Do you have a vice you are hanging on too?

  • Aquanerd

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    Oct 14, 2008 2:05 AM GMT
    Most of the men on this site appear to be either healthy or trying to get healthy. To that end we have all probably given up some vices in order to be healthier. So which of your vices are you still partaking, either because it is to difficult, or you just don't want to give it up.

    For me, it is caffeine. It's he only thing I can't/wont stop. If stopped in the past, when I was sick and couldn't drink coffee, I went through the withdrawals, and thought about not starting it up again. But then I walk by the neighborhood Ethiopian coffee shop and bingo, I'm hooked again. My dad's urologist told me that caffeine is the worse thing you can do to your kidneys, so once I get my weight down to goal, I'll try to kick it again.

    Now I will still have a "Dark Chocolate Lindt truffle," a slice or two of "Kosmic Karma" and "Mellow Mushroom," or bottle of Toohey's New @ Taco Mac, and i will continue to get the fillet @ Chops, but that doesn't count. icon_cool.gif
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    Oct 14, 2008 2:08 AM GMT
    Sometimes, and I mean this has to be like I better be feeling like completely and utter shit, I will (like I used to) make pre- mixed cake batter and eat it raw right out of the creamy delicious bowl.

    I know.
    I know.
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    Oct 14, 2008 2:14 AM GMT
    Is caffeine a "vice?" If so, then I would be guilty of that. One or two morning cups of coffee, maybe a Coke once or twice during the week, if that.

    My greater vice would be alcohol, but then I hear conflicting reports about its benefits in moderation.

    Seriously, what are the real vices? Perhaps those need to be defined in order to answer this question. I suppose tobacco, excess alcohol and recreational drugs would qualify? What else would?
  • Aquanerd

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    Oct 14, 2008 2:21 AM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidIs caffeine a "vice?" If so, then I would be guilty of that. One or two morning cups of coffee, maybe a Coke once or twice during the week, if that.

    My greater vice would be alcohol, but then I hear conflicting reports about its benefits in moderation.

    Seriously, what are the real vices? Perhaps those need to be defined in order to answer this question. I suppose tobacco, excess alcohol and recreational drugs would qualify? What else would?


    I figured I'd let the posters define their individual vice; serious or fun, you decide.

  • Aquanerd

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    Oct 14, 2008 2:25 AM GMT
    moltovivace saidSometimes, and I mean this has to be like I better be feeling like completely and utter shit, I will (like I used to) make pre- mixed cake batter and eat it raw right out of the creamy delicious bowl.

    I know.
    I know.


    It's okay, I am having great flashbacks to licking the beaters after my mom poured the Red Velvet batter into the pans. Or was that licking Red Vespa's Beater?icon_cool.gif

    Now that would be a vice.
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    Oct 14, 2008 2:33 AM GMT
    but its only a vice when you feel guilty about having it..

    Never be guilty of having food.. you need it to live, it should be enjoyed to its fullest extent, but you don't have to eat a ton of it, to enjoy it.

    I am partial to cinnamon scrolls and crunchies and pancakes
  • Hagan_F

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    Oct 14, 2008 2:40 AM GMT
    Pie when I go out to eat at a restaurant.
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    Oct 14, 2008 3:26 AM GMT
    My name is runninchlt and I have an insatiable sweet tooth.

    Anyone want to help start up a realjock chapter of sugar addicts anonymous? icon_razz.gif
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    Oct 14, 2008 4:37 AM GMT
    I question the statement that coffee is "detrimental" to your kidneys.....maybe if it was the only bev you consumed all day long. A cup or two a day does no harm and it's loaded with antioxidants.
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    Oct 14, 2008 7:09 AM GMT
    Smoking.


    *Sigh*
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    Oct 14, 2008 8:52 AM GMT
    I have to admit, I am a sugar addict as well...I indulge in cakes, cookies, ice cream...at times i mix them all together...even worse is that i crave, and at times satisfy my cravings right before bed.....forgive me father for i have sinnedicon_twisted.gificon_exclaim.gif
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    Oct 14, 2008 8:54 AM GMT
    *sigh*....I feel much better know....full of shame, yes...but better that I got that off my chest............icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 14, 2008 11:20 AM GMT
    I'm a cum addict. Does that count?icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 14, 2008 11:32 AM GMT
    kscott667,

    That aint a vice...that's necessary for survival, just like air and water!
    My vice is ice cream and chocolate.
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    Oct 14, 2008 11:41 AM GMT
    That makes me feel bettericon_lol.gif
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    Oct 14, 2008 11:48 AM GMT
    I don't have any vices. I give myself permission to have, do what ever I want, but I do try not to overindulge. After nursing in aged care. I have no need or want to get old, we are here for only a short time, enjoy it; I am! Life is also to short not to drink.

    I known people who never smocked yet they die of cancer, or a car crash.

    I have no vices.
  • Aquanerd

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    Oct 14, 2008 12:04 PM GMT
    Me thinks some of you missed the light hearted intent of my original post.




























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    Oct 14, 2008 12:28 PM GMT
    Smoking....

    Trying to quit again. My TQD is 11/3/08. Going with the patch and accupuncture.
  • Aquanerd

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    Oct 14, 2008 12:35 PM GMT
    sixxfive saidI question the statement that coffee is "detrimental" to your kidneys.....maybe if it was the only bev you consumed all day long. A cup or two a day does no harm and it's loaded with antioxidants.


    I checked WebMD to remember the reasons. It really depends on the ratio of regular coffee (or anything with caffeine) and water. Anything that causes you to be dehydrated puts stress on your kidneys. I guess if your caffeine intake is less the equivalent of 3 cups of regular coffee, and your younger than say 45, then your probably not going to have any detrimental effect. But if you drink 2 or three cups, and drink caffeinated sodas, and eat chocolate , and take an analgesic w/caffeine (Excedrin), or any number of foods with caffeine, then you probably need to be drinking more than 48 oz of water. Plus, regular consumption of coffee does result in continuous increase in blood pressure which can also put additional stress on kidneys, via adrenal exhaustion.

    Sorry, my dad died of Kidney Failure while in Hospice Care for bone cancer. Just wanted to pass on the info I'd gotten from his doctors.

    (As an aside, I hope every guy who reads this is getting a P.S.A. Test if they are over 50, and over 40 if they have a family history. My dad didn't and when his prostrate cancer was diagnosed, the prognosis was 75% chance of beating the prostrate cancer, but 100% change that he would get bone cancer within 5 years. Four and a half years later he had bone cancer that eventually lead to his death.) Again. Just wanted to pass on the info. I know I was hoping that this forum stayed light, but I thought this info was something you guy should be aware of, use it as you will.

    And FYI, for those TOP's out there, no need for a digital exam for enlarger prostrate as part of prostrate cancer exam, with the use of the P.S.A. test. You BOTTOMS can feel free to continue with the "old school" exam icon_cool.gif
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    Oct 14, 2008 12:56 PM GMT
    I drink coffee. Is that a vice? To me it is one of the simple pleasures of life. I only drink 2-3 cups a day so it is not as if I am going overboard.

    I just came from my doctor's appointment. He is very happy with my health. Blood pressure is 110/74, weight is around 153 lbs., bad cholesterol is 1.2 (needs to be under 2.0), CD4 count is 710, undetected viral load. So I am not going to change anything!
  • SanEsteban

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    Oct 14, 2008 1:19 PM GMT
    I have a huge vice... Diet RockStar! I could drink those nonstop! Chocolate is also a big vice for me too but I seems to do better restraining from that - likely I think of all the calories I would eat and how long I would have to be at the gym to burn it all off! Diet Rockstar is the better alternative between the two even though there can be a lot of negative press regarding energy drinks!icon_eek.gif
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    Oct 14, 2008 2:07 PM GMT
    eating foodicon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 14, 2008 2:26 PM GMT
    Smoking is my vice. I started hen I was 16. I'm 23. I don't smoke more than 2 or 3 a day, but its hard to give it up completely. But I'm still trying.icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 14, 2008 2:48 PM GMT
    lilTanker saidbut its only a vice when you feel guilty about having it..


    In THAT case, NO!!!
  • TallGWMvballe...

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    Oct 14, 2008 5:22 PM GMT
    Yup. coffee is my last vice!
    Well, and the occasional binge with Cheetos icon_smile.gif