Blue Civil War: The Battle for California

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    Mar 07, 2013 6:03 PM GMT
    http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/03/06/blue-civil-war-the-battle-for-california/

    The most important political battle in America today isn’t the much-ballyhooed battle for the soul of the GOP. It is the blue civil war, pitting key elements of the Democratic coalition against one another as the old social model fails and the growth curve of rising blue model costs runs up against fiscal limits. Blue model policies, whatever their merits, don’t generate the revenue that can support blue model institutions and methods, and when those shortfalls appear, the coalition divides. It’s happened in Wisconsin, it’s happened in Indiana; it’s happened in Michigan and it is happening in California.

    The Battle of San Diego is now in full swing. Last summer, voters there approved Prop. B, a ballot measure to reform a pension system whose cost had quintupled in 12 years, eating up revenue for other activities. As politicians struggled to pay off the pension obligations, libraries closed their doors and roads deteriorated. Voters had enough. No longer would they accept service cuts (or tax hikes) to pay to keep unionized public employees in the lifestyle to which they had grown accustomed.

    The unions are striking back. A few weeks ago, the Public Employment Relations Board, a quasi-judicial administrative agency for public employees, ruled that “the city failed to negotiate in good faith with its public employee unions before Proposition B was placed on the ballot,” as a local news station reported. In other words, unions believe they should have veto power over which options are put before the voters.
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    Mar 07, 2013 6:18 PM GMT
    ROFL, SB and a few others look mighty stupid about now. How nice of you to point out the fallacy of 'liberal hens'. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Mar 07, 2013 6:25 PM GMT
    meninlove said ROFL, SB and a few others look mighty stupid about now. How nice of you to point out the fallacy of 'liberal hens'. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif


    And yet you repeatedly prove his point. icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 07, 2013 6:36 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidIf this is some sort of fantasy that California is going to flip to red because of some invented war between blue factions, what it proves has nothing to do with meninlove----it proves that the Ridiot's always-slender grasp of reality is slipping even further.


    Who is claiming that it will flip to red? Sorry the issue here isn't my grasp of reading, but apparently your ability to read.
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    Mar 07, 2013 6:42 PM GMT
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    Aristoshark saidIf this is some sort of fantasy that California is going to flip to red because of some invented war between blue factions, what it proves has nothing to do with meninlove----it proves that the Ridiot's always-slender grasp of reality is slipping even further.


    Who is claiming that it will flip to red? Sorry the issue here isn't my grasp of reading, but apparently your ability to read.

    Don't play any dumber than usual. The clear implication when you post these sorts of items is that "the end is near" for blue-ism. Of course, as I've said a million times, you are handicapped in discussing US politics by two major impediments:

    1. You're in a foreign country.
    2. You're a fucking moron.


    Er ... again, if you bother reading the above, it's a civil war within the blue. Too bad you have such a loose grasp for detail.
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    Mar 07, 2013 6:50 PM GMT


    "it's a civil war within the blue."


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    Doltish post is doltish. Blue civil war, lol. It's what the right wing sheeples don't do, but are slowly discovering (regarding gay marriage for example) that they CAN do.

    Obviously Riddler is shocked that the blue Party he apparently thinks marches in a lock-step, surprise, surprise...doesn't!
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    Mar 07, 2013 6:51 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    "it's a civil war within the blue."


    icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    Doltish post is doltish. Blue civil war, lol. It's what the right wing sheeples don't do, but are slowly discovering (regarding gay marriage for example) that they CAN do.

    Obviously Riddler is shocked that the blue Party he apparently thinks marches in a lock-step, surprise, surprise...doesn't!


    "Doltish post is doltish". Quite. Oh meninlove, please don't change. icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 07, 2013 6:59 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    meninlove said

    "it's a civil war within the blue."


    icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    Doltish post is doltish. Blue civil war, lol. It's what the right wing sheeples don't do, but are slowly discovering (regarding gay marriage for example) that they CAN do.

    Obviously Riddler is shocked that the blue Party he apparently thinks marches in a lock-step, surprise, surprise...doesn't!


    "Doltish post is doltish". Quite. Oh meninlove, please don't change. icon_wink.gif


    For now I won't as many others no longer bother with you, but I have more pity, being a compassionate sort of fellow. .
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    Mar 07, 2013 7:01 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    riddler78 said
    meninlove said

    "it's a civil war within the blue."


    icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    Doltish post is doltish. Blue civil war, lol. It's what the right wing sheeples don't do, but are slowly discovering (regarding gay marriage for example) that they CAN do.

    Obviously Riddler is shocked that the blue Party he apparently thinks marches in a lock-step, surprise, surprise...doesn't!


    "Doltish post is doltish". Quite. Oh meninlove, please don't change. icon_wink.gif


    For now I won't as many others no longer bother with you, but I have more pity, being a compassionate sort of fellow. .


    And I welcome your compassion and return it in kind icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 07, 2013 7:03 PM GMT

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    *watches Riddler do the blissful Dance Of The Dense*
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    Mar 07, 2013 7:16 PM GMT
    meninlove said
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    *watches Riddler do the blissful Dance Of The Dense*

    LMAO! He claims to be one of yours now (emphasis on the claims), so have fun playing with him, cat & mouse (or some other rodent). He knows nothing about the US, and now he knows nothing about Canada. At least he's consistent.
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    Mar 07, 2013 7:22 PM GMT
    meninlove said
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    *watches Riddler do the blissful Dance Of The Dense*


    Oh your wishful thinking abounds icon_wink.gif