Anyone had Rhabdo before? (Rhabdomyolysis) AKA "CrossFit Disease"

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    Mar 13, 2013 3:05 AM GMT
    I was very sick after a gut-wrenching workout last Saturday. I took a one hour gymnastics CrossFit class (a first) and then I did what I thought was the regular WOD class immediately afterwards with no break in between. I later found out the WOD was a "Hero Workout", which was exceptionally brutal. So two hours of straight, non-stop intense exercise....much of it were things I've never done before, so my muscles were really worked over good. Two days later, I couldn't get off the sofa for three days, but aside from a sore throat, I had none of the ordinary cold or flu symptoms. I just felt like I had been run over by a truck. Even though I drank tons of water, my urine was a very dark color. After telling my sports medicine doctor friend about it and how I killed it in the gym, he said he thought Rhabdo was a good possibility. I didn't mention it to him until I was on the mend, so no tests were done to confirm it.

    Just curious if any of you guys ever had this.
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    Mar 13, 2013 3:20 AM GMT
    How's your urine now? Is it still dark even after drinking all that water? If so and if you really believe you have rhabdo, then you need to seek immediate medical attention. Rhabdo can cause permanent kidney damage because the muscle fibers are breaking down its contents to your bloodstream. Those contents are too big to pass through the kidneys, which can permanently damage them.

    Good luck to you and keep up posted on what I'm hoping is a positive outcome for you!
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    Mar 13, 2013 3:34 AM GMT
    Erik101 saidHow's your urine now? Is it still dark even after drinking all that water? If so and if you really believe you have rhabdo, then you need to seek immediate medical attention. Rhabdo can cause permanent kidney damage because the muscle fibers are breaking down its contents to your bloodstream. Those contents are too big to pass through the kidneys, which can permanently damage them.

    Good luck to you and keep up posted on what I'm hoping is a positive outcome for you!



    It's almost clear now. I feel much better, and even did a scaled down workout yesterday. But had to quit 80% through the class when we started doing box jumps. I feel almost back to normal, but still sluggish and lots of mucus. Not sure if the mucus is part of Rhabdo or not, or a secondary infection from my immune system getting slammed. Good news is....I've learned my lesson the hard way about pushing myself too hard in the gym. I do not want to go through that ever again.
  • NHsports

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    Mar 13, 2013 1:10 PM GMT
    You really have to workup to workouts like that. Rhabdo is very dangerous and so often crossfitters will write it off as something else. There are different degrees of rhabdo but if you do notice that your urine is dark then you should check into the hospital.

    In the future make sure that you are getting plenty of water prior to, during, and after the workout. Also hero wods are really long for a reason, I would never couple them up with any other workouts during the day. Good luck!
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    Mar 13, 2013 1:13 PM GMT
    Maybe you can show us the "after" pics once you're done?
  • Whipmagic

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    Mar 13, 2013 1:47 PM GMT
    I wish you a speedy recovery, Scruffy. This really sucks. As always, the key to any exercise program is to listen to your body, work hard but smart. And it doesn't reflect well on the trainiers at your box that they didn't watch out for you better. By the way, which Hero was it that did so much damage to you?
  • MuscleComeBac...

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    Mar 13, 2013 2:04 PM GMT
    You need two weeks off from ANY training. Period. Rhabdo leaves you susceptible to repeat occurrences and further damage to your body.

    You need to immediately see a doctor in spite of cessation of any presenting symptoms. A urine test and other testing will reveal if you have it or had it or not.

    Do not continue training until you are 100%
    cleared by your doctor and then you need to see a nutritionist and discuss diet.

    Once cleared you need to work on a program that allows you to build up over the next year to levels of greater resistance and endurance. Even then, you should look at workouts that are no more than 50 minutes in duration three times a week for the first year and bring your intensity levels back up very, very slowly.

    This is serious. It is an epidemic issue in introducing un-conditioned or under-conditioned athletes into a system that is not appropriate for all participants and the result of a very poorly monitored CF affiliate program with poorly trained trainers. WOD is a foolishly applied approach that hurts many more people than it helps. CF lacks in-depth monitoring and evaluation tools in 90% of its affiliate facilities. This is partially because any club that pays the fee can be licensed as a CF Facility, and there is a serious lack of oversight once they have the money.

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    Mar 13, 2013 2:16 PM GMT
    Crazy, didnt realise humans got this - seen a number of horses with it though
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    Mar 13, 2013 3:35 PM GMT
    Thanks for the concern guys, but I'm much better now. I didn't even realize I probably had it until I was well. I'm pissing clear now and eating good again. This was no one's fault but my own. There's a definite pattern here.....I have a history of getting very excited about working out and when I start to see gains, I go ape-shit and do much more than I probably should. No coach can look at you and know when you're over-doing it. That's up to me, and I failed. But I think I've learned my lesson this time. I'm scaling way back until I can slowly build up my fitness level to the point I'm happy with.
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    Mar 13, 2013 4:11 PM GMT
    MuscleComeBack is right. Stop doing CF workouts for a while. Go to the doctor even though you don't have symptoms anymore. Then come back to the gym and only work on technique for a while. No metcons.

    I own a CF affiliate and your story is exactly what I hate about CF workouts. Hero WODs need to be very very carefully used--they are not for everyone.

    If you were training at my gym and I heard your symptoms, I would personally drag you to the doctor and you would not be allowed to return to the gym until you saw him. This is not a joke.

    -Joey
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    Mar 13, 2013 10:15 PM GMT
    I'm confused by the original post.
    You do lots of crossfit but you had never done a gymnastics focus session before? And then you did a Hero WOD afterwards? You damn fool.

    I've never even met anyone who managed to give themselves rhabdo. However, isn't it mainly crush syndrome rhabdo that people die from / get permanent damage from?
    I always roll my eyes at people who do two sessions in a row. If you don't give your all in the first session, then why do it? And if you did then what are the risks that you are going to fuck up in the next? All in favour of a bit of supplemental mobility / skill / strength work but...
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    Mar 13, 2013 10:30 PM GMT
    grofte saidI'm confused by the original post.
    You do lots of crossfit but you had never done a gymnastics focus session before? And then you did a Hero WOD afterwards? You damn fool.

    I've never even met anyone who managed to give themselves rhabdo. However, isn't it mainly crush syndrome rhabdo that people die from / get permanent damage from?
    I always roll my eyes at people who do two sessions in a row. If you don't give your all in the first session, then why do it? And if you did then what are the risks that you are going to fuck up in the next? All in favour of a bit of supplemental mobility / skill / strength work but...


    Correct. I'm fairly new to CrossFit and this was my first gymnastics focus session. And since I jumped into the second workout, I didn't realize it was a Hero WOD. In fact, I had never even heard the term before. And yes, I "gave my all" in the first session, but since I was learning new techniques, I didn't feel I had adequate cardio, therefore I did the second workout. If you had read my previous posts, you'd know I already feel a bit stupid for overdoing it, but thanks for calling me a "fool" to confirm my shame. Thanks.
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    Mar 16, 2013 6:28 PM GMT
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    grofte saidI'm confused by the original post.
    You do lots of crossfit but you had never done a gymnastics focus session before? And then you did a Hero WOD afterwards? You damn fool.

    I've never even met anyone who managed to give themselves rhabdo. However, isn't it mainly crush syndrome rhabdo that people die from / get permanent damage from?
    I always roll my eyes at people who do two sessions in a row. If you don't give your all in the first session, then why do it? And if you did then what are the risks that you are going to fuck up in the next? All in favour of a bit of supplemental mobility / skill / strength work but...


    Correct. I'm fairly new to CrossFit and this was my first gymnastics focus session. And since I jumped into the second workout, I didn't realize it was a Hero WOD. In fact, I had never even heard the term before. And yes, I "gave my all" in the first session, but since I was learning new techniques, I didn't feel I had adequate cardio, therefore I did the second workout. If you had read my previous posts, you'd know I already feel a bit stupid for overdoing it, but thanks for calling me a "fool" to confirm my shame. Thanks.


    Well... it was not maliciously intended. But sometimes you have to call them as you see them =)
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    Mar 16, 2013 6:40 PM GMT
    2 hours? That's loony! As a beginner, you should pace and scale your wod accordingly. Your trainer should have known better. So, you stayed for 2 sessions or your box offers 2 hours classes?

    Find a better box with superior programming and trainers.


    Take care.....

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    Mar 16, 2013 6:42 PM GMT
    Oh my bad.. "Rhabado" is not a Mexican dish?
    Guess i wont be ordering that next time. icon_confused.gif
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    Mar 16, 2013 7:37 PM GMT
    grofte said
    I always roll my eyes at people who do two sessions in a row. If you don't give your all in the first session, then why do it? And if you did then what are the risks that you are going to fuck up in the next? .


    AMEN!
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    Mar 17, 2013 1:14 AM GMT
    n2briefs2 said2 hours? That's loony! As a beginner, you should pace and scale your wod accordingly. Your trainer should have known better. So, you stayed for 2 sessions or your box offers 2 hours classes?

    Find a better box with superior programming and trainers.


    Take care.....

    Cheers



    No. I signed up for the gymnastics class ahead of time. As that class was ending, I saw another class beginning (with a different coach) and asked him if I could join in. He had no idea I had just finished the gymnastics class. I did the second class because we were learning a bunch of new stuff and I felt like I didn't get much of a cardiovascular workout, which is why I did the second class. I just didn't realize how all those new movements would slam my body. The trainers are fantastic. You can't expect any trainer to baby sit you 24/7. You have to use common sense, and unfortunately I let my excitement overrule my common sense.
  • Whipmagic

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    Mar 17, 2013 1:25 AM GMT
    Well, Scruffy, it sounds like you're on the mend, with no permanent damage done, and can look back on it as a lesson learned. This stuff is intense, no doubt. Wish you all the best!
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    Mar 17, 2013 2:13 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    n2briefs2 said2 hours? That's loony! As a beginner, you should pace and scale your wod accordingly. Your trainer should have known better. So, you stayed for 2 sessions or your box offers 2 hours classes?

    Find a better box with superior programming and trainers.


    Take care.....

    Cheers



    No. I signed up for the gymnastics class ahead of time. As that class was ending, I saw another class beginning (with a different coach) and asked him if I could join in. He had no idea I had just finished the gymnastics class. I did the second class because we were learning a bunch of new stuff and I felt like I didn't get much of a cardiovascular workout, which is why I did the second class. I just didn't realize how all those new movements would slam my body. The trainers are fantastic. You can't expect any trainer to baby sit you 24/7. You have to use common sense, and unfortunately I let my excitement overrule my common sense.


    Ok. Well, lesson learned. Baby steps, buddy. You will be fine once you build up your weaknesses. In no time you will be a wod killer.

    Cheers