Bow ties - Fun? Cool? Pretentious? Hipster D-bag accessory?

  • shoelessj

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    Mar 12, 2013 4:57 AM GMT
    I'd like to learn how to tie one - not only for very formal occasions, and maybe wear one every now and then. But some folks have strong opinions on them, ranging from 'they make your face look fat' to 'guys who wear fedoras indoors like bow ties these days.'

    Anyone have opinions on them or what do you think if you see a guy sporting one?
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    Mar 12, 2013 5:07 AM GMT
    I think they look awesome. I've always loved em', never had one though. I don't see why some people dislike them so much.
  • Generaleclect...

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    Mar 12, 2013 5:20 AM GMT
    I think they're kinda hipster-douchey when worn casual, but that's just me. I think they're nice for formal wear/events.
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    Mar 12, 2013 6:49 AM GMT
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    This gif comes to mind.

    I think they are kinda nerdy/geeky, but I'd wear one for a formal or semi formal occasion.
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    Mar 12, 2013 12:31 PM GMT
    Generaleclectic saidI think they're kinda hipster-douchey when worn casual, but that's just me. I think they're nice for formal wear/events.


    Agree on the formal events. And if on the right guy, he can be quite hot. Example.....

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    Mar 12, 2013 12:35 PM GMT
    Generaleclectic saidI think they're kinda hipster-douchey when worn casual, but that's just me. I think they're nice for formal wear/events.


    Amen to that! They are incredibly douchy outside of formalwear. I don't think I've ever met a person who wore a bowtie casually that I didn't want to punch square in the nuts.
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    Mar 12, 2013 12:35 PM GMT
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    Mar 12, 2013 12:38 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]WaytoDawn said[/cite]tumblr_mh62q3IDov1rq3up7o1_500.gif

    <3 The Doctor!

    I don't think they're for everybody, but some people carry them off well.
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    Mar 12, 2013 12:42 PM GMT
    BroTie saidScrew you haters icon_mad.gif


    Isn't wearing a bowtie a little too mainstream? Aren't you hipsters supposed to be "over it" by now? icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 12, 2013 12:45 PM GMT
    TheQuest said[quote][cite]WaytoDawn said[/cite]

    <3 The Doctor!

    I don't think they're for everybody, but some people carry them off well.

    To bring it off you need to project a certain geeky-yet-cool attitude. Otherwise you risk reminding people of Bozo the Clown.
    But when it works it's geekily adorable.
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    Mar 12, 2013 12:48 PM GMT
    shoelessj said
    Anyone have opinions on them or what do you think if you see a guy sporting one?

    Bow ties can work, but only in very special circumstances. Do you know the Kevin Kline movie In and Out, where his teacher character wearing a bow tie formed part of his nerdy-gay image?

    I have some novelty bow ties, like for Valentine's Day, and of course black bow ties for formal wear. I only own self-ties, would never consider wearing a pre-tied.

    Furthermore, I don't have adjustable ties, because the visible buckle on a formal stand-up wing collar looks incredibly tacky to me, like a rental. All my bow ties are custom made to my exact collar size. And the knot isn't very difficult to make, the same knot used on your shoelaces, you just have to keep the material flat and balanced, the way you form the knot a little different.

    Here's the company I use. They keep my size on file, I just tell them what fabric I want and they send the tie out. Whether you purchase from them or not, gives you some ideas on your pattern options. And their prices are actually quite reasonable, no more than many stores charge for an adjustable tie not half as nice.

    http://www.beautiesltd.com

    Here's a tie I got from them, at a New Year's Eve party, 2006, age 57. Please forgive my looking a bit tipsy, it's near midnight and I'm feeling the champagne. icon_redface.gif

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    Mar 12, 2013 12:52 PM GMT
    Bow ties are not created equally-- only a few types of men can pull it off. I will look like a d-bag buffoon if I wear one .... Therefore, I avoid bow ties ...
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    Mar 12, 2013 12:57 PM GMT
    Everything has a time and place but Im sick of everyone trying to look like this guy. pew.

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  • owen19832006

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    Mar 12, 2013 2:06 PM GMT
    theyre nice if you can full off that look!
  • ASHDOD

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    Mar 12, 2013 2:18 PM GMT
    It looks stupid
  • thadjock

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    Mar 12, 2013 2:29 PM GMT
    BroTie saidScrew you haters icon_mad.gif


    Now ^THIS^ guy can rock a bow tie! 100%

    most guys can't. proceed with caution

    although that marriage equality thing
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    kinda gives you a "get out of douchebag jail free card" if you're called out on it.
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    Mar 12, 2013 2:58 PM GMT
    They are great for formal wear, but I think to pull the look off in a casual manner one has to have a particular look (i.e., the skinny, nerdy, bookish type). It helps if the bow tie is a bit whimsical in and of itself. I tried wearing one when once dressing casual and didn't particularly like the look on myself. And outside of a formal setting, I like when they aren't tied too perfectly. A liitle sloppily tied adds to the nerdy, bookish look.
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    Mar 12, 2013 3:15 PM GMT
    I wear them all the time...in fact I'm wearing one today and I don't think I'm fun, cool, pretentious, hip or a dbag. I have to wear a tie to work and I like that it doesn't get in the way and is a much cleaner, simpler look.

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    Mar 12, 2013 3:17 PM GMT
    I think if you wear it formally or with added into a casual outfit it looks good. Like this:

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  • stratavos

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    Mar 12, 2013 3:17 PM GMT
    TheQuest said[quote][cite]WaytoDawn said[/cite]tumblr_mh62q3IDov1rq3up7o1_500.gif

    <3 The Doctor!

    I don't think they're for everybody, but some people carry them off well.


    You'd be right conquest. Personally I like Leather Ties icon_biggrin.gif
  • thadjock

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    Mar 12, 2013 3:21 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidThey are great for formal wear, but I think to pull the look off in a casual manner one has to have a particular look (i.e., the skinny, nerdy, bookish type). It helps if the bow tie is a bit whimsical in and of itself. I tried wearing one when once dressing casual and didn't particularly like the look on myself. And outside of a formal setting, I like when they aren't tied too perfectly. A liitle sloppily tied adds to the nerdy, bookish look.


    i think you're somewhat right , but i dont' think there's any consensus on who can wear one successfully. nerdy/bookish + bowtie is almost redundant and often too cliche.

    I'd rather see it worn by someone less archtypal. where it's unexpected, and fun, though not screaming for attention. ( ^ see BroTie above ^ ) not nerdy or bookish at all, yet works it solidly.

    it's totally a case by case basis. and depends entirely on the guy and the context of the environment he's wearing it in. i could never pull it off, i look discordant enough in a regular tie, but this is LA.

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    Mar 12, 2013 3:22 PM GMT
    I say learn from the one who sports it the best!
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  • Rowing_Ant

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    Mar 12, 2013 3:23 PM GMT
    Thanks to Matt Smith, they're cool.
    But a pain in the arse to tie. I was never shown how, as my late Grandmama or Mama would tie it for me.(yes that kind of posh middle class family. lol)
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    Mar 12, 2013 3:27 PM GMT
    imasrxd saidI wear them all the time...in fact I'm wearing one today and I don't think I'm fun, cool, pretentious, hip or a dbag. I have to wear a tie to work and I like that it doesn't get in the way and is a much cleaner, simpler look.

    The four-in-hand necktie became popular when men wore vests with their suits. The vest kept the tie under control, and tie length was actually quite short, because it was only visible for a few inches below the neck.

    Ties became longer (nowadays they should just touch the belt buckle) as vests became less common. But that also made them a bit of an albatross around our necks. As an Army MP we were encouraged to wear clip-ons, so they would break away if a perpetrator tried to grab it (when we still wore ties on duty).

    I can see a return to bow ties, when a closed collar is desired, with a splash of color to accessorize an outfit. Problem is for me, I almost never wear any kind of suit or jacket anymore, except a dinner jacket with a black bow tie, so my need for a bow tie inventory is nil.
  • seafrontbloke

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    Mar 12, 2013 3:40 PM GMT
    It would (when I was younger) be the case that Surgeons would wear bow ties. Of course now they wear scrubs.

    Might I suggest these if you want to wear a day-time bow-tie:

    http://store.turnbullandasser.co.uk/Ties/Exclusive/The_Churchill_Spot_Silk_Bow_Tie.html