Moving to America (The good, the bad, the ugly)

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    Mar 28, 2013 8:42 PM GMT
    I just turned 26, i have a full time job i love and also completing a second degree part time. Im presently thinking of moving to the US to get more exposure, live and work to gain more experience and probably come back to Africa to put these knowledge to good use.

    Im thinking of the major cities like New York, California etc (considering the fact i work in fashion)

    Can you guys please advice what it feels like living in the US, why you will never leave the US, generally the pros and con.

    What are the major things i need to know about moving to the US and more importantly to the big cities?

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    Mar 28, 2013 10:12 PM GMT
    The great thing about America is that it is so large and diverse no two regions will give you the same experience. Living in NYC will be a totally different experience than LA or Miami. Some cities, like Detroit or Buffalo, although in America, are almost 3rd world like. They offer very little redeeming qualities and are failed states.

    Just don't set your hopes too high. People come to America expecting the streets to be paved with gold and movie stars in every corner but that it is not the case. Some parts of America will seem like you saw on TV, but by and large most of us live "normal" lives. Unlike South Africa, the privileged here are generally allowed to live without fear.

    I will say that I value my American citizenship and will not give it up for anything in the world. For all it's fault, I still believe the US is the best country in the world and I couldn't imagine leaving here for good, though I certainly wouldn't mind living somewhere else for awhile.


    Where do you think you would want to live?

    I suspect Los Angeles would be a good choice for you. It's fashion scene is large and the some areas can still be affordable. NYC will cost you and arm and leg to live, though it is the fashion capital of the US.
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    Mar 28, 2013 10:19 PM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidThe great thing about America is that it is so large and diverse no two regions will give you the same experience. Living in NYC will be a totally different experience than LA or Miami. Some cities, like Detroit or Buffalo, although in America, are almost 3rd world like. They offer very little redeeming qualities and are failed states.

    Just don't set your hopes too high. People come to America expecting the streets to be paved with gold and movie stars in every corner but that it is not the case. Some parts of America will seem like you saw on TV, but by and large most of us live "normal" lives. Unlike South Africa, the privileged here are generally allowed to live without fear.

    I will say that I value my American citizenship and will not give it up for anything in the world. For all it's fault, I still believe the US is the best country in the world and I couldn't imagine leaving here for good, though I certainly wouldn't mind living somewhere else for awhile.


    Where do you think you would want to live?

    I suspect Los Angeles would be a good choice for you. It's fashion scene is large and the some areas can still be affordable. NYC will cost you and arm and leg to live, though it is the fashion capital of the US.


    This is such a cute post.
    Seriously.

    OP, he sums it up on a very broad and general term and it's an accurate assessment
    Certain parts of America traditionally draw people from all over the world. Places like New York and California. . . obviously.

    Also, Florida is cool place to see. Chicago? Houston? Phoenix? Vegas? Boston? NYC? LA? Atlanta? Seattle? I mean any of those cities are pretty much magnets for people looking for opportunity. Washington, DC too....Philly even?? it's just so big and vast and different everywhere u go, theres really no going wrong.

    I'd avoid places in the deep south likr Mississippi and Alabama... Also large portions of the mid-west are kind of bland and not really worth a see.

    Avoid places like Detroit, Buffalo, Ohio, etc.... you'd be bored.
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    Mar 28, 2013 10:21 PM GMT
    City life is large, hectic and sometimes overwhelming. . . there's always lots of new people to meet though and new experiences to gain.

    Prepare to hustle for your job, because it gets competitive and prepare for high stress levels. Its just a factor of reality. . . though the experiences and the amount of awesome people you will meet will be endless!

    just always have a plan B and C for almost everything haha
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    Mar 28, 2013 10:24 PM GMT
    Cute post?icon_confused.gif
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    Mar 28, 2013 10:32 PM GMT
    well if the choice is LA or NYC there are two huge differences

    1. NYC you will NOT own a car you just can't and don't need to there is no where to park and NYC is tiny so you can subway everywhere, LA you MUST own a car. If you can't drive you cannot live in LA, it's impossible LA is ENORMOUS and full of nothing. And it's right hand roads. Get practising.

    2. NYC is freezing 5 months of the year and hot and humid 5. LA is drier and doesnt get snow.
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    Mar 28, 2013 10:44 PM GMT
    I absolutely loved San Diego when I lived there. I found that the majority of people are really friendly and welcoming. Major sucky bit about coming from London was the shit public transport. That's soon remedied by making your first friends who'll gladly drive you anywhere. The food untrue suuuuuuuuuuucks baaaaaaaalllssss. Groceries are overpriced and the rest is filled with so much artificial bs.
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    Mar 28, 2013 10:48 PM GMT
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    jmusmc85 saidThe great thing about America is that it is so large and diverse no two regions will give you the same experience. Living in NYC will be a totally different experience than LA or Miami. Some cities, like Detroit or Buffalo, although in America, are almost 3rd world like. They offer very little redeeming qualities and are failed states.

    Just don't set your hopes too high. People come to America expecting the streets to be paved with gold and movie stars in every corner but that it is not the case. Some parts of America will seem like you saw on TV, but by and large most of us live "normal" lives. Unlike South Africa, the privileged here are generally allowed to live without fear.

    I will say that I value my American citizenship and will not give it up for anything in the world. For all it's fault, I still believe the US is the best country in the world and I couldn't imagine leaving here for good, though I certainly wouldn't mind living somewhere else for awhile.


    Where do you think you would want to live?

    I suspect Los Angeles would be a good choice for you. It's fashion scene is large and the some areas can still be affordable. NYC will cost you and arm and leg to live, though it is the fashion capital of the US.


    This is such a cute post.
    Seriously.

    OP, he sums it up on a very broad and general term and it's an accurate assessment
    Certain parts of America traditionally draw people from all over the world. Places like New York and California. . . obviously.

    Also, Florida is cool place to see. Chicago? Houston? Phoenix? Vegas? Boston? NYC? LA? Atlanta? Seattle? I mean any of those cities are pretty much magnets for people looking for opportunity. Washington, DC too....Philly even?? it's just so big and vast and different everywhere u go, theres really no going wrong.

    I'd avoid places in the deep south likr Mississippi and Alabama... Also large portions of the mid-west are kind of bland and not really worth a see.

    Avoid places like Detroit, Buffalo, Ohio, etc.... you'd be bored.


    omg! that is such a cute post!!
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    Mar 28, 2013 11:14 PM GMT
    jonnyboy said
    Import said
    jmusmc85 saidThe great thing about America is that it is so large and diverse no two regions will give you the same experience. Living in NYC will be a totally different experience than LA or Miami. Some cities, like Detroit or Buffalo, although in America, are almost 3rd world like. They offer very little redeeming qualities and are failed states.

    Just don't set your hopes too high. People come to America expecting the streets to be paved with gold and movie stars in every corner but that it is not the case. Some parts of America will seem like you saw on TV, but by and large most of us live "normal" lives. Unlike South Africa, the privileged here are generally allowed to live without fear.

    I will say that I value my American citizenship and will not give it up for anything in the world. For all it's fault, I still believe the US is the best country in the world and I couldn't imagine leaving here for good, though I certainly wouldn't mind living somewhere else for awhile.


    Where do you think you would want to live?

    I suspect Los Angeles would be a good choice for you. It's fashion scene is large and the some areas can still be affordable. NYC will cost you and arm and leg to live, though it is the fashion capital of the US.


    This is such a cute post.
    Seriously.

    OP, he sums it up on a very broad and general term and it's an accurate assessment
    Certain parts of America traditionally draw people from all over the world. Places like New York and California. . . obviously.

    Also, Florida is cool place to see. Chicago? Houston? Phoenix? Vegas? Boston? NYC? LA? Atlanta? Seattle? I mean any of those cities are pretty much magnets for people looking for opportunity. Washington, DC too....Philly even?? it's just so big and vast and different everywhere u go, theres really no going wrong.

    I'd avoid places in the deep south likr Mississippi and Alabama... Also large portions of the mid-west are kind of bland and not really worth a see.

    Avoid places like Detroit, Buffalo, Ohio, etc.... you'd be bored.


    omg! that is such a cute post!!


    lol, thx icon_cool.gif
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    Mar 28, 2013 11:15 PM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidCute post?icon_confused.gif


    yes, it was cute that u put forth the effort to seriously and accurately expel upon the US in the way that u did. I liked ur little diddy about thinking its the best country in the world. I think that too, despite its endless flaws.
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    Mar 28, 2013 11:17 PM GMT
    it's so cool to be living in America.

    Any pop culture flick from the 80s that touches upon valley girl culture in California is really how it is all over the place icon_smile.gif)))
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    Mar 29, 2013 4:41 AM GMT
    I'd skip USA all together and go to Canada or Australia. In terms of economy, both are better than the States. And if you want a place where people are treated more respectfully and have equal rights, then definitely Canada.
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    Mar 29, 2013 4:50 AM GMT
    You're in fashion. NYC would be my suggestion.

    Better would be Paris, Milan, London, or Amsterdam.
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    Mar 29, 2013 1:03 PM GMT
    Thanks guys for this insight and comprehensive info....I feel already welcome to America, are all Americans this nice or what?icon_biggrin.gif

    I Have been reading lots of Time out books on major cities and I think ild like to try LA over NYC, I still have a long time before I move so I can make proper planning but of cos I'm expecting the best but also preparing myself for the worst -that's life.

    I work in fashion as an Menswear Buyer for a major retailer, I know NYC is the fashion capital but the market is saturated and competition is fierce and I believe LA is just as good if I'm right.
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    Mar 29, 2013 1:05 PM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidThe great thing about America is that it is so large and diverse no two regions will give you the same experience. Living in NYC will be a totally different experience than LA or Miami. Some cities, like Detroit or Buffalo, although in America, are almost 3rd world like. They offer very little redeeming qualities and are failed states.

    Just don't set your hopes too high. People come to America expecting the streets to be paved with gold and movie stars in every corner but that it is not the case. Some parts of America will seem like you saw on TV, but by and large most of us live "normal" lives. Unlike South Africa, the privileged here are generally allowed to live without fear.

    I will say that I value my American citizenship and will not give it up for anything in the world. For all it's fault, I still believe the US is the best country in the world and I couldn't imagine leaving here for good, though I certainly wouldn't mind living somewhere else for awhile.


    Where do you think you would want to live?

    I suspect Los Angeles would be a good choice for you. It's fashion scene is large and the some areas can still be affordable. NYC will cost you and arm and leg to live, though it is the fashion capital of the US.


    You are such a star.....I found this reply so helpful!! Thank u!! icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 29, 2013 1:09 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidYou're in fashion. NYC would be my suggestion.

    Better would be Paris, Milan, London, or Amsterdam.


    I'm really not sure how ild cope with Europe, I just have a feeling ild fit into the American environment more, Europe is always a good source of inspiration so I won't reject the idea of frequent traveling to Paris,Milan or London, but economically these countries aren't doing too well.
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    Mar 29, 2013 1:10 PM GMT
    wonofakind saidI'd skip USA all together and go to Canada or Australia. In terms of economy, both are better than the States. And if you want a place where people are treated more respectfully and have equal rights, then definitely Canada.


    Hmmmm tut tut.....maybe this is something to think about??
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    Mar 29, 2013 1:23 PM GMT
    Don't you worry. The USA is the greatest place on earth. You'll be just fine, wherever you go. Don't listen to all them Canadians, they are going to hate regardless. They need to jump off their gravy train with biscuit wheels. icon_evil.gif
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    Mar 29, 2013 1:32 PM GMT
    New York and California, are states by the way. It's not easy to get a Vista and just "think" to come to the USA. If I was you? I would take advantage of this. There's a whole lot of ppl out there, who could use that instead of you. Just saying.
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    Mar 29, 2013 3:51 PM GMT
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    wonofakind saidI'd skip USA all together and go to Canada or Australia. In terms of economy, both are better than the States. And if you want a place where people are treated more respectfully and have equal rights, then definitely Canada.


    Hmmmm tut tut.....maybe this is something to think about??


    I'm not "hating" on Americans. These are just facts. In terms of economy and human rights issues...the States doesn't even compare to Canada. Not to mention, being from diverse backgrounds and religions is much more accepted. I have many South African friends who moved to Canada. They prefer it.
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    Mar 29, 2013 4:28 PM GMT
    Yeah, how about Toronto or Montreal? They'd be great choices.And U.S. is close by if you want to visit.
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    Mar 29, 2013 4:35 PM GMT
    My two cents; most of my fellow Americans are assholes. Especially when you are traveling through rural America. Reason because they have a very centrist mentality. Pop there bubble, planet does not spin around the USA.

    I guess this make me a dick as well for pointing out this fact.
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    Mar 29, 2013 4:48 PM GMT
    I have been sharing my life between the U.S and Australia since the 1990's .
    First you really to get serious about coming here legally , it is not easy to get a green card ( you have to find an employer to sponsor you ) . Marriage isn't a valid suggestion for you as you are gay , and even if you gay marriages are now accepted in some states , he won't give you the same advantages when it comes to immigration ...
    Now said , it is worth the fair bit of aggravation you will encounter before you can finally move in , it is a wonderful country to live in , 95 % of his inhabitants are great blokes , and you will find beautiful vistas and landscape diversity with each state you will visit . If you are smart , dedicated and loyal to your employer , you will be accordingly respected .
    Canada is also a great choice ( healthcare system ) , and Canadians are without any doubt great !
    I am not talking about Australia , because it is my home country and I might be impartial about it ...Hahaha

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    Mar 29, 2013 4:50 PM GMT
    While I'm sure Canada is a fine country and all, it lacks the diversity and vibrancy that America has.

    Outside the major cities of Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver, you will find much of the rest of the country like rural America. Plus for fashion, you can't get any bigger in the Western Hemisphere than LA or NYC. Who wants to go to Toronto fashion week?
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    Mar 29, 2013 5:03 PM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidWhile I'm sure Canada is a fine country and all, it lacks the diversity and vibrancy that America has.

    Outside the major cities of Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver, you will find much of the rest of the country like rural America. Plus for fashion, you can't get any bigger in the Western Hemisphere than LA or NYC. Who wants to go to Toronto fashion week?


    I'm so glad someone pointed this out! The OP is interested primarily in getting work experience and using it to his advantage when he returns to his home country and in the meantime, he is wanting to know what American culture is like.

    OP - you're not going to truly know what it's like to live in America until you come here. If moving to Canada is going to take your work experience to a new level, then go for it! But it sounds like several posts are derailing you from your career goals.....unless you're also interested in changing social and political agendas when you return to your country.