VERY DISTURBING VIDEO: Rev. Arnold Conrad at McCain Rally

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    Oct 14, 2008 8:17 AM GMT
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g0d3_KE5js

    If they think they're going to divide and conquer and split the country even more apart than it is - they've done a fine job.

    They can say what they want about Rev. Wright......they have just found their own......absolutely disgusting..........they know they're fighting a losing battle and are trying everything.......this is appalling...listen to what he says - it is hideous!

    Here are some comments from deeply religious Christian persons about this video:

    "The problem is not Christ or "Christians," per se, but rather the lack of outrage among people of faith for leaders who blaspheme the name of God with the poison of their own selfish, failed politics."

    "In Nazi Germany, people like Rev Conrad were called Evangelical "Deutsche-Christen". Rev. Conrad got his Divinity Degree in 2004 from an Evangelical school close to the Billy Graham Chicago "Christian" political machine. "Share the Vision" and "Be Good Listeners" are standard rhetoric in the New Fascist cult rallies ... and Be Afraid of Armageddon (the Gestapo)."

    "There is only one God, I can believe this crap he's saying coming from a Pastor, he must be Satan."

    "All I can say is: Rev. Conrad, I know the Lord I am serving and his true prophets. You, are no person to speak for him!"

    "This is an example of why religion should stay out of politics. Whatever god there is cares no more about America than any other country much less whom we elect as president. This man is delusional. Dishonest people running a dishonest campaign will stoop to any depths."

    And my personal favorite:

    "In every country and every age, the Christian clergy have been hostile to Liberty." Thomas Jefferson

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    Oct 14, 2008 4:27 PM GMT
    I listened to it and my mouth was agape the entire time!
  • vindog

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    Oct 14, 2008 4:36 PM GMT
    I would re-title this

    SEMI-DISTURBING VIDEO....





    standard Evangelical fare
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    Oct 14, 2008 4:41 PM GMT
    Contrary to what the man says, what happens re: the election is not in God's hands, but in the voters' hands. It's a democracy, not rule by divine intervention.

    But then, he's not actually praying to God, but speaking to the crowd, at least the way I hear it.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Oct 14, 2008 5:38 PM GMT
    Actually the start to the prayer wasn't offensive, it was the "politization" of the prayer by bringing up "the opponent's" name is totally inappropriate
    and why I find this sort SO offensive. I would have walked out.
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    Oct 14, 2008 5:45 PM GMT
    The most disturbing aspect to this is that he got applause.
  • Laurence

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    Oct 14, 2008 5:49 PM GMT
    ..and that the silly old fart can't even get the names of other religion's gods right. Is there a god called Hindu?

    Hopefully Obama's victory might make him question his religious beliefs.

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    Oct 14, 2008 6:52 PM GMT
    God's reputation !!??? God's reputation !!??? What the f#ck is that suppose to mean? As if, God was some sort of high school kid worried about his frickin' reputation. I thought these "Christians" were convinced that no matter what, God's reputation is good and all powerful...apparently this sort of "prayer" challenges that. That is truly messed up.
  • auryn

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    Oct 14, 2008 6:57 PM GMT
    "I would also add, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god — whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah — that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons. And Lord, I pray that you will guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and election day."

    Since I'm at work and can't see youtube stuff, I had to go google and saw this excerpt... and If that isn't the most self-absorbed, pretentious bunch of shlock that I've heard of in awhile. Who does this clown think he is? He needs to go back to Bible School and learn that he can't twist God's arm with this empty rhetoric. And he needs to know that there are just as many Christians that are Democrats as there are Republican, so he just lost.
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    Oct 14, 2008 6:58 PM GMT
    Its rather sad that some conservative Christian's will never understand that ALLAH = GOD.

    But I suppose that is too much to ask...since obviously in their minds the Bible was written in English nearly 1800 years ago...

    There is an Islam for Dummies...maybe that will help....icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 14, 2008 7:45 PM GMT
    Just another evangelical preacher running his mouth. There are so many of these charlatans - if you want a real laugh, check out all of those who are offering "miracle spring water" or the "green prayer cloths" that you can lay on your tumor and heal it - or lay on your check book and grow money. They get these people up out of wheelchairs, put hands on their foreheads, and shove them down, someone catches the person - then stands him or her up - and bingo - he's healed of tumors, arthritis, any malady you can name! All you have to do is call in and "plant a seed of faith - with your money."

    I agree that it is disturbing that these preachers are so abundant. They don't attend Seminary or any sort of conventional schooling - and instead they can send in their $35.00 and presto - they're a preacher. Saddest of all are the kinds of poor, uneducated, down-trodden people that flock to these kinds of preachers. Check the audiences when the camera pans around - can you see any intelligence out there among those poor people?
  • GQjock

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    Oct 14, 2008 8:14 PM GMT
    But Reverend Wright is what we talk about icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 14, 2008 8:14 PM GMT
    Poor "Lord"/God. He really doesn't want to be involved in this. I think He would rather just let us vote freely.

    I also love the Christian principle that one should NEVER tests the Lord your God. But isn't that exactly what he does when he says that the other Gods will think they are better than You (thus his God better help the election)?

    Sigh, religion isn't a bad thing, just too many people make it that way.
  • Barricade

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    Oct 14, 2008 9:28 PM GMT
    Pathetic, even if your not religious you can hear whats wrong with that "prayer". God's reputation is on the line? lol. icon_eek.gif
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    Oct 14, 2008 9:48 PM GMT
    Beefy_artist saidIts rather sad that some conservative Christian's will never understand that ALLAH = GOD.

    But I suppose that is too much to ask...since obviously in their minds the Bible was written in English nearly 1800 years ago...

    There is an Islam for Dummies...maybe that will help....icon_wink.gif


    Soory to tell you this, but your comment is no better than the "alledged" Reverend's comment. Allah is only God to another religion. No better than the "Christian" rhetoric that guy just spouted.

    As long as you espouse attitudes like yours, and the "Christians" espouse attitudes like what we saw on the video, both religions are doomed to endless conflict.
  • coolarmydude

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    Oct 14, 2008 10:12 PM GMT
    Folks, that's blasphemy! According to the Bible, he should be stoned to death, right?


    It is blasphemous to challenge God and dare remind him that HIS REPUTATION is on the line, especially involving a mankind event. I would have to ask, if Obama wins, does he and other "Christians" who agree feel that they will lose all faith in God and will finally give up?

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    Can I get that in writing?
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    Oct 14, 2008 10:18 PM GMT
    You guys obviously don't get it.

    The preacher is just concerned that the other gods won't let God sit at the cool lunch table. Think how miserable he'll be all afternoon, wondering why the other gods snicker at him in the hallway.
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    Oct 14, 2008 10:42 PM GMT
    zeebyaboi said
    Beefy_artist saidIts rather sad that some conservative Christian's will never understand that ALLAH = GOD.

    But I suppose that is too much to ask...since obviously in their minds the Bible was written in English nearly 1800 years ago...

    There is an Islam for Dummies...maybe that will help....icon_wink.gif


    Soory to tell you this, but your comment is no better than the "alledged" Reverend's comment. Allah is only God to another religion. No better than the "Christian" rhetoric that guy just spouted.

    As long as you espouse attitudes like yours, and the "Christians" espouse attitudes like what we saw on the video, both religions are doomed to endless conflict.


    Ummm, all he is saying is that Allah is the same God as the Christian God, the God of Abraham - Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same God.
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    Oct 14, 2008 10:52 PM GMT
    More cuckoos. I am shocked! ;-)
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    Oct 14, 2008 11:05 PM GMT
    daystroom said
    Ummm, all he is saying is that Allah is the same God as the Christian God, the God of Abraham - Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same God.


    That's not what I got from it. It sounded to me as if he was saying that the only god is Allah. If I'm mistaken, my apologies. But he might want to clarify his statement.