Queen Elizabeth fights for gay rights: Monarch makes historic pledge on discrimination

  • metta

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    Mar 10, 2013 2:56 AM GMT
    Queen fights for gay rights: Monarch makes historic pledge on discrimination


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290824/Queen-fights-gay-rights-Monarch-makes-historic-pledge-discrimination-hints-Kate-DOES-girl-means-equal-rights-throne.html
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    Mar 10, 2013 3:08 AM GMT
    Unintended saidHer mother, the late Queen Elizabeth and one of the most important women of the 20th Century said "without gays, we would be reduced to self-service!"


    The late Queen Mother was a support of gays long before it was fashionable, and her households were full of old queens. her Daughter HM Queen Elizabeth has followed in her mothers footsteps by doing the same.icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 10, 2013 3:25 AM GMT
    But the Queen never mentions sexual orientation or gay people ....read the article, I'm confused as to how they are interpreting this as some statement of support for gay rights from the Queen, when it apparently isn't, only interpreted by some as implied support based on her opposition to discrimination on "other grounds" as if "other grounds" means "sexual orientation". icon_confused.gif
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    Mar 10, 2013 3:33 AM GMT
    Gay rights and equality are explicitly omitted out of deference to commonwealth countries with draconian laws against gaysz that doesn't seem very supportive on her or the commonwealth's part. They cave before the worst discriminators.
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    Mar 10, 2013 4:11 AM GMT
    Stan24 saidBut the Queen never mentions sexual orientation or gay people ....read the article, I'm confused as to how they are interpreting this as some statement of support for gay rights from the Queen, when it apparently isn't, only interpreted by some as implied support based on her opposition to discrimination on "other grounds" as if "other grounds" means "sexual orientation". icon_confused.gif


    Thats because it's not a charter, exclusive to us homosexuals, or anti gay discrimination. It's a charter that aims to tackle all discrimination.

    Long live the Queen.. Elizabeth has seen Popes and Presidents come and go, yet Elizabeth goes on.
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    Mar 10, 2013 4:18 AM GMT
    tru_blu_aussie said
    Stan24 saidBut the Queen never mentions sexual orientation or gay people ....read the article, I'm confused as to how they are interpreting this as some statement of support for gay rights from the Queen, when it apparently isn't, only interpreted by some as implied support based on her opposition to discrimination on "other grounds" as if "other grounds" means "sexual orientation". icon_confused.gif


    Thats because it's not a charter, exclusive to us homosexuals, or anti gay discrimination. It's a charter that aims to tackle all discrimination.

    Long live the Queen.. Elizabeth has seen Popes and Presidents come and go, yet Elizabeth goes on.


    I have also seen Popes and Presidents come and go....does that make me special too? icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 10, 2013 6:32 AM GMT
    No. It makes you a Queen.
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    Mar 10, 2013 6:40 AM GMT
    protestantism sorry Anglican church has in some way or the other has supported homosexuality

    Elton John is the first most loved English gay man the English empire
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    Mar 10, 2013 6:41 AM GMT
    Zeriel saidprotestantism sorry Anglican church has in some way or the other has supported homosexuality

    Elton John is the first most loved English gay man the English empire


    The next loved gay man is Cheryl Cole.
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    Mar 10, 2013 7:47 AM GMT
    third must be the group one direction & fourth Simon cowel & Daniel Rad
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    Mar 10, 2013 8:31 AM GMT
    English people and their obsession with royalty. Lets hop into 21st century. I love being an American
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    Mar 10, 2013 10:23 AM GMT
    carterp91 saidEnglish people and their obsession with royalty. Lets hop into 21st century. I love being an American




    your only jealous because you don't have any history
    Come back in 500 years time you can join our club
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    Mar 10, 2013 11:36 AM GMT
    Stan24 said
    tru_blu_aussie said
    Stan24 saidBut the Queen never mentions sexual orientation or gay people ....read the article, I'm confused as to how they are interpreting this as some statement of support for gay rights from the Queen, when it apparently isn't, only interpreted by some as implied support based on her opposition to discrimination on "other grounds" as if "other grounds" means "sexual orientation". icon_confused.gif


    Thats because it's not a charter, exclusive to us homosexuals, or anti gay discrimination. It's a charter that aims to tackle all discrimination.

    Long live the Queen.. Elizabeth has seen Popes and Presidents come and go, yet Elizabeth goes on.


    I have also seen Popes and Presidents come and go....does that make me special too? icon_lol.gif


    But not as many as Elizabeth, who has been in her job for sixty years, and out lived many Popes and presidents too. You have just started life, and I doubt you will ever be in the same job for 65 years; thus no. Not to say you do not have special needsicon_wink.gif
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    Mar 10, 2013 11:37 AM GMT
    AeroNalex saidNo. It makes you a Queen.


    that would be a queen.icon_wink.gificon_lol.gif
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    Mar 10, 2013 11:39 AM GMT
    eastlondonguy said
    carterp91 saidEnglish people and their obsession with royalty. Lets hop into 21st century. I love being an American




    your only jealous because you don't have any history
    Come back in 500 years time you can join our club

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    I can tell you I would not give up my life Down Under to call America home; nor would my American husband, as he knows how much better off he is down here.
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    Mar 10, 2013 11:43 AM GMT
    tru_blu_aussie said

    But not as many as Elizabeth, who has been in her job for sixty years, and out lived many Popes and presidents too. You have just started life, and I doubt you will ever be in the same job for 65 years; thus no. Not to say you do not have special needsicon_wink.gif

    Only because one is very competitive and wants to beat Victorias record!
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    Mar 10, 2013 11:45 AM GMT
    Jamaica isnt going to be happy about this!
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    Mar 10, 2013 11:49 AM GMT
    FitGwynedd saidJamaica isnt going to be happy about this!

    Ain't that the truth! Good example of archaic British Empire laws that have never been changed in many current 'Commonwealth' nations.
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    Mar 10, 2013 11:56 AM GMT
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    FitGwynedd saidJamaica isnt going to be happy about this!

    Ain't that the truth! Good example of archaic British Empire laws that have never been changed in many current 'Commonwealth' nations.


    Jamaica either needs to be kicked out of the commonwealth or invaded and be forced to comply with human rights laws.
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    Mar 10, 2013 12:10 PM GMT
    FitGwynedd said
    ozgreenguy said
    FitGwynedd saidJamaica isnt going to be happy about this!

    Ain't that the truth! Good example of archaic British Empire laws that have never been changed in many current 'Commonwealth' nations.


    Jamaica either needs to be kicked out of the commonwealth or invaded and be forced to comply with human rights laws.


    Why pick on Jamaica?
    Commonwealth nations where homosexuality is a criminal offence (according to Wikipedia)

    Africa

    Botswana
    Cameroon
    Gambia
    Ghana
    Kenya
    Lesotho
    Malawi
    Namibia
    Nigeria
    Sierra Leone
    Swaziland
    Tanzania
    Uganda
    Zambia



    Asia

    Bangladesh
    Brunei
    Malaysia
    Pakistan
    Seychelles
    Singapore
    Sri Lanka
    Oceania

    Kiribati
    Maldives
    Mauritius
    Nauru
    Papua New Guinea
    Samoa
    Solomon Islands
    Tonga
    Tuvalu



    Americas

    Antigua and Barbuda
    Barbados
    Belize
    Dominica
    Grenada
    Jamaica
    Guyana
    Saint Kitts and Nevis
    Saint Lucia
    Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
    Trinidad and Tobago

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    Mar 10, 2013 5:29 PM GMT
    ozgreenguy said
    FitGwynedd saidJamaica isnt going to be happy about this!

    Ain't that the truth! Good example of archaic British Empire laws that have never been changed in many current 'Commonwealth' nations.


    You know since you are so unhappy in the commonwealth of Australia. Instead of you smashing it apart, and breaking something that works very well; one is sure you would be more at home in the Republic of Russia, and you will also be able to hang with many comrades there too.

    Sad thing about change, progress does not always follow; just look at Russia.
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    Mar 10, 2013 5:44 PM GMT
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    tru_blu_aussie said

    But not as many as Elizabeth, who has been in her job for sixty years, and out lived many Popes and presidents too. You have just started life, and I doubt you will ever be in the same job for 65 years; thus no. Not to say you do not have special needsicon_wink.gif

    Only because one is very competitive and wants to beat Victoria's record!


    Well thats almost achieved! Now it's a sin in your book, to live longer than a previous generation.icon_rolleyes.gif

    long live our Queen and the Commonwealth of Australia, and Bless this Great Southern Land that the Australian republican ratbags, want to rip apart; why break something that works very well, just to "try" to fix it.
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    Mar 10, 2013 5:55 PM GMT
    tru_blu_aussie said
    ozgreenguy said
    tru_blu_aussie said

    But not as many as Elizabeth, who has been in her job for sixty years, and out lived many Popes and presidents too. You have just started life, and I doubt you will ever be in the same job for 65 years; thus no. Not to say you do not have special needsicon_wink.gif

    Only because one is very competitive and wants to beat Victoria's record!


    Well thats almost achieved! Now it's a sin in your book, to live longer than a previous generation.icon_rolleyes.gif

    long live our Queen and the Commonwealth of Australia, and Bless this Great Southern Land that the Australian republican ratbags, want to rip apart; why break something that works very well, just to "try" to fix it.


    when it comes down to it. Australia is really just a blip on the radar. Not really important on the world stage. Kind of goofy "pretend" country that has a cute little country-esque accent. Granted, it's a beautiful place (i've been).... and the people are for the most part.. nice. However, it also seems like they squabble over things like boat people and GST....and their queen...whether they are pro-queen or anti-queen..... who cares. She's not going to do anything for u personally. She's not gonna pay your bills. She's not gonna do shit for you personally. Why the admiration for some lady who was just born into this role? Big deal. She's a non-entity when it comes down to it.
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    Mar 10, 2013 9:21 PM GMT
    tru_blu_aussie said
    ozgreenguy said
    FitGwynedd saidJamaica isnt going to be happy about this!

    Ain't that the truth! Good example of archaic British Empire laws that have never been changed in many current 'Commonwealth' nations.


    You know since you are so unhappy in the commonwealth of Australia. Instead of you smashing it apart, and breaking something that works very well; one is sure you would be more at home in the Republic of Russia, and you will also be able to hang with many comrades there too.

    Sad thing about change, progress does not always follow; just look at Russia.


    I see the 'victom' is dishing out the usual vitriol aimed at me. Shouldn't you be tending to your royal shrine instead!
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    when it comes down to it. Australia is really just a blip on the radar. Not really important on the world stage. Kind of goofy "pretend" country that has a cute little country-esque accent. Granted, it's a beautiful place (i've been).... and the people are for the most part.. nice. However, it also seems like they squabble over things like boat people and GST....and their queen...whether they are pro-queen or anti-queen..... who cares. She's not going to do anything for u personally. She's not gonna pay your bills. She's not gonna do shit for you personally. Why the admiration for some lady who was just born into this role? Big deal. She's a non-entity when it comes down to it.


    I see Import has forgotten to take his nice pills today icon_sad.gif. Whilst I agree with the second part of your statement wholeheartedly, the first part seems to reek of the increasing inferiority that the US feels in comparison to its growing big brother China. Stop shitting on your close allies!