San Diego or Los Angeles?

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    Mar 17, 2013 7:27 PM GMT
    Care to elaborate on the pros and cons of living in one over the other?
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    Mar 17, 2013 7:42 PM GMT
    That's a pretty open ended question. Maybe if you listed the reasons why you're considering those two cities, we can refine our responses better.
  • Webster666

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    Mar 17, 2013 9:23 PM GMT
    LA is too fucking ugly, has too fucking much traffic, and the weather is too fucking hot.
  • jo2hotbod

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    Mar 18, 2013 1:57 AM GMT
    San Diego hands down
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    Mar 18, 2013 2:05 AM GMT
    San Diego: great place to visit, terrible place to live. Over crowded. Over priced. Over rated, in my opinion. My San Diego friends even told me, "Don't judge California by San Diego. San Diego is Mexico."

    Never lived in LA so I cannot provide any perspective on that locale.
  • socalbruin

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    Mar 18, 2013 2:06 AM GMT
    having lived in San Diego for most of my life, and now living in LA I think I can answer this question pretty well...

    San Diego:
    + fantastic weather year round
    - fairly homogenous, could use a bit more diversity
    + great beer/ breweries
    + best mexican food you'll ever eat.
    + hillcrest is fun, small, good community
    - not a whole lot going on all the time. can feel dead compared to a bigger city
    + very safe

    LA
    - traffic is terrible, but manageable if you travel smart
    + great diversity, really feels like an international city
    + also great weather, although admittedly a bit more temperate than SD
    + great food
    + awesome nightlife
    + great bars
    - ghetto in some parts
    - more homeless people
  • Zinc

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    Mar 18, 2013 2:10 AM GMT
    San Diego, easier living, more beach.
  • calibro

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    Mar 18, 2013 2:40 AM GMT
    san diego = closeted soldiers, good tortillas, expensive zoo you'll never go to except for a pride party
    los angeles = win
  • Import

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    Mar 18, 2013 2:59 AM GMT
    LA duuude.
  • groundcombat

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    Mar 18, 2013 2:59 AM GMT
    calibro saidsan diego = closeted soldiers, good tortillas, expensive zoo you'll never go to except for a pride party
    los angeles = win


    Lol
  • groundcombat

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    Mar 18, 2013 3:05 AM GMT
    To answer the question, I think the most difficult part of your question is defining "LA." LA is very different depending on what part of the area you're talking about. I'm sure the same is true for SD but LA is one of the most diverse metro areas I've ever encountered.

    The only thing I can say that might apply generally across the Southland is the potential for bad traffic and even that becomes less relevant where you live, work, and play in the same area or, in my case, live and travel in denser populated areas of the city where you can bike or take the Metro.

    SD has a lot of the positives of many LA neighborhoods but my opinion is that it's a generally slower/smaller version of LA that's a little better for settling down for the long haul.
  • groundcombat

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    Mar 18, 2013 3:08 AM GMT
    I also find that much of SD is situated "too close" to the water so you're dealing with cooler temperatures and fog layers much more of the year than I like. Of course you still get that in coastal areas of LA but I think there are options off the coast in LA that get warmer temps and more sun.
  • MCSDNYC

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    Mar 18, 2013 3:10 AM GMT
    It's gotta be San Diego. I'm biased because I grew up there tho, haha You got beaches and you can actually breathe. Lots of great neighborhoods and parks. LA's fine if you love the big city, but SD gives you big city benefits without all the other shit that usually comes with it. Just my humble opinion guys icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 18, 2013 3:10 AM GMT
    Well, if we're going to be speaking in generalities..

    I like San Diego but it's really.. sterile. Ned Flanders would move here if he wanted to be closer to the beach. It's such a clean and somewhat non eventful city. It's a great place to visit, but I personally wouldn't want to live there.

    My opinion is a little biased, but I think LA has a lot more to offer in terms of culture and things to do. Yeah, traffic is awful here. And you have to adjust your schedule around traffic conditions. But ya know, traffic is awful in every major city. So it's something you get used to. Also, keep in mind that people tend to lump the entire region as "LA". There's more to do and see in the surrounding cities and towns, and beyond. There truly is something for everyone. It's just a matter of finding it. But traffic usually discourages people from exploring.

    So yeah, it all comes down to what you're looking for and the reasons why you chose the two cities.
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    Mar 18, 2013 3:15 AM GMT
    NorCal.

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    Mar 18, 2013 3:15 AM GMT
    calibro saidsan diego = closeted soldiers, good tortillas, expensive zoo you'll never go to except for a pride party
    los angeles = win



    bahaha. closeted soldiers. seriously. just hit the gaslamp.

    SD=win still. If you like the more chill laid back feeling. Def a step back in pace from LA.
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    Mar 18, 2013 3:20 AM GMT
    SD County has cleaner, warmer beaches than LA. Surfing is great if you can handle the localism / surf off peak hours in SD.

    SD is smaller, cleaner, slightly warmer climate, and is stunningly beautiful.

    LA is truly a world class city, very diverse, but segregated in some ways. Wealth is huddled at the beaches and in smaller surrounding cities, with the inland areas where the working people live. Parts of LA are beautiful, others are bleak. There is ALWAYS a lot to do in Los Angeles and it's surrounding communities, and tons to explore. Very quick access to nature, and many decent surf breaks within about 30 minute drive. Localism not as much of a problem as in OC or SD Counties.
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    Mar 18, 2013 3:22 AM GMT
    San Diego is more chill, laid back. The beaches are gorgeous and the weather is better. LA is nice too depending on what part but its just too glitzy for me and the beaches are not as nice.
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    Mar 18, 2013 3:24 AM GMT
    Sterile basically describes San Diego perfectly. A taxi driver in Las Vegas said he couldn't spend more than 4 days there without running out of things to do in San Diego. But, the temps are more moderate the closer to the ocean you get and you'll find more of that in San Diego.


    And, yeah, I feel like dating is easier in LA for gays. San Diego? Not so much.

    Traffic wise, San Diego suffered an influx of tech workers and outgrew its interstate system about two decades ago. You have a major wireless/electronics tech firm building office space like crazy where I5 and I805 meet near LaJolla. Similarly, if you work in downtown San Diego, you might want to find a place to live... downtown.

    Fire up Google Maps, add the traffic patterns. And, you should be able to view a live webcast of the local news programming and listen to their traffic reports.

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    Mar 18, 2013 3:27 AM GMT
    JeffSGV said Localism not as much of a problem as in OC or SD Counties.

    The phrase "localism" describes issues I'm seeing up in Seattle. If you're not able to live/commute to the gayborhood of Capital Hill, you'll have a tough time.
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    Mar 18, 2013 3:43 AM GMT
    LA vs. SD

    LA pros:

    LA has a better art and music scene than SD. While there are many cool, small venues in North Park and University Heights, it really doesn't compare to Los Feliz or Silver Lake.

    LA's bar scene is more varied than in SD as well. Want to be a little pretentious? Go to downtown's Library Bar or The Standard's rooftop bar. There are more hipster bars in LA as there are simply more neighborhoods. For example, Glassell Park along with Highland Park are showing signs that they will be the next Los Feliz, Silverlake, or Echo Park.

    So if you're looking for entertainment, LA has MANY more options.

    LA cons:

    The traffic is worse in LA. Without a doubt. It makes sense since there are commuters coming from Ventura, Riverside, and San Bernardino counties as well as LA commuters going to Orange County. The massive suburban ring around LA is huge.

    In general, rents and houses are slightly more expensive in LA than in SD. Comparing North or South Park vs. Silverlake (both relatively the same neighborhoods in terms of character and feel) you immediately realize that better deals are to be had in SD.

    Crime is more of a concern in LA. Okay, yes it is of course in SD and relatively speaking LA is a pretty safe large city...but it is worse in LA than in SD. Much of that is because there are large swathes of concentrated poverty in LA.

    Bars are slightly more expensive in LA too.

    SD pros:

    Again it's cheaper than in LA and plus more connected with its "laid back vibe", OB and PB does boast mcmansions, to be sure, but not to the extent of similar neighborhoods in LA.

    The neighborhoods are very connected in SD. Walking around in South Park, North Park, Hillcrest, or any other adjacent neighborhood, you get a sense that people are proud where they live. While this does exist in LA, I feel that it's taken to a wholly new level in SD.

    SD cons:

    SD is fairly boring at times. It lacks the variety that LA does. Part of this is simply due to poor urban planning. Downtown is now essentially a retirement suburb in which many older families from neighboring suburbs moved into luxury condos. In fact during the boom, there were more commuters living in downtown than people working in downtown. There are relatively few true urban communities in SD while there are much more in LA.

    I hope this helps!
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    Mar 18, 2013 3:46 AM GMT
    LA is MUCH more interesting.

    I'm from NorCal and I'm supposed to hate LA, but I can't. It's just too big and multifaceted.

    San Diego is boring, conservative, suburban...
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    Mar 18, 2013 3:51 AM GMT
    CFL_Oakland saidLA is MUCH more interesting.

    I'm from NorCal and I'm supposed to hate LA, but I can't. It's just too big and multifaceted.

    San Diego is boring, conservative, suburban...


    I wouldn't call San Diego conservative. Scripps Ranch, PQ (basically the suburban areas) are very conservative....but then you have Barrio Logan and San Diego's urban neighborhoods that are like any other "hip" neighborhood in any other city.
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    Mar 18, 2013 3:52 AM GMT
    Before you write off SanDiego downtown, it does have the Gaslamp district, but that is geared more for straight horny marines than me.

    I lived in one of the high-rise apartment buildings (Vantage Point). It was actually nice to park the car on nights and weekends and walk to where I wanted to go, including the 24hr fit sport at Horton Plaza.

    I tend to focus on sixth avenue. Down the street from a Ghiradelli's chocolate shop is a restaurant called the "San Diego Strip Club". Yeah, I thought so too. Basically, you get a chunk of raw beef that you cook yourself at one of the gas-fired grills around the room. Its a fun date idea.

    For tourists, its relatively inexpensive.

    And, north of Ghiradelli's is an Edwards theater multiplex.
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    Mar 18, 2013 3:57 AM GMT
    LA! Go to Runyon Canyon on a warm day and all the men look like fitness models.