RJ is Dying

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    Mar 29, 2013 6:30 AM GMT
    Wow. I'm not the only one to have noticed this, as some people have made posts elsewhere. But forum posts are WAY down, and the threads that are active seem more than a little "flat".

    Anyone have any theories?

    Some people have suggested that:
    - those in college are just at that particular point in the academic cycle where they don't have time for RJ.
    - the nicer weather/change of season is keeping people away.
    - the use of Google Hangouts by some prolific posters on RJ is depressing many threads
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    Mar 29, 2013 6:52 AM GMT
    I've noticed a lull in other places too. I think it's the weather. Being between winter and spring.
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    Mar 29, 2013 7:41 AM GMT
    We don't have any good trolls starting idiotic scandalous threads anymore, that's why.
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    Mar 29, 2013 8:29 AM GMT
    I think people are just burned out on all social media at the moment. I see things slowing down on other sites too.

    Also, this site in general has been decreasing in activity due to repetitive content and constant trolling. If the forums had mods from the beginning, I'm sure more guys would have hung around.

    In another year or so, the forums will be full of spammers talking to each other in fake conversations. icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 29, 2013 8:42 AM GMT
    Awww but I just started learning how to be gay... y'all can't leave me hanging like a lone nut. icon_sad.gif
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    Mar 29, 2013 10:09 AM GMT
    who cares.

    there is more interesting shit elsewhere.
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    Mar 29, 2013 11:11 AM GMT
    It has dropped off, I think the weather up in your part of the world may have something to do with it, however i think there was also a large number of "un-jock" types that came here and annoyed a large number of the jocks with their constant belittling them,. maybe?

    I've also noticed a lower number of people on other sites, maybe the Interwebs are dying? And people are doing stuff IRL

    On a possible side note did anyone else get large numbers of emails looking for cash? From young guys in Africa and Romania? That could have put a lot of people off
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    Mar 29, 2013 11:12 AM GMT
    lilTanker saidwho cares.

    there is more interesting shit elsewhere.


    Like ,y delayed yet still upcoming trip to Brisvegas ?? ;)
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    Mar 29, 2013 11:25 AM GMT
    As someone has already said, it's the same topics over and over again. After a while, it gets old.....fast! Also, it seems so many guys are posting to one thread....what's on your mind
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    Mar 29, 2013 11:35 AM GMT
    Not enough exaggeratedly dramatic thread subject titles like this one's?
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    Mar 29, 2013 12:06 PM GMT
    yiboz said
    lilTanker saidwho cares.

    there is more interesting shit elsewhere.


    Like ,y delayed yet still upcoming trip to Brisvegas ?? ;)

    You'd better do it soon man... theres a good possibility I wont be here come some inevitable point where a decision is made to do what I'm thinking of.
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    Mar 29, 2013 12:19 PM GMT
    lilTanker said
    yiboz said
    lilTanker saidwho cares.

    there is more interesting shit elsewhere.


    Like ,y delayed yet still upcoming trip to Brisvegas ?? ;)

    You'd better do it soon man... theres a good possibility I wont be here come some inevitable point where a decision is made to do what I'm thinking of.


    I'll call you over the weekend
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    Mar 29, 2013 12:30 PM GMT
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    GigoloAssassin saidWe don't have any good trolls starting idiotic scandalous threads anymore, that's why.

    I can't do everything. icon_lol.gif

    LOL!
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    Mar 29, 2013 12:33 PM GMT
    yiboz said
    On a possible side note did anyone else get large numbers of emails looking for cash? From young guys in Africa and Romania? That could have put a lot of people off

    I've been getting unsolicited RJ email from Africa and Eastern Europe for years. And from guys who just joined that same day, or very recently. I never reply and usually block them, so it doesn't advance to the point of them asking me for anything.
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    Mar 29, 2013 12:35 PM GMT
    Okay then

    I guess I will have to revive them.
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    Mar 29, 2013 12:38 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    yiboz said
    On a possible side note did anyone else get large numbers of emails looking for cash? From young guys in Africa and Romania? That could have put a lot of people off

    I've been getting unsolicited RJ email from Africa and Eastern Europe for years. And from guys who just joined that same day, or very recently. I never reply and usually block them, so it doesn't advance to the point of them asking me for anything.


    I've been getting the same for the last six months or so. I don't bother blocking, but I'm not seeing tham back with more emails.
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    Mar 29, 2013 12:40 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    yiboz said
    On a possible side note did anyone else get large numbers of emails looking for cash? From young guys in Africa and Romania? That could have put a lot of people off

    I've been getting unsolicited RJ email from Africa and Eastern Europe for years. And from guys who just joined that same day, or very recently. I never reply and usually block them, so it doesn't advance to the point of them asking me for anything.
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    Same. I curse and then block them
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    Mar 29, 2013 12:41 PM GMT
    yourname2000 saidYeah, I've definitely noticed it in the forums....there seems to be a lot fewer posts and new threads. [url]I don't recall it being this quiet at the same time last year, so it seems more than cyclical to me.
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    Has another similar service opened up? I've been joking that the google chat has been syphoning off some of the traffic, but it's more than that. I was surprised how sedate the conversations were over this week's SCOTUS procedures, for example.

    I blame Clay. Since he started going all "vacationy" and not posting, quite a few people seem to have dropped off, lol.


    Last year was an election year so there was far more to fight and fuss about. True though, I've also noticed a big drop-off in activity. Maybe we're just all collectively burned out on the format and going back to meet and great in RL.
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    Mar 29, 2013 12:54 PM GMT
    xrichx saidI think people are just burned out on all social media at the moment. I see things slowing down on other sites too.

    Also, this site in general has been decreasing in activity due to repetitive content and constant trolling. If the forums had mods from the beginning, I'm sure more guys would have hung around.

    In another year or so, the forums will be full of spammers talking to each other in fake conversations. icon_lol.gif


    I think this is more of it. Thanks to the constant scammers, spammers, trolls, name calling and vitriol (not talking about just here) that folks are just bored with it and have moved back to the old way ... RL and face to face. Not necessarily such a bad thing.

    I've also seen the same thing with my commercial real estate blog where it's non-stop spam attacks by content spammers. I've lost much of my enthusiasm to write new content for the blog.

    I'm on a bunch of old car related forums that are still real active because many of these old geezers are relatively new computer users plus we're always embarking on new projects where we need some help from our fellow brand (in my case Pontiac) buddies. We have annual major meets and show where we meet up from all across the country so the internet forums are the way we stay in contact throughout the rest of the year.
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    Mar 29, 2013 1:03 PM GMT
    intensity69 said
    Anyone have any theories?

    Only Admin knows the actual traffic count here. What we're perceiving may be short-term subjective. Sorta like when a place in the US gets a big snowstorm, and people say "See, there's no global warming." But they ignore the global temperature averages & trends, and the hotter summers, and climate changes they don't personally experience in their little corner of the Earth.

    We just finished a US Presidential election, which generates peak RJ forum traffic for about 6 months. After that deluge anything seems relatively quiet in comparison.

    Plus the Conservaposse ran for cover after they got their tails burned in November. Their controversial posts tend to generate a lot of traffic. Only now are they finally starting to reemerge from hiding. But if you subtract their politically and socially conservative posts (anti-liberal and gay hostile), the traffic on other topics here is about the same.

    I know, I'll get dinged for making this "political", but politics forms a significant part of our online traffic. If you wanna analyze our usage patterns you cannot omit politics.

    I remember shortly after I joined RJ that a chronic troublemaker & provocateur, who's still here, boasted to me that he'll never get booted from this site. He told me no matter what he posts, because he generates so much traffic, which ultimately equals revenue, that the owners can't afford to yank him.

    I don't know if that's true or not, but I note that he's still here, despite having violated almost every TOU/TOS rule in the RJ book. A member even told him he thinks he may be an RJ owner/investor, making him immune from permanent removal, his past brief bans being for show.

    I dunno, that's rumor & speculation. But I do know any online site brings in more money from advertisers when the traffic is higher. Therefore a little controversy can be good for business, provided it doesn't drive subscribers away.
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    Mar 29, 2013 1:32 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    intensity69 said
    Anyone have any theories?

    Only Admin knows the actual traffic count here. What we're perceiving may be short-term subjective. Sorta like when a place in the US gets a big snowstorm, and people say "See, there's no global warming." But they ignore the global temperature averages & trends, and the hotter summers, and climate changes they don't personally experience in their little corner of the Earth.

    We just finished a US Presidential election, which generates peak RJ forum traffic for about 6 months. After that deluge anything seems relatively quiet in comparison.

    Plus the Conservaposse ran for cover after they got their tails burned in November. Their controversial posts tend to generate a lot of traffic. Only now are they finally started to reemerge from hiding. But if you subtract their politically and socially conservative posts (anti-liberal and gay hostile), the traffic on other topics here is about the same.

    I know, I'll get dinged for making this "political", but politics forms a significant part of our online traffic. If you wanna analyze our usage patterns you cannot omit politics.

    I remember shortly after I joined RJ that a chronic troublemaker & provocateur, who's still here, boasted to me that he'll never get booted from this site. He told me no matter what he posts, because he generates so much traffic, which ultimately equals revenue, that the owners can't afford to yank him.

    I don't know if that's true or not, but I note that he's still here, despite having violated almost every TOU/TOS rule in the RJ book. A member even told him he thinks he may be an RJ owner/investor, making him immune from permanent removal, his past brief bans being for show.

    I dunno, that's rumor & speculation. But I do know any online site brings in more money from advertisers when the traffic is higher. Therefore a little controversy can be good for business, provided it doesn't drive subscribers away.


    "Plus the Conservaposse ran for cover after they got their tails burned in November."

    Can't speak for the others, but I never left.

    "because he generates so much traffic, which ultimately equals revenue"

    Lot of truth to this. If you don't have some level of disagreement then there quickly becomes little to talk about, at least in the political forum.

    Total user count is still around 330,000 so that seems to be about the same as it had been for the last year.
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    Mar 29, 2013 2:05 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    "Plus the Conservaposse ran for cover after they got their tails burned in November."

    Can't speak for the others, but I never left.

    "because he generates so much traffic, which ultimately equals revenue"

    Lot of truth to this. If you don't have some level of disagreement then there quickly becomes little to talk about, at least in the political forum.

    Total user count is still around 330,000 so that seems to be about the same as it had been for the last year.

    I agree, your forum activity level has remained consistent, to my observation. You did not make yourself scarce following the US November election. Not that I track these things on a chart or something, but that's my impression.

    User/member count is one thing. Online activity is another. I'm quite sure it declined after the US election. Perhaps that's what some guys here are seeing.

    But the lead-in to the US election caused an activity peak. Now we are post-election, and should expect a decline. There's insufficient evidence to claim that "RJ is Dying" per the OP's thread.
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    Mar 29, 2013 2:30 PM GMT
    topathlete saidMany of the threads are totally banal and I think people have become tired of them.

    The political threads have become largely a waste of time. The few posters on both sides who try logical discussions are drowned out by those who spew BS and create empty posts, sometimes only with emoticons.

    Fitness/health/nutrition areas are ok, but there is generally better discussion on sites dedicated to those areas.

    I get the sense that people use RJ more to stay in touch with friends and have less involvement with those they don't know. Given that, there are other ways to stay in touch.


    And this is exactly why I recommended some time ago that Chris come up with geographic based forums. Makes it easier I think to put together meet and greets, hence reasons to stay in touch, both in RL and RJ.
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    Mar 29, 2013 2:40 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    "Plus the Conservaposse ran for cover after they got their tails burned in November."

    Can't speak for the others, but I never left.

    "because he generates so much traffic, which ultimately equals revenue"

    Lot of truth to this. If you don't have some level of disagreement then there quickly becomes little to talk about, at least in the political forum.

    Total user count is still around 330,000 so that seems to be about the same as it had been for the last year.

    I agree, your forum activity level has remained consistent, to my observation. You did not make yourself scarce following the US November election. Not that I track these things on a chart or something, but that's my impression.

    User/member count is one thing. Online activity is another. I'm quite sure it declined after the US election. Perhaps that's what some guys here are seeing.

    But the lead-in to the US election caused an activity peak. Now we are post-election, and should expect a decline. There's insufficient evidence to claim that "RJ is Dying" per the OP's thread.


    The internet has become so full of bullshit. spammers and scammers that many of us are losing interest ... period and going back to the old way .... face to face.

    Another thing is that, at least in North America, winter is over and we're getting outside a bit so spending less time in front of the puter. I have a to-do list of things to do on the old Pontiac to get it ready for racing season and of course car shows and hangouts coming up. Many other have gardens to plant, lawns to fertilize, house to paint, bikes to ride, etc. Plus, I have to work harder because when the weather breaks, I really really really want one of these

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