Boy Scouts Send Out Despicable Survey Questioning Parents And Troops About Gay Scenarios

  • metta

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    Mar 13, 2013 7:21 AM GMT
    Boy Scouts Send Out Despicable Survey Questioning Parents And Troops About Gay Scenarios


    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/03/11/boy-scouts-send-out-despicable-survey-questioning-parents-and-troops-about-gay-scenarios/
  • Destinharbor

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    Mar 13, 2013 4:35 PM GMT
    Republicans and right wingers. Disgusting group. Absolutely no ethics.
  • PolaroidSwing...

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    Mar 13, 2013 4:39 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidRepublicans and right wingers. Disgusting group. Absolutely no ethics.


    It's mostly the people in charge. At the local level, a lot of the people are/ have been pushing for a change.
  • Destinharbor

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    Mar 13, 2013 4:47 PM GMT
    PolaroidSwinger said
    Destinharbor saidRepublicans and right wingers. Disgusting group. Absolutely no ethics.


    It's mostly the people in charge. At the local level, a lot of the people are/ have been pushing for a change.

    I agree. But one way you can help locals make a difference is by being vocal. And applying pressure wherever you can. I used to be on a regional Board of Directors of a Scout group until, in the 90's and early '00's, the Republican Party went on its anti-gay campaign which the Texas based home office of the Scouts then joined in with excessive glee. I resigned my Board seat, and have taken the opportunity to argue against them at United Way allocation meetings as well as directly challenging individual Scout Masters. Go along, get along won't cause that Board to change.
  • metta

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    Mar 13, 2013 4:50 PM GMT
    Survey asks whether gay and straight Boy Scouts can share tent

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/13/us/boy-scouts-policy/index.html
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    Mar 13, 2013 4:59 PM GMT
    I'm deeply offended by this move on the Boy Scouts. I can guarantee that 70% of the BSA wants to keep the policy in place but ultimately money talks and they will overturn the ban.
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    Mar 13, 2013 5:19 PM GMT
    I think it is a shame that BSA would even consider allowing Gay people into their ranks. Where's their integrity? They ought to continue being exactly who they truly are.

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    What's next on our agenda, finding acceptance in the KKK?
  • wild_sky360

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    Mar 13, 2013 6:28 PM GMT
    I don't see where the upside to this survey is for maintaining their anti gay policies.icon_confused.gif

    They are already losing their funding and the PR battle. If an anti gay consensus emerges from this survey, it will do nothing to change this ever increasing fact.

    If however, a more tolerant viewpoint emerges from the broader membership, vs the current leadership, the survey results could be used to marginalize the hardliners within, and offer cover for changes.

    The wording also appears to explore the option of local chapter decision making. While not ideal, that would be an incremental step in the right direction, like the state by state legitimizing of gay marriage. Funding could theoretically be restored for the organization with the stipulation that none of it goes to discriminatory chapters. This would further ostracize those factions while allowing competing, nondiscriminatory chapters within the same local community to enjoy the funds.

  • Apparition

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    Mar 13, 2013 6:34 PM GMT
    Funny how, like SOOOO many things, this is the end of the world in the US, yet not even an issue in CANADA.

    All you gay boys are free to come up here and live with the adults if you want.
  • Destinharbor

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    Mar 13, 2013 7:55 PM GMT
    Apparition saidFunny how, like SOOOO many things, this is the end of the world in the US, yet not even an issue in CANADA.

    All you gay boys are free to come up here and live with the adults if you want.

    I wouldn't mind. Thought about it a lot when Bush was re-elected (or really, his only election since he really didn't win the first time). But my impression is Canada makes it pretty tough to move there. I know National Health is part of it but do you or anyone else know? Is it hard to relocate to Canada?
  • SomeSiciliano...

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    Mar 13, 2013 8:14 PM GMT
    Destinharbor said
    Apparition saidFunny how, like SOOOO many things, this is the end of the world in the US, yet not even an issue in CANADA.

    All you gay boys are free to come up here and live with the adults if you want.

    Is it hard to relocate to Canada?


    For a US citizen.....*YES*
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    Mar 13, 2013 8:40 PM GMT
    metta8 saidSurvey asks whether gay and straight Boy Scouts can share tent

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/13/us/boy-scouts-policy/index.html


    Depends whose pants the 'tent' is in

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    As a parent, this would make me a bit uncomfortable and I don't know how I would answer. I suppose I'd let my son make the call, even at age 15. If he was ok with it, then I suppose I would be too. Obviously, this wasn't asked when my son was in the boy scouts some 25 years ago.

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    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/03/13/bsaq.pdf

    In the nine survey questions, I think in #1 that'd be fine and would also butch these boys up. #3 though would give me some heartburn, and if it was concerning my son going on that camping trip, I'd go with a no.
  • metta

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    Mar 14, 2013 3:40 PM GMT
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    Mar 14, 2013 4:44 PM GMT
    Interesting, Metta, that bit about the president of the USA being the honorary prez of the BSA. Absolutely he ought to step out of that shit role. But not only that. He ought to sign an executive order against future presidents serving as honorary anything of discriminatory agencies.