

    It's 2013 and we still live in a world where sexuality can cost you your life.. icon_sad.gif


    Thank you, I hope so too. I am really sick and tired of the nightmares I see every night.
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    Mar 07, 2013 11:32 PM GMT
    Please keep us update! I wish you safety and success in your search!
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    Mar 07, 2013 11:35 PM GMT
    Lemme guess: you're from a religion of peace hellhole?
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    Mar 07, 2013 11:41 PM GMT
    You can definitely get political asylum.

    I helped my ex boyfriend get political asylum from his home country. It's a long-ish process but it can be done if you can demonstrate that your life is in danger if you're deported.
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    Mar 07, 2013 11:44 PM GMT
    I am not sure how you go about doing this, but I highly recommend you doing everything in your power to stay in the US. Try and get your green card or extend your visa until you figure things out. I am sure this is extremely difficult as you want to see and be with your family again but it is not safe for you back home. This is your one and only life, fight for it.
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    Mar 07, 2013 11:48 PM GMT
    Not sure where in the south you are, but can you apply for another advanced degree at the school where you're finishing up? It might give you the time you need to reach out to necessary contacts and get things rolling.
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    Mar 07, 2013 11:50 PM GMT
    How long have you been in the US and how old were you when you came?
    My aunt is an immigration attorney in Texas. I know a bit of the system.
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    Mar 08, 2013 1:23 AM GMT
    Incendiary saidLemme guess: you're from a religion of peace hellhole?


    Yes. I am from the middle east, if that's what you mean.

    Larkin saidYou can definitely get political asylum.

    I helped my ex boyfriend get political asylum from his home country. It's a long-ish process but it can be done if you can demonstrate that your life is in danger if you're deported.


    Was it political or for sexual orientation? Although both apply to my case.

    dcblue saidI am not sure how you go about doing this, but I highly recommend you doing everything in your power to stay in the US. Try and get your green card or extend your visa until you figure things out. I am sure this is extremely difficult as you want to see and be with your family again but it is not safe for you back home. This is your one and only life, fight for it.


    Thanks bud. I hope I can relate my situation correctly to the US government and they accept my request. Sad thing is I can't even talk about this with my family. I am hopeful one day they will understand.

    dayumm saidNot sure where in the south you are, but can you apply for another advanced degree at the school where you're finishing up? It might give you the time you need to reach out to necessary contacts and get things rolling.


    I could. But that would just postpone things. Also, as I have read, applying for asylum shouldn't be delayed much (from the time of entry) according to the regulations.
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    Mar 09, 2013 2:45 PM GMT
    may11 saidHow long have you been in the US and how old were you when you came?
    My aunt is an immigration attorney in Texas. I know a bit of the system.


    2 years.

    I sent you a second private message. Thanks
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    Mar 11, 2013 6:52 AM GMT
    Do we have any lawyers here?