Gay Astrology

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    Mar 10, 2013 11:43 PM GMT
    Alright so I've never been one for this kind of thing. I always thought it was just a bunch or lucky guesses and bullshit but I found out my sign the other day and I read about personality characteristics and a lot of it made sense. Inspired by this I went out to look in astrology in how it relates to gay men becaude I figured some signs have got to show themselves differently when the orientation is different and I could not find a lot of stuff on it. From what I could find it was either of three things: really helpful, not helpful at all or downright homophobic.

    Does anyone know of any good books I could read on this topic? Or does anyone else follow astrology and know a great deal and mind answering some questions for me? I don't feel like paying one of those readers because the only ones I could find where online and unless its Amazon or Dominos I don't pay for anything online.
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    Mar 11, 2013 4:18 AM GMT
    Also I wanted to ask if anyone knew if there were any tried and true indicators in someones chart that could point to someones orientation. I tried going on those forums but they use a lot of terms I don't really get.
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    Mar 11, 2013 4:20 AM GMT
    Read up on the Forer Effect. I think you may find it very relevant.
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    Mar 11, 2013 4:25 AM GMT
    Medjai saidRead up on the Forer Effect. I think you may find it very relevant.


    I just skimmed over a Wikipedia article on it and I can see where you are coming from but some personality profiles I read about my sign fit me to a tee. Idk I guess it depends on the person but it seems somewhat legit to me. I'd go to a professional reader if they weren't so damn expensive.
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    Mar 11, 2013 4:26 AM GMT
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Medjai saidRead up on the Forer Effect. I think you may find it very relevant.


    I just skimmed over a Wikipedia article on it and I can see where you are coming from but some personality profiles I read about my sign fit me to a tee. Idk I guess it depends on the person but it seems somewhat legit to me. I'd go to a professional reader if they weren't so damn expensive.


    "You have a great need for other people to like and admire you. You have a tendency to be critical of yourself. You have a great deal of unused capacity which you have not turned to your advantage. While you have some personality weaknesses, you are generally able to compensate for them. Your sexual adjustment has presented problems for you. Disciplined and self-controlled outside, you tend to be worrisome and insecure inside. At times you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing. You prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations. You pride yourself as an independent thinker and do not accept others' statements without satisfactory proof. You have found it unwise to be too frank in revealing yourself to others. At times you are extroverted, affable, sociable, while at other times you are introverted, wary, reserved. Some of your aspirations tend to be pretty unrealistic. Security is one of your major goals in life. "

    That fit you?
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    Mar 11, 2013 4:30 AM GMT
    Yes it does actually but I know you got that from the website.

    But some personality profiles really go in depth and some are more broad. I'd like more opinions and material but there seems to be a limited amount.
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    Mar 11, 2013 4:42 AM GMT
    Medjai saidRead up on the Forer Effect. I think you may find it very relevant.


    Ha ha... this is what I though of telling the OP but I don't know that this expression has a word 'Forer effect' till now when I looked up for it in Wikipedia!
    Next time when someone asks me about Astrology...I will definitely bring this word to them..."Do you know anything about Forer effect? if not, then Google it" instead of explaining whole!
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    Mar 11, 2013 4:56 AM GMT
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    Medjai saidRead up on the Forer Effect. I think you may find it very relevant.


    Ha ha... this is what I though of telling the OP but I don't know that this expression has a word 'Forer effect' till now when I looked up for it in Wikipedia!
    Next time when someone asks me about Astrology...I will definitely bring this word to them..."Do you know anything about Forer effect? if not, then Google it" instead of explaining whole!
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    http://gayboysguidetothezodiac.blogspot.com/2011/07/virgo-sign-of-healer.html?m=1


    For instance when I read this I think most of it synched up with me. Some of yiy didn't but this was the first one I read where I was like 'this shit is legit '. Now I'm not really. Someone who believes in the supernatural of anything but this seems credible. I read a few other sites and they seemed pretty accurate about me too. And there seems to be quite a lot of science involved in determining how what it means when certain planets are in line or rising or descending.
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    Mar 11, 2013 4:58 AM GMT
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Harry7785 said
    Medjai saidRead up on the Forer Effect. I think you may find it very relevant.


    Ha ha... this is what I though of telling the OP but I don't know that this expression has a word 'Forer effect' till now when I looked up for it in Wikipedia!
    Next time when someone asks me about Astrology...I will definitely bring this word to them..."Do you know anything about Forer effect? if not, then Google it" instead of explaining whole!
    icon_smile.gif
    http://gayboysguidetothezodiac.blogspot.com/2011/07/virgo-sign-of-healer.html?m=1


    For instance when I read this I think most of it synched up with me. Some of yiy didn't but this was the first one I read where I was like 'this shit is legit '. Now I'm not really. Someone who believes in the supernatural of anything but this seems credible. I read a few other sites and they seemed pretty accurate about me too. And there seems to be quite a lot of science involved in determining how what it means when certain planets are in line or rising or descending.


    Let me make this perfectly clear. There is no science to this.
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:03 AM GMT
    Medjai said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Harry7785 said
    Medjai saidRead up on the Forer Effect. I think you may find it very relevant.


    Ha ha... this is what I though of telling the OP but I don't know that this expression has a word 'Forer effect' till now when I looked up for it in Wikipedia!
    Next time when someone asks me about Astrology...I will definitely bring this word to them..."Do you know anything about Forer effect? if not, then Google it" instead of explaining whole!
    icon_smile.gif
    http://gayboysguidetothezodiac.blogspot.com/2011/07/virgo-sign-of-healer.html?m=1


    For instance when I read this I think most of it synched up with me. Some of yiy didn't but this was the first one I read where I was like 'this shit is legit '. Now I'm not really. Someone who believes in the supernatural of anything but this seems credible. I read a few other sites and they seemed pretty accurate about me too. And there seems to be quite a lot of science involved in determining how what it means when certain planets are in line or rising or descending.


    Let me make this perfectly clear. There is no science to this.


    But there are some people who honestly get degrees in this kind of thing. And it seems really fucking complicated to figure all of this out. How do they do this for every person if there's no science? I mean every person's chart is different.
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:06 AM GMT
    MashogaNubianPrince saidBut there are some people who honestly get degrees in this kind of thing. And it seems really fucking complicated to figure all of this out. How do they do this for every person if there's no science? I mean every person's chart is different.


    Degrees from where?

    So you think complexity is an indicator of scientific validity? You really need to look deeper.
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:10 AM GMT
    Medjai said
    MashogaNubianPrince saidBut there are some people who honestly get degrees in this kind of thing. And it seems really fucking complicated to figure all of this out. How do they do this for every person if there's no science? I mean every person's chart is different.


    Degrees from where?

    So you think complexity is an indicator of scientific validity? You really need to look deeper.


    There is one site where a guy claims to have a doctorate in it.

    I just happen to think that it can't just be a coincidence. At any rate I'm a believer now.
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:14 AM GMT
    MashogaNubianPrince saidThere is one site where a guy claims to have a doctorate in it.

    I just happen to think that it can't just be a coincidence. At any rate I'm a believer now.


    Cool. From where?

    Why not? Where are the studies? The research? Why is it denied by the entire scientific community?p

    You need to dig. You're way to gullible. You're basing this off a few pages and someone's alleged degree.
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:16 AM GMT
    Medjai said
    MashogaNubianPrince saidThere is one site where a guy claims to have a doctorate in it.

    I just happen to think that it can't just be a coincidence. At any rate I'm a believer now.


    Cool. From where?

    Why not? Where are the studies? The research? Why is it denied by the entire scientific community?p

    You need to dig. You're way to gullible. You're basing this off a few pages and someone's alleged degree.


    I don't know I didn't ask. The guy called himself doctor. I just assumed he had a PHD in it.

    I guess I just want to believe in something.
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:19 AM GMT
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    I don't know I didn't ask. The guy called himself doctor. I just assumed he had a PHD in it.

    I guess I just want to believe in something.


    You know anyone can call themselves anything, right? And there are places that give degrees like this, but they're neither reputable or legitimate.

    Desperation to believe does not make it true.
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:21 AM GMT
    Medjai said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    I don't know I didn't ask. The guy called himself doctor. I just assumed he had a PHD in it.

    I guess I just want to believe in something.


    You know anyone can call themselves anything, right? And there are places that give degrees like this, but they're neither reputable or legitimate.

    Desperation to believe does not make it true.


    Desperation aside it just seems to be true.

    I've actually even started being able to get why people look and act certain ways because of what I've been reading. When were you born I bet I could do it for you too.
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:25 AM GMT
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    Desperation aside it just seems to be true.

    I've actually even started being able to get why people look and act certain ways because of what I've been reading. When were you born I bet I could do it for you too.


    Personality profiling has some basis in truth, and is scientifically backed. Linking it to planetary action does not.

    If you find this interesting, psychology is your thing. This? It's garbage.
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:27 AM GMT
    /facepalm

    Listen to medjai
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:29 AM GMT
    Medjai said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Desperation aside it just seems to be true.

    I've actually even started being able to get why people look and act certain ways because of what I've been reading. When were you born I bet I could do it for you too.


    Personality profiling has some basis in truth, and is scientifically backed. Linking it to planetary action does not.

    If you find this interesting, psychology is your thing. This? It's garbage.


    Well I guess we will agree to disagree. But I like psychology and astrology and I think they are both credible.
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:30 AM GMT
    I'm not here to convince you that Astrology is a false science or hoax!

    As long as you are in a right path, the path of doing good to others and to yourself in a moral way, it doesn't matter if you believe in astrology or not...

    My point is that 'at the end of the day, the only thing that matters and counts is what you did to the world to make it a better place...If you want something good to happen to you, then make it happen but don't look for signs'

    If you only look for signs and do no work, it is a hope that goes in vain

    It's like a man in a desert waiting for rain to moist his thirst, instead of searching for water he sits there all along looking for signs in the sky. but you and I know that it is of no use...
    What he should do is make his feeling of thirst as a sign instead of staring at the sky and start looking for water...

    Know what is a sign and what is not, don't wait for something to happen but work for it to change the fate and turn it around as you desire...

    That's all I want to say...
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:31 AM GMT
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    Well I guess we will agree to disagree. But I like psychology and astrology and I think they are both credible.


    But based on what? A fake degree and wishful thinking?

    If you believe things his easily you are going to find yourself taken advantage of again and again. You need to dig more. Question. Think critically,
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:32 AM GMT
    MashogaNubianPrince saidAlso I wanted to ask if anyone knew if there were any tried and true indicators in someones chart that could point to someones orientation. I tried going on those forums but they use a lot of terms I don't really get.


    your own birth (natal) chart is what you should find and read up on, your sun sign and your rising sign, this is the true astrology as in chart intepretation, moon calander also helps, there is new moon Monday in Aries, there are currently 6 planets in Pisces, plus chiron until midnight tonight

    by the way, a new pope will not be until the 18th, we are currently Mercury retrograde until the 17th
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:33 AM GMT
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    Medjai said
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    Desperation aside it just seems to be true.

    I've actually even started being able to get why people look and act certain ways because of what I've been reading. When were you born I bet I could do it for you too.


    Personality profiling has some basis in truth, and is scientifically backed. Linking it to planetary action does not.

    If you find this interesting, psychology is your thing. This? It's garbage.


    Well I guess we will agree to disagree. But I like psychology and astrology and I think they are both credible.

    Funny, in my intro to psych class one of the first things we learned was the Barnum effect, which is basically about astrology being a bunch of bullshit.

    Which it is.

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    Mar 11, 2013 5:35 AM GMT
    Harry7785 saidI'm not here to convince you that Astrology is a false science or hoax!

    As long as you are in a right path, the path of doing good to others and to yourself in a moral way, it doesn't matter if you believe in astrology or not...

    My point is that 'at the end of the day, the only thing that matters and counts is what you did to the world to make it a better place...If you want something good to happen to you, then make it happen but don't look for signs'

    If you only look for signs and do no work, it is a hope that goes in vain

    It's like a man in a desert waiting for rain to moist his thirst, instead of searching for water he sits there all along looking for signs in the sky. but you and I know that it is of no use...
    What he should do is make his feeling of thirst as a sign instead of staring at the sky and start looking for water...

    Know what is a sign and what is not, don't wait for something to happen but work for it to change the fate and turn it around as you desire...

    That's all I want to say...


    I get what you're saying and to be honest after reading up on my sign and characteristics I've really been thinking about how if the more positive things that don't line up are there I should aspire to do better. So Ive been trying to embody it more and also be there for other people in a closer sense. Even though I'm an admittedly cold person its been helping me learn how to connect with others deeper and I've been finding myself wanting to help people more and guide them.
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:38 AM GMT
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    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Medjai said
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    Desperation aside it just seems to be true.

    I've actually even started being able to get why people look and act certain ways because of what I've been reading. When were you born I bet I could do it for you too.


    Personality profiling has some basis in truth, and is scientifically backed. Linking it to planetary action does not.

    If you find this interesting, psychology is your thing. This? It's garbage.


    Well I guess we will agree to disagree. But I like psychology and astrology and I think they are both credible.

    Funny, in my intro to psych class one of the first things we learned was the Barnum effect, which is basically about astrology being a bunch of bullshit.

    Which it is.

    this is what the "masses" want everyone to believe and have not held the science in regard, only those in power use it and understand it because its powerful in the wrong hands, the power is there, its in how you use it