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  • PolaroidSwing...

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    Mar 28, 2013 5:19 PM GMT
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  • Timbales

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    Mar 28, 2013 6:10 PM GMT
    Laptop design doesn't leave much room for innovation.
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    Mar 28, 2013 6:44 PM GMT
    Timbales saidLaptop design doesn't leave much room for innovation.


    Sure a little overlap is to be expected; but this is blatant plagiarism.
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    Mar 28, 2013 6:51 PM GMT
    "Good artists copy; great artists steal." -- Steve Jobs

  • Guycicle

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    Mar 28, 2013 7:49 PM GMT
    What's specifically unique about the Mac design?
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    Mar 28, 2013 8:15 PM GMT
    Guycicle saidWhat's specifically unique about the Mac design?


    The trademark aluminum unibody design (with/without the black glass), the recessed black chiclet keyboard, the webcam implantation, the design and placement of the oversized trackpad and lid hatch.

    I will say that they managed to reuse the old school Powerbook hinges, so kudos to them for reviving a classic I guess.
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    Mar 28, 2013 10:55 PM GMT
    yourname2000 saidNot getting this thread. icon_confused.gif Chromebook's goal isn't to compete with macbooks, it's to be a cheap and effective laptop, isn't it? It's $270....at that price, isn't it a "macbook fail"??


    The point is, that instead of coming up with their own design they just aped an existing one, almost to a tee. Cloud computers are a relatively new concept, this should have been an opportunity to be creative.

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    Mar 28, 2013 11:31 PM GMT
    Timbales saidLaptop design doesn't leave much room for innovation.


    You got to admit that many companies have moved away from black plastic finishes on laptops after Apple started selling MacBooks with an elegant/premium feel built from a single piece of aluminum.
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    Mar 28, 2013 11:32 PM GMT
    yourname2000 saidNot getting this thread. icon_confused.gif Chromebook's goal isn't to compete with macbooks, it's to be a cheap and effective laptop, isn't it? It's $270....at that price, isn't it a "macbook fail"??



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    Mar 29, 2013 12:01 AM GMT
    I guess, I just think it's a tasteless practice. After another companies design team has spent countless hours and dollars coming up with concepts, submitting ideas, and building prototypes; it's all too easy to come in and swipe out the finished product from underneath them.
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    Mar 29, 2013 12:06 AM GMT
    Unintended saidGoogle Xerox PARC before spewing about Apple originality.


    I'm familiar with the story; but this isn't really about Apple.
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    Mar 29, 2013 12:12 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidYeah, I hate Apple too....they'll steal shit from anywhere and then try to patent it as their own. "Rounded corners are our trademark", yeah right. icon_rolleyes.gif Like no one throughout all of history has ever thought about rounded corners, lol. icon_rolleyes.gif


    C'mon, this isn't about arbitrary design features. They created an almost exact clone of an existing product; copy and paste.
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    Mar 29, 2013 12:25 AM GMT
    Unintended saidWho gives a shit if the product is of equal quality and a lower price?


    The original design team, I would imagine.

    (Also, the chromebook is not comparable, or really a laptop. It's a web-based netbook that is incapable of running non-bundled software.)
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    Mar 29, 2013 12:28 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    charlitos said
    Timbales saidLaptop design doesn't leave much room for innovation.


    You got to admit that many companies have moved away from black plastic finishes on laptops after Apple started selling MacBooks with an elegant/premium feel built from a single piece of aluminum.

    But that's not this market, is it?

    I really don't see much difference between Chromebook, macbook or Toshiba or Sony's laptop offerings. Like celphones, everyone is stepping on everyone else at this point: it's a mature product.

    Anyway, my point was only that I don't think Chromebook is trying to be innovative in style, but in price point.



    Apple just gets it when it comes to design, before Apple no OEM gave a shit about spending millions of dollars optimizing design and build quality, Sony's hardware was the closest thing to that.


    As for the chromebooks, it is obviously not trying to set a design standard otherwise they wouldn't look like MacBook rip offs. Google is however trying to appeal to a crowd that values design and build quality over function, unfortunately for them, chromebooks are near useless, you are sacrifing way too much function and your prices ain't that great. In cases you didn't know Chromebooks are laptops running chrome OS which is basically a web browser...so all you can do with it is browse the web and install web addons(apps). The Chrome pixel LTE goes for $1500.
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    Mar 29, 2013 1:37 AM GMT
    PolaroidSwinger said
    Guycicle saidWhat's specifically unique about the Mac design?


    The trademark aluminum unibody design (with/without the black glass), the recessed black chiclet keyboard, the webcam implantation, the design and placement of the oversized trackpad and lid hatch.

    I will say that they managed to reuse the old school Powerbook hinges, so kudos to them for reviving a classic I guess.
    Sony introduced chiclet keyboards first.
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    Mar 29, 2013 2:03 AM GMT
    Unintended saidA bit obsessed?


    No? Again my issue is not Apple specific, it's an integrity problem.
    You don't have to be obsessed to respect the creative process.
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    Mar 29, 2013 2:04 AM GMT
    xrichx saidSony introduced chiclet keyboards first.


    Actually neither of them did, they've been around forever.

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    May 04, 2013 5:24 AM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor saidOK,, so I got a Samsung ChromeBook today, to test out and see if I want to keep it. I have 2 weeks to return it to Best Buy if I don't like it.

    I have to admit,, it's faster than shit and the start up when you open the lid is almost immediate.
    Sure, I have my high end laptop at home that can do almost everything I'd ever need it to do, but to be honest.. this little baby will go to work with me Monday and I'll see if I prefer it to using my iPad.

    So far, I kinda do! I like the keyboard better than my iPad keyboard. Just more ergonomic. It's very lite and thin. A little larger screen than my iPad.
    I'll probably leave it at work in my desk/files for casual browsing at the end of my day.
    I've listened to music on it all night long and the speakers are surprisingly good!
    I can see why they'd invent this concept for the peeps that want a feather lite laptop to haul in their backpack for casual networking.

    I found this one as an open box item and snagged it for $216.99!
    That's nothing for a laptop that's good for hauling around in a bag or briefcase.
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    That's good to know. I was thinking about getting one as a personal web surfing machine for work. The price is so cheap, why not. I saw some guy carry it around the other day and was blown away by how thin it is.
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    May 04, 2013 5:48 AM GMT
    Unintended saidGoogle Xerox PARC before spewing about Apple originality.

    Dude, you're hot, so don't take this the wrong way.

    http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/tech-time-warp-alto-parc-jobs/

    The PARC Alto and the Apple Lisa('83) are quite different from the original Mac design that debuted in '84. If they share a commonality, I suspect it would have to be the mouse.
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    May 04, 2013 6:08 AM GMT
    What I find most hilarious about this thread is that - to my 'untrained eye' - the MacBook Air and Chromebook look VERY LITTLE alike. Honestly. LOOK at IT. Similar keyboards ... ? but that's about it as far as I can tell. Nowhere near copy and paste. And - honestly - the Mac's still look LOADS better. They are just plain sexy. Very few laptops come close to that reality - thin or not.

    Feature/placement - similar... design aesthetic...? Absolutely not.
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    May 04, 2013 4:12 PM GMT
    texassebastian saidThis thread is quite funny. "Trademark aluminum" and "Plagiarism" [of a computer design]... Clearly, this guy is an expert of intellectual property infringement and the "integrity" of corporate competition.


    I don't have to be, this isn't some complex issue. They ripped off an existing design, pretty cut and dry. It's really no different than changing a couple of words in a song and then calling it your own.
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    May 04, 2013 4:19 PM GMT
    manboynyc saidWhat I find most hilarious about this thread is that - to my 'untrained eye' - the MacBook Air and Chromebook look VERY LITTLE alike. Honestly. LOOK at IT. Similar keyboards ... ? but that's about it as far as I can tell. Nowhere near copy and paste. And - honestly - the Mac's still look LOADS better. They are just plain sexy. Very few laptops come close to that reality - thin or not.

    Feature/placement - similar... design aesthetic...? Absolutely not.


    The keyboard, the trackpad, the shape of the body, implementation of glass elements, the opening hatch. All they did was add some padding to the bevel, change the hinges, and move the ports to the back. On the second one they just changed the color of the trackpad, the hinges, and sharpened the corners, otherwise it's near identical.
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    PolaroidSwinger saidI guess, I just think it's a tasteless practice. After another companies design team has spent countless hours and dollars coming up with concepts, submitting ideas, and building prototypes; it's all too easy to come in and swipe out the finished product from underneath them.


    Welcome to America.
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    May 04, 2013 5:23 PM GMT
    Virtually all business is based upon thievery, that is nothing new. Technology is either a monopoly or copying. Anything original is stolen and then the creator destroyed by the thief. From Sun to Facebook, greed attracts pirates. The best thing is to participate as little as possible. And cellphones are stealing your personal life from you. They demand your constant attention and loyalty, allow you no peace or privacy, deform your behavior, your thinking, and your brain. It is all evil. Utterly amoral and exploitive. Someday we will have caught on to all that and controlled it, but in the meantime, everything important will have been destroyed.
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    May 04, 2013 5:26 PM GMT
    I have a chromebook and love it. Not sure what this thread is trying to achieve - did you expect the screen to be where the keyboard is and vice versa?