NAMBLA: Does it really Exist?

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    Oct 13, 2008 3:32 PM GMT
    Or is it part of the anti-gay propaganda machine?
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    Oct 13, 2008 3:36 PM GMT
    It exists. I'm not sure how big it is. It has been linked by anti-gay forces to our community to sow fear. However, it should be noted that NAMBLA was permitted to march in early Gay Pride marches in some cities, which didn't help us in trying to distance ourselves from the pedophilia accusations.
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    Oct 13, 2008 4:16 PM GMT
    It does and they really do lobby. I'd love to hear how that conversation gets opened. "So, Senator, I'd like to discuss with you today the positive aspects of......"
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    Oct 13, 2008 6:28 PM GMT
    NoNameGuy saidOr is it part of the anti-gay propaganda machine?



    I think the name changed to the Catholic Church!
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    Oct 13, 2008 6:42 PM GMT
    NoNameGuy saidOr is it part of the anti-gay propaganda machine?


    both.

    In anti-gay rhetoric you hear of NAMBLA all the time. I am sure its presence in such rhetoric is much larger than it is in the sexual/moral dialogue.
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    Oct 13, 2008 6:58 PM GMT
    It was a big deal when Harry Hay, sort of the founder of the modern gay rights movement, joined NAMBLA and walked with them in the "alternative march" during the Stonewall anniversary celebration in NY about 10 years ago.

    I went to Pussy Tourette's sex workshop during that and Harry was there defending something they liked to compare to the Greeks' educational pederasty.
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    Oct 13, 2008 7:32 PM GMT
    If RJ were the gay BBS to which I belonged in the 1990s, we'd all have lost our online memberships for even mentioning NAMBLA here. That BBS's gay owner hated NAMBLA so much he made an absolute TOS rule against it being mentioned or referenced in any way, even to criticize it.

    Besides the harm he felt NAMBLA does to young boys, he also decried the harm it does to the gay rights movement. I concur with the view about the bad that NAMBLA causes, although censorship also bothers me.

    NAMBLA's claims of precedents in ancient Greek culture have never persuaded me. First, it makes the assumption that the ancients were correct regarding this practice, and our modern values are wrong. Second, it ignores the fact that even the Greeks themselves were not all comfortable with giving a young boy over to a full-time male mentor.

    (One of the charges against Socrates when he was forced to drink the cup of hemlock was "corrupting the youth" of Athens. Scholars debate whether this was a general reference to his anti-democratic teachings, or related to actual acts of pederasty)

    Quite frankly, a similar fate for NAMBLA members would not distress me.
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    Oct 13, 2008 8:32 PM GMT
    Koaa2 said
    NoNameGuy saidOr is it part of the anti-gay propaganda machine?



    I think the name changed to the Catholic Church!


    ooh take care for speaking out against the catholics. You will become a subject of hate, as I have. Dose not matter I had this evil instertusion forced onto me as a wee one, and the raped my soul, and helped too murder my one and only childhood, and those nuns are just as wicked cruel and violent, as I remember.

    But this dose not matter there are catholics, who will do their best too repress the truth, something this organisation as a long history of,
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    Oct 13, 2008 8:38 PM GMT
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    NoNameGuy saidOr is it part of the anti-gay propaganda machine?


    both.

    In anti-gay rhetoric you hear of NAMBLA all the time. I am sure its presence in such rhetoric is much larger than it is in the sexual/moral dialogue.


    Well I must not know anyone who is anti gay, as until now, I have never herd of em. I may of started to have sex at 5. But I have no interest in people whom molested & rape the souls as well kill the childhoods of children for their own self gratification.
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    Oct 13, 2008 11:37 PM GMT
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    NoNameGuy saidOr is it part of the anti-gay propaganda machine?


    they did an episode on "South Park" with NAMBLA, so it must be true lol ! just like that episode where Tom Cruise is trapped in the "Closet" lol icon_biggrin.gif


    Yup. North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes...
    Seriously though, a bookstore in WeHo once had a small section with NAMBLA pamphlets and books. I couldn't look through them for very long. It seemed akin to a group promoting rape and how rape might be good for the victim.
    I watched Lockup: Pendleton Juvenile". Plenty of those kids had been molested and more molestation wouldn't do them good.
    There was something else I saw about a few guys who communicate with each other and the main guy lives in Europe but is harassed all the time about his love for boys.
    Can't see this anything any well-adjusted adult would even have time for...
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    Oct 13, 2008 11:40 PM GMT
    I may be the only one that does not know, but what is NAMBLA ?
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    Oct 13, 2008 11:44 PM GMT
    dftwater saidI may be the only one that does not know, but what is NAMBLA ?

    From Wikipedia:

    "The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a New York City and San Francisco-based unincorporated organization in the United States that advocates the legalization of sexual relations between adult males and under-aged boys. It has resolved to "end the oppression of men and boys who have freely chosen mutually consenting relationships" in spite of the fact that such relationships constitute child sexual abuse under U.S. law, as the minor is unable to give legal consent."
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    Oct 14, 2008 12:21 AM GMT
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    Oct 30, 2008 12:25 AM GMT
    it does exist
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    Oct 30, 2008 12:32 AM GMT
    dftwater saidI may be the only one that does not know, but what is NAMBLA ?

    North American Marlon Brando Lookalike Association