Pope Idol: The top 7 and their stance on gay rights

  • metta

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    Mar 08, 2013 5:42 PM GMT
    Pope Idol: The top 7 and their stance on gay rights

    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/pope-idol-top-7-and-their-stance-gay-rights080313
  • metta

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    Mar 09, 2013 3:03 AM GMT
    Sex abuse victims list 'dirty dozen' papal candidates

    ""We feel no current Vatican 'insider' has the will to truly 'clean house' in the Vatican and elsewhere,'" Mr Clohessy said in a statement."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/9914186/Sex-abuse-victims-list-dirty-dozen-papal-candidates.html
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    Mar 09, 2013 3:39 AM GMT

    "Turkson holds extreme views on gay marriage and ‘alternative lifestyles.’ He has caused controversy by equating homosexuality with child abuse."




    That's appropriate i guess... because all of the Homosexuals I know equate catholic priests with child abuse.





    (I don't know why i started reading this thinking there would be a candidate that was even somewhat pro-gay rights)
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    Mar 09, 2013 3:51 AM GMT
    Davis510 said
    "Turkson holds extreme views on gay marriage and ‘alternative lifestyles.’ He has caused controversy by equating homosexuality with child abuse."




    That's appropriate i guess... because all of the Homosexuals I know equate catholic priests with child abuse.
    Equating Catholic priests with child abuse is totally fair, since that's what they're most known for.

    Gays are known for being physically and emotionally attracted to people of the same gender.

    It's totally different.
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    Mar 09, 2013 4:21 AM GMT
    Let them go extreme. They'll only continue to alienate the common parishioner, which will ultimately result in break-away groups like an American Catholic Church. Such an organization would likely stand a better chance of embracing a diverse community.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 09, 2013 5:23 PM GMT
    search4more saidLet them go extreme. They'll only continue to alienate the common parishioner, which will ultimately result in break-away groups like an American Catholic Church. Such an organization would likely stand a better chance of embracing a diverse community.
    The more extreme the Roman Catholic Church becomes, the more people will break away in most developed countries. Secularism will most likely increase throughout the developed first world.
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    Mar 09, 2013 5:35 PM GMT
    search4more saidLet them go extreme. They'll only continue to alienate the common parishioner, which will ultimately result in break-away groups like an American Catholic Church. Such an organization would likely stand a better chance of embracing a diverse community.


    Interesting point. Kind of like the Republican Party in the U.S. since the last election. (Although a few of its members are wisely "evolving" recently.)

    Anyhow . . . we can be reasonably certain that the next Pope will be an anti-gay bigot. But you know what? While the role and sway of any Pope is important, don't overlook the popular church comprised of the rank-and-file faithful. For example, a recent poll shows that 54% of American Catholics back gay marriage.

    Read here:

    http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/majority-catholics-support-gay-marriage/story?id=18684305

    These kinds of positive developments are every bit as important as the views of whoever ascends the papal throne.
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    Mar 09, 2013 5:45 PM GMT
    Davis510 said
    That's appropriate i guess... because all of the Homosexuals I know equate catholic priests with child abuse.


    It appears those priests who weren't actually abusing children were busy covering it up.

    Scottish priests 'out of control sexually', says former abuse adviser
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9918880/Scottish-priests-out-of-control-sexually-says-former-abuse-adviser.html
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    Mar 09, 2013 5:48 PM GMT
    search4more saidLet them go extreme. They'll only continue to alienate the common parishioner, which will ultimately result in break-away groups like an American Catholic Church. Such an organization would likely stand a better chance of embracing a diverse community.

    +1
  • ASHDOD

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    Mar 09, 2013 5:57 PM GMT
    with thouse candidates ,seems the catholic churce is dumed, although i have no simpathy for such a conservative anti gay organisation, i feel a bit sad that the oldest organisation of the world that still exist is not capble of moving with the times and start a new free humanitarian open to all period.

    as a tourist guide i worked a lot with catholics ,especialy from south america and i noticed that 10-12 years ago most of the groups were catholic ,nowdays most of them are avangelist churches, they are loosing south america ,their biggest pool of belivers.
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    Mar 09, 2013 6:04 PM GMT
    what most outsiders don't realize is that the "conservative" nature of The Church is what attracts ppl from Latin America, Africa, and Asia. it also helps give a "shelter in the storm" 2 many North Americans and Europeans. keep hearing that The Church is losing members, yet the percentages of ppl saying they r RC remains...steady (cf. every Catholic bashing thread on RJ).
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 09, 2013 6:05 PM GMT
    ASHDOD saidwith thouse candidates ,seems the catholic churce is dumed, although i have no simpathy for such a conservative anty gay organisation, i feel a bit sad that the oldest organisation of the world that still exist is not capble of moving with the times and start a new free humanitarian open to all period.

    as a tourist guide i worked a lot with catholics ,especialy from south america and i noticed that 10-12 years ago most of the groups were catholic ,nowdays most of them are avangelist churches, they are loosing south america ,their biggest pool of belivers.
    Most evangelical churches are more primitive minded and bigoted than the Roman Catholic Church.
  • him5

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    Mar 09, 2013 6:10 PM GMT
    What a shame the Catholic Church could not understand the mission of Christ on Earth. Have any of you been to mass lately? No to women, No to gays, No to Married priests....what are they so afraid of? Wasn't Jesus the one who said Love Your God above all and love thy neighbor as thy self. Aren't we all neighbors on this planet? Love is what they have forgotten..

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    Mar 09, 2013 6:18 PM GMT
    Princess Leia said it the best:
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 09, 2013 6:21 PM GMT
    samatthegym saidWhat a shame the Catholic Church could not understand the mission of Christ on Earth. Have any of you been to mass lately? No to women, No to gays, No to Married priests....what are they so afraid of? Wasn't Jesus the one who said Love Your God above all and love thy neighbor as thy self. Aren't we all neighbors on this planet? Love is what they have forgotten..

    The right wing extremists have taken over and poisoned the Roman Catholic Church with their bigotry, hypocrisy, and corruption. Love and compassion for others is totally irrelevant. It is very sad what has happened to the RCC and it appears that nothing is really going to change in the forseeable future.