xrichx saidThe term "natural" is subjective. If you use creatine, protein powders, or any other supplements, then you're not "natural".
ding, ding, ding. i said that on bb.com misc forum once and boy did those people get mad. protein shakes aren't natural. all you have to do is just eat, train, be consistent and have patience. if you don't do that, don't expect results.
the thing that irks me the most is how people try to put a time result on results and how people think that having a muscular or ripped appearance means that they are healthy. you have some of these guys trying to act as their own doctor when they don't even know what the hell they're doing. these 20 something year olds are dropping dead because of that broscientist bullshit.
another thing too. some of these physiques that are pushed outthere are examples of body dysmorphia. you know, unless you're a genetic freak, there's a limit that your body can go to, you know. anything behind that, you need "help" and "help" can fuck you up. the natural body that these fitness companies try to push damn sure ain't natural to begin with. most of them are either genetic freaks, roid heads or photoshopped bullshit.