Mexican Supreme Court: Homophobic language is not covered under freedom of expression

  • metta

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    Mar 07, 2013 3:01 AM GMT
    Mexican Supreme Court: Homophobic language is not covered under freedom of expression


    http://blabbeando.blogspot.com/2013/03/mexican-supreme-court-homophobic.html#.UTgC_ByF18G
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    Mar 07, 2013 3:07 AM GMT
    They don't call them "Sexicans" for nothing. icon_wink.gif

    Mexico has always been more accepting of gays than the US...except for a few rural areas.
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    Mar 07, 2013 3:20 AM GMT
    ^

    And Canada

    Canadian Supreme Court Rules Biblical Speech Opposing Homosexual Behavior is a ‘Hate Crime’

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3064741
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    Mar 07, 2013 3:25 AM GMT
    USA. A refuge for homophobes! Who Knew? icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 07, 2013 3:36 AM GMT
    Mexico is home to the largest American diaspora. Although granted most of them are retired expats. Maybe some gays too!
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    Mar 07, 2013 3:52 AM GMT
    Maricones! Ha
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    Mar 07, 2013 3:56 AM GMT
    Ugh.

    Again, one day you guys aren't going to like the people in power who get to decide what expression is illegal. Then you'll wish you'd said something now.
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    Mar 07, 2013 4:47 AM GMT
    Larkin saidUgh.

    Again, one day you guys aren't going to like the people in power who get to decide what expression is illegal. Then you'll wish you'd said something now.


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    Mar 07, 2013 5:06 AM GMT
    Larkin saidUgh.

    Again, one day you guys aren't going to like the people in power who get to decide what expression is illegal. Then you'll wish you'd said something now.


    +1
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    Mar 07, 2013 5:07 AM GMT
    dayumm said
    Larkin saidUgh.

    Again, one day you guys aren't going to like the people in power who get to decide what expression is illegal. Then you'll wish you'd said something now.


    Campfield 2020! icon_lol.gif


    I maintain that it's a specific circumstance involving a marginalized group, sometimes marginalized violently, that has recently been granted the legal status of equal.

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    Mar 07, 2013 12:26 PM GMT
    People aren't homophobic--they're heterosexual supremecists. Plain and simple. If they didn't think they were superior to homosexuals, equal rights would be a no brainer. Time to call a spade, a spade.
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    Mar 07, 2013 12:35 PM GMT
    redsoxfan791 saidPeople aren't homophobic--they're heterosexual supremecists. Plain and simple. If they didn't think they were superior to homosexuals, equal rights would be a no brainer. Time to call a spade, a spade.


    hmm, never thought of it in that sense...very insightful man.
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    Mar 07, 2013 12:42 PM GMT
    sammy_asare said
    redsoxfan791 saidPeople aren't homophobic--they're heterosexual supremecists. Plain and simple. If they didn't think they were superior to homosexuals, equal rights would be a no brainer. Time to call a spade, a spade.


    hmm, never thought of it in that sense...very insightful man.


    Very few people are actually afraid of gay people. They might be uncomfortable gay culture or think homosexuality it immoral, but they don't fear it. Perhaps the only excoetions woukd be closeted men and women who fear admitting they aren't heterosexual.

    The term homophobic is outdated and inaccurate. Time to change the term yo what it really should be.
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    Mar 07, 2013 12:43 PM GMT
    redsoxfan791 saidPeople aren't homophobic--they're heterosexual supremecists. Plain and simple. If they didn't think they were superior to homosexuals, equal rights would be a no brainer. Time to call a spade, a spade.


    hmm, never thought of it in that sense...very insightful man.
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    Mar 07, 2013 12:53 PM GMT
    homophobia is a symptom of a much deeper problem of patriarchy and misogyny.

    Like how when a man and woman gets married, the woman takes the man's last name.

    for the most part, we live in a society that makes straight males #1 - and everybody else second place.

    Society has this conception, probably based on some accuracy, that a straight male is this big bad scary beast in which we all should be afraid of him. We should listen to him simply because he is straight. All our presidents so far have been straight males. Closeted gays don't really count.

    If you want to attack the root of all this, don't bring homosexuality into it as that's just a symptom. Instead, attack the very notion and ideal that a straight man should be in charge of everything for the sole reason of straightness.

    And we wonder why gay men eroticize straight men. Jesus Christ, how could you blame them? A lot of gay blogs attack gay men for doing this, as if they aren't influenced by culture and society as we all are. Don't attack or blame the victim, attack and blame the perps. Why are straight men so insecure that they have to want power and be in charge above all else? Keep asking those questions and don't let them turn it into an in-fighting thing and we just might change things for the better.
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    thegaymessiah saidhomophobia is a symptom of a much deeper problem of patriarchy and misogyny.

    Like how when a man and woman gets married, the woman takes the man's last name.

    for the most part, we live in a society that makes straight males #1 - and everybody else second place.

    Society has this conception, probably based on some accuracy, that a straight male is this big bad scary beast in which we all should be afraid of him. We should listen to him simply because he is straight. All our presidents so far have been straight males. Closeted gays don't really count.

    If you want to attack the root of all this, don't bring homosexuality into it as that's just a symptom. Instead, attack the very notion and ideal that a straight man should be in charge of everything for the sole reason of straightness.

    And we wonder why gay men eroticize straight men. Jesus Christ, how could you blame them? A lot of gay blogs attack gay men for doing this, as if they aren't influenced by culture and society as we all are. Don't attack or blame the victim, attack and blame the perps. Why are straight men so insecure that they have to want power and be in charge above all else? Keep asking those questions and don't let them turn it into an in-fighting thing and we just might change things for the better.


    Hmmm...a lot of the straight men I know LOVE being bossed around and dominated...
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    Mar 07, 2013 1:01 PM GMT
    redsoxfan791 saidPeople aren't homophobic--they're heterosexual supremecists. Plain and simple. If they didn't think they were superior to homosexuals, equal rights would be a no brainer. Time to call a spade, a spade.

    +1
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    Mar 07, 2013 1:32 PM GMT
    Larkin saidUgh.

    Again, one day you guys aren't going to like the people in power who get to decide what expression is illegal. Then you'll wish you'd said something now.



    +10000

    It's the most objectionable and reprehensible speech that needs the most protection. Otherwise, our freedom of speech doesn't mean anything.

    If someone believes that gays are evil, women belong in the kitchen, black people are intellectually inferior to whites and Jews control the media, then that person is obviously wrong - but they still should have the right to stand on a street corner and share their views, make a website stating their views, write books, etc.


    Additionally, banning this kind of speech isn't going to make it go away. On the contrary, by banning homophobes from speaking out, all you're doing is fostering in them this martyr complex where they think they are being specifically persecuted for spreading the truth/God's word/whatever. And this is just going to make them hold onto their beliefs *even more.* The only way to eradicate this kind of thinking is to let them preach freely and to let intelligent people rebut them until they just wind up humiliating themselves.
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    Mar 07, 2013 2:25 PM GMT
    I just re-read the article and it appears Mexico took it a lot further than Canada did. Perhaps a little too far, but hey, it's their country and an experiment we can all watch and learn from. Over the next while we'll be able to see whether they've opened a can of worms or helped.
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    Mar 07, 2013 2:27 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidThey don't call them "Sexicans" for nothing. icon_wink.gif

    Mexico has always been more accepting of gays than the US...except for a few rural areas.

    never been to the US but Mexico is still homophobic....
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    Mar 07, 2013 2:37 PM GMT
    Larkin saidUgh.

    Again, one day you guys aren't going to like the people in power who get to decide what expression is illegal. Then you'll wish you'd said something now.


    absurd argument. Let´s attack positive laws in case someone makes a negative law.
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    Mar 07, 2013 10:54 PM GMT
    GonzoTheGreat said
    Larkin saidUgh.

    Again, one day you guys aren't going to like the people in power who get to decide what expression is illegal. Then you'll wish you'd said something now.


    absurd argument. Let´s attack positive laws in case someone makes a negative law.


    It's only a "positive law" in your opinion because it benefits you. Notions of "positive" or "negative" are arbitrary as there are plenty who'd find this law negative. In principle, a law banning homophobic speech is no different than a law banning criticism of the government.
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    Mar 08, 2013 12:36 AM GMT
    redsoxfan791 saidPeople aren't homophobic--they're heterosexual supremacists. Plain and simple. If they didn't think they were superior to homosexuals, equal rights would be a no brainer. Time to call a spade, a spade.


    Chicken or egg.

    Could be their unresolved fear is what made them feel supreme, not unlike damaged self-esteem overcompensating with an inflated ego.

    Of the many horrible things an asinine xcousin once said to me while she was incorporating her new found new age religious views into her limited vision was this little heterosupremacisthorseshit she laid on me: "You're only gay because when you died last time you didn't stay dead long enough to process into a heterosexual before reincarnating again.

    So she thought she'd covered her sorry ass by indicating that my sexuality was natural and determined not just by but before birth, but she couldn't help but to interject the sense of self satisfaction she thinks she gets out of being a heterosexual and that she's certain is denied me.

    I guess she sees us like raw cookie dough only it's her thinking that's half-baked.

    As to the Mexican Court's ruling, I'm a little confused. Does this mean no more dirty talk during sex?
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    Mar 08, 2013 12:39 AM GMT
    theantijock saidAs to the Mexican Court's ruling, I'm a little confused. Does this mean no more dirty talk during sex?


    More like no Dirty Sanchez icon_lol.gif