Hillary Clinton Comes Out In Support Of Marriage Equality

  • MiamiRealJock

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    Mar 18, 2013 5:39 PM GMT
    Hillary Clinton has made a new video for the Human Rights Campaign in which she explains why she supports marriage equality for lesbian and gay couples. This is not the first time Clinton has made similar statements, she reiterated what she had said in Geneva over a year ago where she championed rights for LGBT citizens around the world, Clinton said then “gay rights are human rights, and human rights are gay rights.” In her HRC video, she goes on to say that “I believe America is at its best when we champion the freedom and dignity of every human being. That’s who we are, its in our DNA.” She also explained her support of same-sex marriage:

    "LGBT Americans are our colleagues, our teachers, our soldiers, our friends, our loved ones. And they are full and equal citizens and deserve the rights of citizenship. That includes marriage. That’s why I support marriage for lesbian and gay couples. I support it personally and as a matter of policy and law, embedded in a broader effort to advance equality and opportunity for LGBT Americans and all Americans. Like so many others my personal views have been shaped over time by people I have known and loved."

    http://thegailygrind.com/2013/03/18/watch-hillary-clinton-comes-out-in-support-of-marriage-equality/
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    Mar 18, 2013 11:23 PM GMT
    Yay Hillary! icon_cool.gif
  • creature

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    Mar 19, 2013 1:19 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidSo... prior to today Hillary was NOT in favor of gay marriage, yet many a liberal hen here supported her in the past anyway. I guess if you are a Democrat, it doesn't matter what your position on gay marriage is.


    There are other issues besides same-sex marriage for why Republicans draw the ire of some us liberals on this forum. And even though Clinton is now supporting same-sex marriage, her attitude towards the subject or anything else relating to homosexuality has not been antagonistic like the efforts of much of the Republican party.

    On a side note...

    If Clinton is just now publicly supporting same-sex marriage, what was up with the bitchiness on this forum during the beginning of Obama's first-term regarding gay issues. By the harsh accusations thrown at Obama from some guys here, I was under the assumption that Clinton was a proponent of same-sex marriage at the time.

    Apparently not.

    I don't think Clinton would have done anything differently on the issues regarding 'gay matters.' And Obama has done a lot. But why was Clinton put on a pedestal for the issues.
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    Mar 19, 2013 1:39 AM GMT
    creature saidThere are other issues besides same-sex marriage for why Republicans draw the ire of some us liberals on this forum. And even though Clinton is now supporting same-sex marriage, her attitude towards the subject or anything else relating to homosexuality has not been antagonistic like the efforts of much of the Republican party.
    This, totally.
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    Mar 19, 2013 3:27 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidSo... prior to today Hillary was NOT in favor of gay marriage, yet many a liberal hen here supported her in the past anyway. I guess if you are a Democrat, it doesn't matter what your position on gay marriage is.


    not really. she instructed the state department to extend rights to employees in same sex couples long before it was cool. as opposed to being just a mouthpiece, she actually did stuff.
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    Mar 19, 2013 3:29 AM GMT
    calibro said
    southbeach1500 saidSo... prior to today Hillary was NOT in favor of gay marriage, yet many a liberal hen here supported her in the past anyway. I guess if you are a Democrat, it doesn't matter what your position on gay marriage is.


    not really. she instructed the state department to extend rights to employees in same sex couples long before it was cool. as opposed to being just a mouthpiece, she actually did stuff.


    This. Also, gay marriage isn't the only issue. Why should anyone be a one-issue voter?
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    Mar 19, 2013 3:31 AM GMT
    Hillary 2016
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    Mar 19, 2013 4:38 AM GMT
    nevz saidHillary 2016


    Hear! Hear!
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    Mar 19, 2013 4:47 AM GMT
    I don't get the willful ignorance...

    Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama (and just about everyone else of importance) have supported marriage equality for their entire adult lives. What they publicly say is dictated by political considerations. Like it or not, that's the way it works. I'd recommend that people watch Lincoln and see the speech given by Thaddeus Stevens about whether blacks were truly equal as a historical example.

    More topically, support for same-sex marriage among non-white Americans has increased by huge margins since Barack Obama came out in favor of same-sex marriage. Had he timed his announcement incorrectly (i.e. before 200icon_cool.gif, he may not have been elected and therefore have the same influence among non-white Americans that he has now. He probably did more for same-sex marriage by delaying his pronouncement.

    For that matter, probably 80% of Republican senators also support marriage equality as well, though the number is certainly lower in the House of Representatives. That's because you have to be relatively smart and strategic to become a Senator, but honest-to-god dumb people can be elected to the House of Representatives if their district has the right makeup

    It's just baffling to me why on certain issues politicians' public proclamations are assumed to occur in a vacuum.
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    Mar 19, 2013 4:51 AM GMT
    I smell a campaign run in 2016
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    Mar 19, 2013 8:42 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidSo... prior to today Hillary was NOT in favor of gay marriage, yet many a liberal hen here supported her in the past anyway. I guess if you are a Democrat, it doesn't matter what your position on gay marriage is.


    So the Democrats were not always perfect, you think that means we should support the party of homophobes and fundamentalists (Republicans) instead? That's like eating a meal and not being impressed with how it tastes, and deciding you'd rather eat someone's shit instead. You would have downgraded from edible food to shit.

    The reason the Democrats took so long to support marriage equality is that the leadership has been more "centrist" than progressive, and this centrist wing believed in compromise with Republicans on some issues, in order to win elections. If the progressives had been in control of the Democrats, the party would have supported gay marriage early on. It's because of the conservative political climate fostered by the Republicans that Democrats felt they had to compromise on the issue of gay marriage until recently.
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    Mar 19, 2013 5:21 PM GMT
    nevz saidHillary 2016
    That is a bit premature my friend. It is only 2013. Lets see how everything plays out over the next three years regarding this issue.
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    Mar 20, 2013 3:27 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    nevz saidHillary 2016
    That is a bit premature my friend. It is only 2013. Lets see how everything plays out over the next three years regarding this issue.

    It's not premature for presidential campaigns. Republicans are already lining up their 2016 favorites.
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    Mar 20, 2013 3:47 PM GMT
    One thing one must give Australia's Socialist PM Juliar credit for, is that she has been transparent on the fact she does not support Same sex marriage; but then there are many things that women does not support either, and it is election year, and she may well play the gay card, and evolve to suddenly support gay marriage, or better marriage equality.
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    Mar 20, 2013 6:07 PM GMT
    bla75 said
    nevz saidHillary 2016


    Hear! Hear!


    +2
  • Medjai

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    Mar 20, 2013 6:23 PM GMT
    TallNYguy said
    bla75 said
    nevz saidHillary 2016


    Hear! Hear!


    +2


    You guys really want a woman in the power seat? It'd be a new war every time her 'monthly gift' arrived...
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    Mar 20, 2013 6:31 PM GMT
    Medjai said
    You guys really want a woman in the power seat? It'd be a new war every time her 'monthly gift' arrived...


    I think Hillary is past that age, so no issue here. icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 20, 2013 6:35 PM GMT
    TallNYguy said
    Medjai said
    You guys really want a woman in the power seat? It'd be a new war every time her 'monthly gift' arrived...


    I think Hillary is past that age, so no issue here. icon_wink.gif


    True. She'll just be plagued by hot flashes
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    Mar 20, 2013 6:40 PM GMT
    Medjai said
    TallNYguy said
    Medjai said
    You guys really want a woman in the power seat? It'd be a new war every time her 'monthly gift' arrived...


    I think Hillary is past that age, so no issue here. icon_wink.gif


    True. She'll just be plagued by hot flashes


    I think that she's past that, too. She's 65.
  • Medjai

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    Mar 20, 2013 6:49 PM GMT
    intensity69 saidI think that she's past that, too. She's 65.


    Is she really? Jesus! My bad on the age issue... icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 20, 2013 7:10 PM GMT
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    southbeach1500 saidSo... prior to today Hillary was NOT in favor of gay marriage, yet many a liberal hen here supported her in the past anyway. I guess if you are a Democrat, it doesn't matter what your position on gay marriage is.


    not really. she instructed the state department to extend rights to employees in same sex couples long before it was cool. as opposed to being just a mouthpiece, she actually did stuff.


    What rights exactly? Is it permissible for one department head to extend rights to individuals that another department doesn't? Was she extending rights to State Departmment personnel that Treasury Department personnel weren't getting? Is this possible? Legal? Fair?
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    Mar 20, 2013 7:26 PM GMT
    intensity69 said
    Medjai said
    TallNYguy said
    Medjai said
    You guys really want a woman in the power seat? It'd be a new war every time her 'monthly gift' arrived...


    I think Hillary is past that age, so no issue here. icon_wink.gif


    True. She'll just be plagued by hot flashes


    I think that she's past that, too. She's 65.


    A bit off topic, but here is Hillary in 1969 ( 21 years old)

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  • Montague

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    Mar 20, 2013 8:39 PM GMT
    Stan24 said
    intensity69 said
    Medjai said
    TallNYguy said
    Medjai said
    You guys really want a woman in the power seat? It'd be a new war every time her 'monthly gift' arrived...


    I think Hillary is past that age, so no issue here. icon_wink.gif


    True. She'll just be plagued by hot flashes


    I think that she's past that, too. She's 65.


    A bit off topic, but here is Hillary in 1969 ( 21 years old)



    She eerily looks the same almost. hah
    Great genes though!
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    Mar 20, 2013 8:41 PM GMT
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    calibro said
    southbeach1500 saidSo... prior to today Hillary was NOT in favor of gay marriage, yet many a liberal hen here supported her in the past anyway. I guess if you are a Democrat, it doesn't matter what your position on gay marriage is.


    not really. she instructed the state department to extend rights to employees in same sex couples long before it was cool. as opposed to being just a mouthpiece, she actually did stuff.


    What rights exactly? Is it permissible for one department head to extend rights to individuals that another department doesn't? Was she extending rights to State Departmment personnel that Treasury Department personnel weren't getting? Is this possible? Legal? Fair?


    http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/06/125083.htm
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    Mar 20, 2013 9:37 PM GMT
    TallNYguy said
    Medjai said
    You guys really want a woman in the power seat? It'd be a new war every time her 'monthly gift' arrived...


    I think Hillary is past that age, so no issue here. icon_wink.gif


    Chillery is past many ages and would not only be a very old women by then, but maybe even Americas oldest President too.

    But I'm sure one of the first things she would have to do is to start a war, too prove the hairs on her chest, do indeed go all the way own to her balls, and she can play the mans game as good as the blokes.