Courageous teen - Jacob Rudolph

  • brickboy1966

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    Mar 12, 2013 2:15 PM GMT
    This young man came out at his Senior awards program. I like that he made the statement "I'm not straight".
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    Mar 12, 2013 3:11 PM GMT
    links? pics?
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    Mar 12, 2013 5:11 PM GMT
    here you go

    http://current.com/shows/joy-behar/videos/high-school-senior-jacob-rudolph-comes-out-as-lgbt-during-school-assembly/

    http://www.advocate.com/youth/2013/01/23/watch-high-school-senior-comes-out-standing-ovation

    "The video, filmed and posted to YouTube by Jacob's father, Jonathan Rudolph, shows the younger Rudolph taking the stage to accept the Class Actor award during the school's senior class awards. Rudolph notes that while he's acted in several plays over his academic tenure, he's been acting every day as something he's not: a straight person. "

    Well, of course he's gay.
  • calibro

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    Mar 12, 2013 8:37 PM GMT
    no offense, but so what?
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    Mar 12, 2013 8:39 PM GMT
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?


    I'm glad I have lived to see the day when coming out to a school assembly can be met with a "so what"? The times they has a-changed.

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    Mar 12, 2013 8:40 PM GMT
    ChoklitDaddy said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?


    I'm glad I have lived to see the day when coming out to a school assembly can be met with a "so what"? The times they has a-changed.



    the idea is that if we keep treating events like this one as shocking news, it will be that way. if we can change how we think about these narratives, we can make them the norm, not the exception
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    Mar 12, 2013 10:18 PM GMT
    ChoklitDaddy said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?


    I'm glad I have lived to see the day when coming out to a school assembly can be met with a "so what"? The times they has a-changed.




    i am happy that young people dont understand icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 12, 2013 10:27 PM GMT
    "When I am, in fact, an LGBT teen."

    Wow! He's a lesbian, a gay, a bisexual, and a transgendered teen! That truly is great acting! And hot as Hell, I might add! Hoorah for our team!
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    Mar 12, 2013 10:30 PM GMT
    ASHDOD said
    ChoklitDaddy said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?


    I'm glad I have lived to see the day when coming out to a school assembly can be met with a "so what"? The times they has a-changed.

    i am happy that young people dont understand icon_smile.gif

    Just so. That they don't have to understand. At least not in many places - there's still some work to be done before this is universal.
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    Mar 12, 2013 10:35 PM GMT
    calibro said
    ChoklitDaddy said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?


    I'm glad I have lived to see the day when coming out to a school assembly can be met with a "so what"? The times they has a-changed.

    the idea is that if we keep treating events like this one as shocking news, it will be that way. if we can change how we think about these narratives, we can make them the norm, not the exception

    A bit of a Eurocentric view of things. This would still be shocking news in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Uganda, and dozens of other countries.

    I think I understand your emphasis, but we aren't there yet, just in some places. Until this is the norm, EVERYWHERE, there is still much work to be done.
  • tazzari

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    Mar 12, 2013 11:11 PM GMT
    calibro said
    ChoklitDaddy said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?


    I'm glad I have lived to see the day when coming out to a school assembly can be met with a "so what"? The times they has a-changed.



    the idea is that if we keep treating events like this one as shocking news, it will be that way. if we can change how we think about these narratives, we can make them the norm, not the exception


    Not "shocking" - just good news. Imagine how many other gay kids at the assembly this will have encouraged. Or how many gay kids, seeing this on YouTube, will find strength from it. Or how many straight kids, seeing this, will say, "That kid's got some guts. Cool."

    When they are the norm, you won't have to suffer through them - they'll go away. But we're not there yet - so this was a good thing. Be strong, and bear with.
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    Mar 13, 2013 1:41 AM GMT
    tazzari said
    calibro said
    ChoklitDaddy said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?


    I'm glad I have lived to see the day when coming out to a school assembly can be met with a "so what"? The times they has a-changed.



    the idea is that if we keep treating events like this one as shocking news, it will be that way. if we can change how we think about these narratives, we can make them the norm, not the exception


    Not "shocking" - just good news. Imagine how many other gay kids at the assembly this will have encouraged. Or how many gay kids, seeing this on YouTube, will find strength from it. Or how many straight kids, seeing this, will say, "That kid's got some guts. Cool."

    When they are the norm, you won't have to suffer through them - they'll go away. But we're not there yet - so this was a good thing. Be strong, and bear with.


    A little tougher when I did similar 42 years ago.
  • tazzari

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    Mar 13, 2013 2:17 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    tazzari said
    calibro said
    ChoklitDaddy said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?


    I'm glad I have lived to see the day when coming out to a school assembly can be met with a "so what"? The times they has a-changed.



    the idea is that if we keep treating events like this one as shocking news, it will be that way. if we can change how we think about these narratives, we can make them the norm, not the exception


    Not "shocking" - just good news. Imagine how many other gay kids at the assembly this will have encouraged. Or how many gay kids, seeing this on YouTube, will find strength from it. Or how many straight kids, seeing this, will say, "That kid's got some guts. Cool."

    When they are the norm, you won't have to suffer through them - they'll go away. But we're not there yet - so this was a good thing. Be strong, and bear with.


    A little tougher when I did similar 42 years ago.


    Yeah, but freedom isn't free! icon_smile.gif

    I came out in '71 - and it was really scarey! I do know what you mean, even if some of these youngsters don't. I think they sometimes forget how we got tpo where we are now...
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    Mar 13, 2013 2:30 AM GMT
    tazzari said
    freedomisntfree said
    tazzari said
    calibro said
    ChoklitDaddy said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?


    I'm glad I have lived to see the day when coming out to a school assembly can be met with a "so what"? The times they has a-changed.



    the idea is that if we keep treating events like this one as shocking news, it will be that way. if we can change how we think about these narratives, we can make them the norm, not the exception


    Not "shocking" - just good news. Imagine how many other gay kids at the assembly this will have encouraged. Or how many gay kids, seeing this on YouTube, will find strength from it. Or how many straight kids, seeing this, will say, "That kid's got some guts. Cool."

    When they are the norm, you won't have to suffer through them - they'll go away. But we're not there yet - so this was a good thing. Be strong, and bear with.


    A little tougher when I did similar 42 years ago.


    Yeah, but freedom isn't free! icon_smile.gif

    I came out in '71 - and it was really scarey! I do know what you mean, even if some of these youngsters don't. I think they sometimes forget how we got tpo where we are now...


    I was sneaking around hitting the local bars with a fake ID and one night in the Kismet were my senior English teacher (very much) WITH my senior DECA coordinator. Talk about a shock for all of us. So I wanted to shock others with my pronouncement, although I don't think many knew what I was talking about. After all, just about everyone had bromances back then.

    And I think even tougher because by the late 70s just about everyone had their 'arms around' the concept of homoness. The company I worked for had a formal 50th anniversary party and you guess the rest concerning my date. He was the most stunningly beautiful Hispanic BF one could ever find and the girls were just nuts over him. The guys I worked with were a little unsure over the whole thing.

    I warned the president of the company regarding who I was bringing and he encouraged me to rethink the decision. I said either I did it or he had my resignation. He was OK with my decision and was most cordial. I think he was most concerned with how I might be treated by other employees so his heart was sort of in the right place.
  • brickboy1966

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    Mar 14, 2013 4:41 PM GMT
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?
    I don't think I would have that kind of courage.
  • brickboy1966

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    Mar 14, 2013 4:42 PM GMT
    calibro said
    ChoklitDaddy said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?


    I'm glad I have lived to see the day when coming out to a school assembly can be met with a "so what"? The times they has a-changed.



    the idea is that if we keep treating events like this one as shocking news, it will be that way. if we can change how we think about these narratives, we can make them the norm, not the exception
    I didn't mean for shock value. Just being honest about who you are.icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 14, 2013 4:55 PM GMT
    brickboy1966 said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?
    I don't think I would have that kind of courage.


    In this day and age? Big deal!
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    Mar 14, 2013 5:10 PM GMT
    brickboy1966 said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?
    I don't think I would have that kind of courage.


    I also came out to my school in a speech, where's my parade.
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    Mar 14, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
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    brickboy1966 said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?
    I don't think I would have that kind of courage.


    I also came out to my school in a speech, where's my parade.


    And I did it in 1971.

    BFD
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    Mar 14, 2013 5:21 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    Buddha said
    brickboy1966 said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?
    I don't think I would have that kind of courage.


    I also came out to my school in a speech, where's my parade.


    And I did it in 1971.

    BFD


    It was a big deal in 1971, congratulations. Though I have no idea what happened to you since then.... icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 14, 2013 5:27 PM GMT
    showme said
    freedomisntfree said
    Buddha said
    brickboy1966 said
    calibro saidno offense, but so what?
    I don't think I would have that kind of courage.


    I also came out to my school in a speech, where's my parade.


    And I did it in 1971.

    BFD


    It was a big deal in 1971, congratulations. Though I have no idea what happened to you since then.... icon_razz.gif


    You didn't know me then so you'd have no reason to wonder what happened to me since 1971 ..... other than I got old .... very old.
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    Mar 14, 2013 5:31 PM GMT
    calibro said
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    calibro saidno offense, but so what?


    I'm glad I have lived to see the day when coming out to a school assembly can be met with a "so what"? The times they has a-changed.



    the idea is that if we keep treating events like this one as shocking news, it will be that way. if we can change how we think about these narratives, we can make them the norm, not the exception



    That seems to almost approach magical thinking. I think you need to be careful to claim that and certainly the statement requires justifying. While the two probably work hand in hand, a story not just delineating the characteristics of a society but reinforcingly or alteringly so, as the case may be, I'm not so sure that if we simply change the story telling that the reality follows suit.

    The narrative of religion certainly has changed especially in regard to its control over society, replaced since by corporatism, yet, what is it, 78% of Americans still think Jesus rose from the dead? The story telling changed quite a bit but maybe not so much the thinking. We very much want the thinking to change only that has to arise systemically or we'd have been wasting our time. So is that done by overlaying a forced narrative? Or by putting our head in the sand to the story that's being told: no marriage rights, bullying, suicides, killings around the world, et al. That's the shit that's shocking, not our celebrations in support of ourselves.

    With relatively rare exception, it's not as if we've been telling the story of our acceptance into the world for very long for even that to have taken hold in either the forefront of our thinking as practically appliable or within the imaginable collective consciousness. So, patience young warlock. Your frustration is understandable but these things take time.

    It's gonna take time
    A whole lot of precious time
    It's gonna take patience and time
    To do it right child