moving to San Diego next year / questions

  • GraffitiMySou...

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    Mar 30, 2013 4:24 PM GMT
    Hello,

    I'm still doing my research, hence the topic and my questions that I don't think have been answered yet. What's more, I'm in a different situation since I'm not from the US.

    The thing is, I feel like I need to make a big change in my life and have one year to do whatever it takes to reach some of my goals. I've been thinking about a lot of places in the US, but wherever I go online, people seem to be praising San Diego constantly, calling it the best place to live in the US. Below are my questions. I'd really appreciate if I got some answers from people who live/used to live there.

    1. The cost of living.

    I know I have to have some money saved up to start a life in SD and hopefully have a job lined up before I move, but I get a bit discouraged by people saying it's not a good idea and I should probably think of another destination. Being a senior corporate travel counselor (I'm currently working in an American company that has its offices here in Poland) I think I should be making approximately around 35-45k annually (and that's hopefully only in the first year). I've been told it's not enough. I know for a fact I will have to have roommates, which I don't mind so paying up to 800$ per month for a room shouldn't be that hard, right? Another thing is that I almost never eat out. I make my own meals and I believe that'll make a difference as well. I also hardly ever drink alcohol and I'm not into the gay scene/ifestyle (whatever it may mean).
    As for the job itself, I plan to find a place to live somewhere close so that I don't have to spend too much money on gas or maybe even use public transport.
    With all that said, I'm still not sure whether I'll be able to make it. That's where I need your help and some advice.

    2. The weather.

    Not gonna lie - the weather is one of the things that attracts me the most as far as SD is concerned. I'm a bit tired of the four seasons especially now that for the past 3-5years the weather has been constantly changing and we have very bad winters. There are weeks when it's -30F outside and believe me, as much as you can get used to it, it's a huge pain in the ass. The entire winter seems to last from early November (even if it's technically fall) up to late March. I'm over it. The summer on the other hand can be extremely volatile with thunderstorms, floods and bouts of unbearable heat (100-105F).
    However, I've come across people's comments that the weather in San Diego is quite boring actually. It hardly ever rains, no snow (that's not a problem for me AT ALL) and the city itself looks kind of dry and brown as in no green leaves, grass etc. Is that true?
    And what about the rain? Is it really that rare? Are there any storms at all?

    3. The people

    Everybody seems to agree that San Diegans are very open-minded, friendly and laid back. What do you mean by the laid back part? I find it hard to believe it's all about not giving a damn about everything and wearing broad shorts and flip-flops all the time.

    What do you guys think about it all? Should I bother?
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    Mar 31, 2013 3:52 AM GMT
    Hey, there! European by birth, San Diegan by choice.

    1. Cost of living. The only thing really expensive in California is housing. The price of $800 you mention for a room is about right, so I assume you did your research. The big problem is going to be the job, unless you company can transfer you to the States. Even if it is willing to do it, it may take quite a while to get a visa. And you definitely should not think about coming without a valid visa, or overstaying a short-term tourist visa.

    2.The weather. It's the main reason most of us are here. It's not as uniform as they told you: the winter is stormy, with about one storm every other week. The storms, though, are just rain, and between storms you can still go to the beach - even in January. At the same time, while the area surrounding San Diego is a virtual desert (except January to April), the city itself is green, with lush parks, palms swaying everywhere, and carefully tended lawns. A considerable portion of the Colorado River flows through our taps...

    3. The people. San Diego is a place full of transient people: tourists, military, colleges. It leaves its mark on the area, especially in the gay world. Amazing place to have sex, not so good if you want more than just sex. "Laid back" is in comparison with other major cities in America, where things are incredibly hectic. Everything is calmer in San Diego, mostly because our definition of excitement involves sitting on a surfboard and not in a car.

    If you can manage the visa situation, San Diego is the place to be. I've lived in America for 15 years, have traveled far and wide, and San Diego was always the place where I wanted to end up. That, or Hawaii.
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    Mar 31, 2013 10:15 AM GMT
    themachine saidHey, there! European by birth, San Diegan by choice.

    1. Cost of living. The only thing really expensive in California is housing. The price of $800 you mention for a room is about right, so I assume you did your research. The big problem is going to be the job, unless you company can transfer you to the States. Even if it is willing to do it, it may take quite a while to get a visa. And you definitely should not think about coming without a valid visa, or overstaying a short-term tourist visa.

    2.The weather. It's the main reason most of us are here. It's not as uniform as they told you: the winter is stormy, with about one storm every other week. The storms, though, are just rain, and between storms you can still go to the beach - even in January. At the same time, while the area surrounding San Diego is a virtual desert (except January to April), the city itself is green, with lush parks, palms swaying everywhere, and carefully tended lawns. A considerable portion of the Colorado River flows through our taps...

    3. The people. San Diego is a place full of transient people: tourists, military, colleges. It leaves its mark on the area, especially in the gay world. Amazing place to have sex, not so good if you want more than just sex. "Laid back" is in comparison with other major cities in America, where things are incredibly hectic. Everything is calmer in San Diego, mostly because our definition of excitement involves sitting on a surfboard and not in a car.

    If you can manage the visa situation, San Diego is the place to be. I've lived in America for 15 years, have traveled far and wide, and San Diego was always the place where I wanted to end up. That, or Hawaii.



    ^^^^^^ this
  • Beastmode

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    Mar 31, 2013 11:21 AM GMT
    I visited the States for the first time ever last month and first stop was San Diego. It was sensational. I can imagine living there. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 02, 2013 1:19 AM GMT
    themachine saidHey, there! European by birth, San Diegan by choice.

    1. Cost of living. The only thing really expensive in California is housing. The price of $800 you mention for a room is about right, so I assume you did your research. The big problem is going to be the job, unless you company can transfer you to the States. Even if it is willing to do it, it may take quite a while to get a visa. And you definitely should not think about coming without a valid visa, or overstaying a short-term tourist visa.

    2.The weather. It's the main reason most of us are here. It's not as uniform as they told you: the winter is stormy, with about one storm every other week. The storms, though, are just rain, and between storms you can still go to the beach - even in January. At the same time, while the area surrounding San Diego is a virtual desert (except January to April), the city itself is green, with lush parks, palms swaying everywhere, and carefully tended lawns. A considerable portion of the Colorado River flows through our taps...

    3. The people. San Diego is a place full of transient people: tourists, military, colleges. It leaves its mark on the area, especially in the gay world. Amazing place to have sex, not so good if you want more than just sex. "Laid back" is in comparison with other major cities in America, where things are incredibly hectic. Everything is calmer in San Diego, mostly because our definition of excitement involves sitting on a surfboard and not in a car.

    If you can manage the visa situation, San Diego is the place to be. I've lived in America for 15 years, have traveled far and wide, and San Diego was always the place where I wanted to end up. That, or Hawaii.



    Yeah, this kinda sums it all up.....except the "wanting more" part. I agree this is a great place for sex, but there are quite a lot of guys who are looking for more. I have a lot of friends in, or looking for, real relationships. I guess you just have to put that desire out there, if that's what you want. Others who are looking for the same will respond.

    Also, San Diego is a very competitive labor market. Unless your company will transfer you here (and that's not easy if someone here could already do the job), it's unlikely you'll be able to get anyone to look at you until you are physically here. The local talent pool is just too large for companies to bother with relocation candidates, unless you're applying for Director level or above.
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    Apr 02, 2013 3:58 AM GMT
    Blacks Beach is the only reason I would live there....
    HA!

    I do like the surf, sand, sex...icon_redface.gif
  • GraffitiMySou...

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    Apr 02, 2013 11:07 PM GMT
    Thanks a lot for all the replies so far. I appreciate it icon_smile.gif

    The reason I picked San Diego is that it seemed to be the best choice when I compared it with Los Angeles and San Francisco. It's still expensive, but not as much as the other two. Besides, I read some comments of people saying SD was more slow-paced and that made me want to move there even more. I'm not a party animal so I don't really care about clubs, bars etc.

    Now, the work/visa situation. If I manage to get a transfer, I will get a visa, that's for sure. I do realize it won't be easy so if that doesn't work out (I'll know 100% by the end of this year), I'll go to the UK for a year, save up some money, try to get a green card and if I do then eventually, move to San Diego. It means I'll have to look for a job when I'm already there and as far as I know, it's not an easy thing to do. I've read a lot about the job market in SD and pretty much everyone says it's really bad. Then again, I'd rather be there, work as a hotel reservations agent and struggle to survive than having a good job and resenting every second of my life. Money is important, but it's not a priority.

    Still, people think I'm crazy. Some say I'm too old to make that kind of change, some say I'll regret it, some say I should be more realistic and choose a different city in the US, not as expensive as SD. I know that I'll be up for a tough start, but is it really impossible? I don't count on earning 60k at the beginning. I'm not delusional. If the transfer thing doesn't work out I'll probably start at 30k which I realize is really bad, but you have to start somewhere, right? Or maybe I am crazy... I don't know, help me out here guys.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 06, 2013 4:52 PM GMT
    You are very fortunate to be moving to San Diego, one of the most beautiful cities in the US. I that I could move to San Diego because this northern cold weather can get old after awhile along with New York's corrupt, do nothing politicians.