Violent Arrest Caught on Tape During Gay Pride, Victim Speaks

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    Mar 10, 2013 9:03 AM GMT
    wow, doesnt happen often at all, guy is small for cop to throw him like that, the guy has a suit, if it were america....think how much icon_confused.gif

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  • thadjock

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    Mar 10, 2013 6:50 PM GMT
    he's cute, i bet he gets alot of date offers from this.
  • SinfulWays

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    Mar 10, 2013 7:02 PM GMT
    WOW! I hate overly aggressive cops!!!
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    Mar 10, 2013 7:10 PM GMT
    Yeah...in cases like this, 99.9% of the time I'm with the cops. But this? icon_eek.gif
    Once that very tiny/wimpy/twink was in cuffs, there was NO justification for handling him that way!!! icon_mad.gif
    Doesn't matter what happened before this clip. He was cuffed. There was nothing he could have done to that cop, with that size difference, that warranted that kind of physical abuse once cuffed.

    (However, if the victim just would have shut his mouth, and did what he was told to do, then he would not have been head-planted the way he was.)

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    Mar 10, 2013 7:13 PM GMT
    I was disturbed by the video. I think the cop should at the very least be fired.
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    Mar 10, 2013 7:22 PM GMT
    It looked like he was trying to kick the police.

    If he didn't want to get arrested for assault, then maybe he shouldn't be kicking police.

    Common sense 101.
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    Mar 10, 2013 7:22 PM GMT
    We didn't really see why they threw him down at the 1:00 mark
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    Mar 10, 2013 7:41 PM GMT
    his friends yelled out his name because they knew he dun fucked up right before he is throwin to the ground. It's kinda funny his friend dances around the issue in the interview when it's clear that the story isn't as one-sided as it seems.
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    Mar 10, 2013 7:49 PM GMT
    Painted saidthe story isn't as one-sided as it seems.


    it never is,

    but the media always like to fashion the narrative to fit a neat package that can be wrapped up in the space between commercials.
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    Mar 10, 2013 7:51 PM GMT
    Painted saidhis friends yelled out his name because they knew he dun fucked up right before he is throwin to the ground. It's kinda funny his friend dances around the issue in the interview when it's clear that the story isn't as one-sided as it seems.
    Why that is true, this was police brutality. You don't go grabbing someone by the neck and slamming them into the ground. The police officer used too much force. He should have been tasered or maced. Not slammed to the ground when he is shirtless and not wearing a helmet icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 10, 2013 7:51 PM GMT
    That guy looks like Colby melvin, but damn is he cute or what? I just wanted to hug him and protect him when he fell in the video
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    Mar 10, 2013 7:53 PM GMT
    Just for everyone's information, the police do not care if you are guilty or not. Their job is not to argue with you over your guilt. Their job is to bring you forth to a court of law so that they determine if a crime has been committed. If you don't respect the process (since we need laws to protect society and ourselves) then things happen the hard way.

    The guy shouldn't have been mouthing off at the police, resisting arrest, or assaulting them.

    This has nothing to do with gay bashing, or police brutality.. It's idiots like that that make the fight for civil rights even harder. You act like an idiot you should be treated like one.
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    Mar 10, 2013 7:55 PM GMT
    The first time he was thrown to the ground may or may not have been justified, but the second time in the video was brutality.

    Also, they were trying to film the officer's name badge. I know it was blurred in the video, but his walkie talkie chord was covering it, too - which I think was intentional so that it would be obscured.

    I can see fault on both sides. In the parts we could see, he wasn't being violent. The officer was large enough that he could have taken him into custody without throwing him to the ground like that.
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    Mar 10, 2013 7:57 PM GMT
    Painted saidJust for everyone's information, the police do not care if you are guilty or not. Their job is not to argue with you over your guilt. Their job is to bring you forth to a court of law so that they determine if a crime has been committed. If you don't respect the process (since we need laws to protect society and ourselves) then things happen the hard way.

    The guy shouldn't have been mouthing off at the police, resisting arrest, or assaulting them.

    This has nothing to do with gay bashing, or police brutality.. It's idiots like that that make the fight for civil rights even harder. You act like an idiot you should be treated like one.
    Oh so if I did nothing wrong, and they assumed I did something wrong, I should just accept the fact I am being handcuffed and taking to prison? Okay! Really?

    Police brutality means if the police used excessive force. Hurting someone to the point where they are bleeding from the head and grabbing their neck is police brutality and is ILLEGAL!

    Also why do you think they were telling people to shut off the cameras? They knew they were in shit!
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    Mar 10, 2013 7:58 PM GMT
    What happened when the camera wasn't looking that caused the throw?
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    Mar 10, 2013 7:59 PM GMT
    Medjai saidWhat happened when the camera wasn't looking that caused the throw?
    He tickled a girl who he didn't know. And the girl actually didn't care, but the officer thought it was assault. When he approached the kid, he said it wasn't and it escalated from there.
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    Mar 10, 2013 8:01 PM GMT
    RadRTT said
    Medjai saidWhat happened when the camera wasn't looking that caused the throw?
    He tickled a girl who he didn't know. And the girl actually didn't care, but the officer thought it was assault. When he approached the kid, he said it wasn't and it escalated from there.


    That all happened in the 5 seconds the camera wasn't looking? I mean immediately before. There was a lot of blur, and it was tough to see what was happening as the camera was zoomedo n the ground...
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    Mar 10, 2013 8:03 PM GMT
    Medjai saidThat all happened in the 5 seconds the camera wasn't looking? I mean immediately before. There was a lot of blur, and it was tough to see what was happening as the camera was zoomedo n the ground...
    Oh, I thought you meant what lead up to the arrest. I don't know, but apparently he kicked or struggled with the police.
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    Mar 10, 2013 8:03 PM GMT
    Let's not be so presumptuous

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/settle-down-jamie-fresh-video-of-mardi-gras-incident/story-fncynjr2-1226593129329

    And he's got nice legs around 0:19
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    Mar 10, 2013 8:06 PM GMT
    whytehot saidLet's not be so presumptuous

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/settle-down-jamie-fresh-video-of-mardi-gras-incident/story-fncynjr2-1226593129329
    It has nothing do with whether he was right or wrong. He kicked the police officer and he was wrong. However, police, aren't allowed to use excessive force. Look at Jamie and look at the cop, there is a huge difference in size and strength. The cop was trying to show his power to call order. He should have either tasered or maced the kid.
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    Mar 10, 2013 8:06 PM GMT
    RadRTT saidOh so if I did nothing wrong, and they assumed I did something wrong, I should just accept the fact I am being handcuffed and taking to prison? Okay! Really?

    Police brutality means if the police used excessive force. Hurting someone to the point where they are bleeding from the head and grabbing their neck is police brutality and is ILLEGAL!

    Also why do you think they were telling people to shut off the cameras? They knew they were in shit!


    Yes. That's how the system works. They are not a court, and do not determine guilt. Resisting when innocent makes you guily of resisting arrest. If you're innocent things will clear themselves up.

    In this case, it is hard to determine excessive without knowing what is going on. Ths video is god awful for knowing what's going on, as are eyewitness testiminies. The water is really muddy here.

    Because they didn't want to be filmed? I prefer not to be as well...

    RadRTT saidOh, I thought you meant what lead up to the arrest. I don't know, but apparently he kicked or struggled with the police.


    Then that is procedure. A resisting or violent arrestee gets thrown to the ground...
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    Mar 10, 2013 8:07 PM GMT
    Oops
  • Medjai

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    Mar 10, 2013 8:08 PM GMT
    RadRTT said
    whytehot saidLet's not be so presumptuous

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/settle-down-jamie-fresh-video-of-mardi-gras-incident/story-fncynjr2-1226593129329
    It has nothing do with whether he was right or wrong. He kicked the police officer and he was wrong. However, police, aren't allowed to use excessive force. Look at Jamie and look at the cop, there is a huge difference in size and strength. The cop was trying to show his power to call order. He should have either tasered or maced the kid.


    You thing a taser or made would have been less damaging and painful? I'll take a throw into the ground any day over those.
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    Mar 10, 2013 8:08 PM GMT
    Medjai saidBecause they didn't want to be filmed? I prefer not to be as well...
    In Australia it is legal to film. After the first time they asked the camera man said I can film it is legal. They have the right, and they shouldn't have tried to get him to do shut it off.

    In the end if they didn't use excessive force, Jamie would be entirely in the wrong and the police would be in the right.
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    Mar 10, 2013 8:09 PM GMT
    Medjai saidYou thing a taser or made would have been less damaging and painful? I'll take a throw into the ground any day over those.
    You're a medical student. Re think that. icon_rolleyes.gif