"Meet the Gaybros"

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    Mar 20, 2013 11:27 PM GMT
    http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/03/gaybros_the_reddit_group_of_macho_gay_boys_and_their_trouble_with_fellow.html?wpisrc=newsletter_jcr:content

    Read this article today, I don't speak up on these forums much but read them frequently. I notice a lot of what they highlight in the article, in terms of gays disliking each other based on personality traits or individuals misinterpreting things said for being that, goes on a lot in these forums. I wanted to share it with everyone, just for perspective. I was just curious what everyone's thoughts were on this perception that we may be discluding those that are different from us?

    My thoughts are that these guys are simply trying to connect with each other in a place other than the traditional gay setting. I have mostly straight male friends, that I met through school, my fraternity and whatnot and love having gay guys to talk to, hang out with and relate to in the same way I always have...in these types of settings.This comes to mind when they start talking about the word brotherhood and being comfortable talking with a brother about anything. I'm lucky enough that I have friends that play on both sides of the fence that I have this relationship with.

    Anyways, I think as issues about homosexual rights in the U.S. and the rest of the world seem to be coming to the forefront of the social agenda there is going to be less and less room for gays to be bickering about what makes someone gay, or whether or not because I choose to wear a baseball cap or a fedora I'm a better man...Idk. Random rant, wanted to share. Peace guys!
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    Mar 21, 2013 4:22 AM GMT
    http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/03/gaybros_the_reddit_group_of_macho_gay_boys_and_their_trouble_with_fellow.html?wpisrc=newsletter_jcr:content
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    Mar 21, 2013 4:32 AM GMT
    good grief, what an over-analytic piece of flap. The author isn't really stating anything new other than highlighting this online group.
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    Mar 21, 2013 4:37 AM GMT
    I have my popcorn ready....
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    Mar 21, 2013 4:41 AM GMT
    I think I might have to come out of the closet as a "gaybro"

    Though I don't hunt (unless you count hunting for parking spaces), I can hold a mediocre football/ baseball conversation, and I choke when I try to say the word "bro" (i'm more of a dude)

    Does that make me guysexual?

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    Mar 21, 2013 4:50 AM GMT
    Myol saidI have my popcorn ready....



    *steals your popcorn, eats, then wears the carton as a hat proclaiming himself the Knight of Corndom*
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    Mar 21, 2013 4:54 AM GMT
    Just when you thought that the gay community was tired of all the segregation within our country, we found a new way to bring segregation closer to home. icon_eek.gif
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    Mar 21, 2013 4:56 AM GMT
    Remember that film The Adonis Factor?
    Yeah, it's just like that.
    But in word form.
    And talking about brotherhood of masculinity.


    In other words... TL;DR
    Don't need to read it.
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    Mar 21, 2013 5:00 AM GMT
    I thought it was interesting.

    I do think a fair number of RJ'ers have little understanding of the culture they disown. Every day I read another comment about what "most gays" think or do that bears little resemblance to the gay men I know. Not that they'd fit in on RJ at all, either. Men are just far more multifaceted than you'd think from reading this site. The author makes the point that many of the gaybros are young and/or closeted and the slice of gayness that those groups see is pretty limited.

    I have many gaybroerrific interests and skills, but I'd not want to give myself a label borne of exclusion.
  • slimnmuscly

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    Mar 21, 2013 12:18 PM GMT
    The last three paragraphs are the best:


    As Michael Warner writes in The Trouble with Normal, “queers do not have the institutions for common memory and generational transmission around which straight culture is built. Every new wave of queer youth picks up something from its predecessors but also invents itself from scratch. Many are convinced that they have nothing to learn from old dykes and clones and trolls, and no institutions … ensure that this will happen.” Take that with the generational void caused by AIDS, and you have a perfect recipe for a generation who rejects “gay culture” while knowing little, if anything, about it.

    But then again, with maturity comes evolution. Deluca said that due to criticisms like mine, he and the other moderators have officially decided to drop the term “stereotype” from the Gaybros materials. This is a great step, and indeed, any adjustment of language (short of renaming themselves) that can help disentangle Gaybros from the gay culture wars is to be encouraged. The group has too much potential as a lively new model for engaging with issues like coming-out, political correctness, community-building and the rest to get waylaid by the old traps of masculine privilege and Andrew Sullivan-style queer-shaming. And of course, as gay culture is redefined for the 21st century, there’s nothing that says the Gaybros can’t bring their guns, video-game controllers, and sports sticks to the club as well.

    Speaking of clubs, I went to a second meet-up at a busy New York gay bar a few weeks ago with the intention of snatching a few more quotes. When I pushed in to the at-capacity room, however, I realized my plan was hopeless. The Gaybros, according to their posted itinerary, were somewhere there among the queens, Brooklyn hipsters, and shirtless go-go boys, drinking and flirting and laughing and hoping. But they were indistinguishable from the rest of their brothers.

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    Mar 21, 2013 2:28 PM GMT
    CFL_Oakland saidI thought it was interesting.

    I do think a fair number of RJ'ers have little understanding of the culture they disown. Every day I read another comment about what "most gays" think or do that bears little resemblance to the gay men I know. Not that they'd fit in on RJ at all, either. Men are just far more multifaceted than you'd think from reading this site. The author makes the point that many of the gaybros are young and/or closeted and the slice of gayness that those groups see is pretty limited.

    I have many gaybroerrific interests and skills, but I'd not want to give myself a label borne of exclusion.


    This (in bold)!!!!
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    Mar 21, 2013 2:36 PM GMT
    RoadsterRacer87 saidgood grief, what an over-analytic piece of flap. The author isn't really stating anything new other than highlighting this online group.

    Spot on, Double Ricon_wink.gif
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    Mar 21, 2013 2:58 PM GMT
    lol

    Lol

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    !!!
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    Mar 21, 2013 3:24 PM GMT
    RoadsterRacer87 saidgood grief, what an over-analytic piece of flap. The author isn't really stating anything new other than highlighting this online group.


    There really isn't any such thing as over-analysis, only incorrect analysis. And remember, this is published in a medium targeted toward the mainstream straight audience. Most heteros of any age have no idea of the complexity of identity formation all gays engage in, whether "masc" or "femme." My own family says all the time "Are you sure you're gay? You don't act like one." (This is false. I am not a gaybro. It's because my parents have such a caricatured stereotype of gaydom that only a fag in drag dropping extra-sibilant 's's would qualify).

    Few straight people are even exposed to the conceptual categories all gays are forced to face head-on. .
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    Mar 21, 2013 3:52 PM GMT
    Slickdog21 saidJust when you thought that the gay community was tired of all the segregation within our country, we found a new way to bring segregation closer to home. icon_eek.gif


    Really? Tired of segregation? Please. The gay community is all about segregation and labeling; hence, the ridiculous gay animal kingdom. Seriously, why do we have to be bears, cubs, wolves, monkeys, pups, etc. It's nauseating. When did just being a man not be good enough?
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    Mar 21, 2013 3:58 PM GMT
    I say: all power to them. Although, I have to say that the OP is mistaken in that these people are certainly going to gay bars (Fritz).

    I don't see what's new here, to be honest. Every gay generation that has ever lived has loudly claimed to be ridding itself of gay culture... and yet it strangely seems to persist.

    So again: good for them for making a friendly group in an unfriendly city (Boston). I doubt, as the conclusion of the article suggests, that there's really a radical new gay life here but I hope they have fun.
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    Mar 21, 2013 4:00 PM GMT
    Wait, so after reading the article I all of a sudden realized all gay men are not swishy queens, cutting hair and dishing about hair products and Butt sex.
    Dang, thanks for that, cause I was pretty sure that's all any gay man could ever be.
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    Mar 21, 2013 4:16 PM GMT
    Gaybros irritate the Werqin Gurls because the Werqin Gurls are doing what any group does: policing group identity boundaries to make their traits "in" and make opposing traits "out".
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    Mar 21, 2013 4:19 PM GMT
    smartmoney saidWait, so after reading the article I all of a sudden realized all gay men are not swishy queens, cutting hair and dishing about hair products and Butt sex.


    I know—you could be a doctor, and engineer, a lawyer, a scientist!

    IMAGINE all that you could do if you left Broadway and Cosmetology school!????!?!??!??!
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    Mar 21, 2013 4:32 PM GMT
    What is the point of any of this?

    Some Guys like hair and make up.

    Some Guys like hunting and fishing.

    ALL of Us are looking to bond with a few others and find someone We Love.



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    Mar 21, 2013 4:38 PM GMT
    Cash saidWhat is the point of any of this?

    Some Guys like hair and make up.

    Some Guys like hunting and fishing.

    ALL of Us are looking to bond with a few others and find someone We Love.





    Some of us just wanna get laid. Thanks for making me feel alone now I need to start a Reddit support group.
  • LaxJock16

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    Mar 21, 2013 4:41 PM GMT
    According to this many of the gays I know, including myself would be considered a "gaybro"... Reading the article deeper it actually is a social commentary piece and shows that there are a section of gay men out there who aren't what many in the media and whatnot view as stereotypical. It wasn't written for gays to read but for straight women and men to read... We are just the vehicle in the article though masculinity is the center of the piece. The thing is if you go to the reddit site it is quite funny and a place where many gays can go to to have a place where we aren't referred to as girls or whatnot... I think it is about time that someone tackled this. I mean we are much more than what many see out there and sure it creates a social circle in a community but then again the queens have been more vocal.
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    Mar 22, 2013 2:25 AM GMT
    just seems like another stereotype. fuck why can't people just be themselves and not give a rats ass about what others think?
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    Mar 22, 2013 2:52 AM GMT
    willular saidjust seems like another stereotype. fuck why can't people just be themselves and not give a rats ass about what others think?


    Because birds of a feather flock together.
  • metta

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    Mar 31, 2013 4:16 PM GMT
    Why We Need Gaybros

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shawn-ahmed/why-we-need-gaybros_b_2975480.html