Protect the right to marry. Vote NO on 8, California

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    Oct 11, 2008 3:44 AM GMT
    Today was bittersweet. It was a wonderful feeling to watch the news unfold during the day that Connecticut is now the third state to recognize the rights of gays to wed. I remember how euphoric I felt the day that the California Supreme Court bestowed that right to gays in my state. But now we are very close to losing that right; we are very close to having inequality enshrined in the Constitution. This is an awful, despairing feeling. That people will sink this low makes my mind reel.

    The struggle for human rights and equality is a struggle that should happen every day. The struggle is Now; the time is Now. The economy, the Administration, global stability, environmental sustainability - these are all important issues. Yet equal rights should never be a lesser issue, it should never be put off to another day, another election, another year, another insidious campaign to restrict the sense of what it means to be and to feel human, to be free and equal - campaigns based on spurious morality, ignorance, fear.

    Californians: please, make your voices heard. Do not let the Churches dictate. And to everyone around the country: please, support us, and make your own voices heard.

    Anything less is not equal.

    (If you're unclear of what's at stake: Gays in California HAVE the right to wed; we can be married. Prop 8 will amend the state constitution to strip us of that right.)

    http://noonprop8.com/home
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    Oct 11, 2008 4:27 AM GMT
    I will vote no on prop. 8 to leave the option open for us all.
    Marriage should be available for everyone. Those who use the excuse of saying that it would break the sanctity of traditional marriage need to come to terms with the times. We do not live in the Middle Ages anymore.

    Just because something is undesirable doesn't mean it would not lead to progress. The Church and its supporters need to be more diverse.
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    Oct 11, 2008 4:48 AM GMT
    I just happened to get an email from Credo/Working Assets citing recent polls that suggest more Californians are now supporting Prop 8. Read below, and consider making a donation to the campaign:

    If you thought equal marriage in California was a done deal, think again. Prop. 8 would take away equal rights, which is why CREDO is a committed opponent of Prop. 8.

    A new poll by KPIX, San Francisco's CBS affiliate, shows Prop. 8 winning by a 5 point margin — 47 to 42 percent. California is poised to deny same sex couples the right to marry. Another poll from the well-respected firm Lake Research shows Prop. 8 winning by 47%-43%.

    Equal rights are in trouble in California. Why? Because Prop. 8's backers have now raised over $18 million — $7 million in the past five weeks alone.

    What are they using this money to do? Flood our airwaves with abject bigotry. Maybe you've seen their latest ad: a young girl comes home from school proclaiming, "Mommy, Mommy, today I learned I could marry another princess!" Rather than tell her daughter, "I hope you marry someone wonderful when you grow up, no matter what gender that person is," the mother is horrified and a stern man comes onscreen with fearmongering propaganda that disparages equal marriage.

    These ads may be stomach-turning, but the fact is, they're working. And we only have a few weeks left to fight back.

    CREDO is a proud supporter of equal rights for all Californians, That's why we're spending time and money to fight to defeat Prop. 8.

    We know that times are tough right now — we're in the middle of a financial crisis, and that's left most folks without a lot of money. Right wing extremists with deep pockets are counting on us to let this fight slide. If there's one thing we can't afford, it's to sell the rights of Californians down the river.

    Please Vow to Vote No on Prop. 8, and if you can, consider donating time or money to the campaign. Together, we can help to ensure equality for all of California's families.

    Thank you for working to protect equality for all.

    Leah Donahey, Campaign Manager
    CREDO Action from Working Assets
  • metta

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    Oct 13, 2008 6:48 PM GMT
    Make sure to get those No On Prop 8 Yard Signs up before Halloween....I normally get at least 500 kids with big groups of parents to my home. My sign is up as well as my removable bumper stickers (which I have never had a bumper sticker on my car before. icon_biggrin.gif

    Any questions....I'm ready...

    You can get your signs and bumper stickers on the http://www.noonprop8.com web site...just click on the store.







    A list of people without a heart can be found on this web page:
    http://www.californiansagainsthate.com/dishonorRoll.html



    All of these newspapers have spoken out against Prop 8:
    The Los Angeles Times
    The San Francisco Chronicle
    The San Diego Union-Tribune
    The Orange County Register
    The Sacramento Bee
    The San Jose Mercury News
    The New York Times
    La Opinión
    La Prensa
    The Redding Record-Searchlight
    The Ventura Star
    The Vacaville Register
    The Desert Sun
    The Napa Valley Register
    The Tracy Press
    The Contra Costa Times
    The Santa Cruz Sentinel
    The Milpitas Post
    The San Gabrial Valley Tribune
    The Pasadena Star-News
    The Press-Enterprise

    Here is one that supports a Yes vote:
    Paradise Post http://www.paradisepost.com/opinion/ci_10690147
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    Oct 14, 2008 10:47 AM GMT
    This is heart breaking to me.

    I simply do not understand the level of ignorance that is required to think:

    a). That this will affect "traditional" marriage.
    b). What traditional marriage is:
    1. Wife was a property term (it comes from the sanskrit for female gentalia)
    2. It was for survival and basically a business decision, not for love until VERY recent.
    3. Much of what makes marriage palatable for women in marriage today came about because of "radicals" pushing for rights for women, such as divorce, and so much more.
    Basically there is no such thing as traditional marriage.
    c). That it is righteous and proper and good to tell people what to do that has no affect on you.

    Maybe Im not making any sense, but it makes me feel helpless and sad to read about these people behind prop 8 and their corrupt thinking and messages.
  • metta

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    Oct 14, 2008 5:03 PM GMT
    The last day to register to vote in California is October 20th. For more information, please see the following web page:

    http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_vr.htm

  • TallGWMvballe...

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    Oct 14, 2008 5:37 PM GMT
    On October 11, 2008 I attended the legal wedding of my last meaningful LTR.

    Although I was torn up inside, cried a bit there and of course at night when I got home, the beauty of the ceremony and the fact that they could declare their love and commitment publicly and legally is something that NEEDS to remain available to those who want it.

    Please talk to all your friends for this important issue.
    Once again we are being attacked by the haters.