28,000 rivers wiped off the map of China

  • metta

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    Apr 01, 2013 3:26 PM GMT
    28,000 rivers wiped off the map of China

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/rivers-wiped-off-the-map-of-china/story-e6frg6so-1226609139591
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    Apr 01, 2013 3:35 PM GMT
    Yeah, I don't care. These ruthless idiots are doing everything they can to be the number one country in the world without thinking it through. So in a few years they will have all the money and make all the products and every country will owe them every dollar, but their land and rivers will be useless and their cancer rate will be sky high and no one will give a damn.
    That said, their control of the evil General Tso must continue.
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    Apr 03, 2013 11:37 AM GMT
    And when your idea of 'innovation' is to shamelessly rip off and reverse engineer the West's products and ideas (often poorly), you're always going to be one step behind the West.
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    Apr 03, 2013 12:24 PM GMT
    I've been to China & I noticed many people often talk about money(not always, but frequent enough for a foreigner to notice as a strange behavior).
    Everyone wants to be rich, their desire to be rich is very high compared to my country.

    28,000 rivers is a lot!...
    Imagine about other nations including developed nations...
    How much did the humans have destroyed their natural wealth for the sake of artificial wealth.

    The wealth is under our feet and all around us, but very few notices it.
    when one can discover and differentiate the the true treasure from artificial treasure...they always choose the true one.

    It reminds me of a quote said by Gandhi.
    “Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed”

    I wish a day should come where every corner of the world is restored to its original beauty...
    We humans proved that we have capacity to destroy, now is the time to prove that we also have the capacity to restore what destroyed.
  • conservativej...

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    Apr 03, 2013 12:44 PM GMT
    Then too, there are typos in the article......I hope. Read this line:

    "Only 22,909 rivers covering an area of 100sq km were located by surveyors."

    100 square kilometers is a damn small area. The average American county or parish is larger. Were the surveyors drinking something? Lol
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    Apr 03, 2013 12:49 PM GMT
    It's only a matter of time before someone from China posts a thread titled "why do rivers no like Asians?" icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 03, 2013 1:06 PM GMT
    conservativejock said
    "Only 22,909 rivers covering an area of 100sq km were located by surveyors."

    100 square kilometers is a damn small area. The average American county or parish is larger. Were the surveyors drinking something? Lol


    No, 100sq km is the area in length and breadth of whole river bed of all 22,909 rivers combined..
    It's not surveyed in 100sq km.
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    Apr 03, 2013 1:07 PM GMT
    smartmoney saidYeah, I don't care. These ruthless idiots are doing everything they can to be the number one country in the world without thinking it through. So in a few years they will have all the money and make all the products and every country will owe them every dollar, but their land and rivers will be useless and their cancer rate will be sky high and no one will give a damn.
    That said, their control of the evil General Tso must continue.


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    Apr 03, 2013 2:00 PM GMT
    smartmoney saidYeah, I don't care. These ruthless idiots are doing everything they can to be the number one country in the world without thinking it through. So in a few years they will have all the money and make all the products and every country will owe them every dollar, but their land and rivers will be useless and their cancer rate will be sky high and no one will give a damn.
    That said, their control of the evil General Tso must continue.


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    Apr 03, 2013 2:47 PM GMT
    When I read things like this it amazes me that libertarians and tea partiers view environmental regulation as a form of tyranny. I view these regulations as enforcers of liberty -- the freedom to breath clean air, drink potable water, and enjoy the natural world.
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    Apr 03, 2013 3:10 PM GMT
    Nivek saidWhen I read things like this it amazes me that libertarians and tea partiers view environmental regulation as a form of tyranny. I view these regulations as enforcers of liberty -- the freedom to breath clean air, drink potable water, and enjoy the natural world.

    What Teabagger loonies fail to recognize is that natural resources on public land belong to the people, not corporations. That clean water & air is my right, and that corporations can't poison me in order to make a profit.

    The Teabagger economic model is classic Fascism, an unholy alliance between State and business that excludes the workers and ordinary citizens. Although they accuse everyone else of being Fascists, and socialists, and communists, and every incompatible nasty term in the book, without the slightest clue what any of those word really mean, except that they sound bad.
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    Apr 03, 2013 3:36 PM GMT
    Holy... interesting article.... BUT China is a hundred years behind.... we've already done it here. The Russians even drained the Ural Sea. Just wait till they realize they can do fracking, destabilizing the bedrock and poisoning the groundwaters..... or building nuclear power plants on the Mississippi fault line. We may be trying to get a handle on things here.... but really we aren't much better.
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    Apr 03, 2013 3:49 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Nivek saidWhen I read things like this it amazes me that libertarians and tea partiers view environmental regulation as a form of tyranny. I view these regulations as enforcers of liberty -- the freedom to breath clean air, drink potable water, and enjoy the natural world.


    Excessive regulation. It's a key point and one that I hope you can appreciate., unlike Mr. Deco's delusional, hateful and intolerant mind which has no capacity whatsoever to make that distinction.


    And yet you seem to have no problems whatsoever with the GOP's excessive moral regulation of your and everyone else's personal life. icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 03, 2013 3:59 PM GMT
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    southbeach1500 said
    Nivek saidWhen I read things like this it amazes me that libertarians and tea partiers view environmental regulation as a form of tyranny. I view these regulations as enforcers of liberty -- the freedom to breath clean air, drink potable water, and enjoy the natural world.


    Excessive regulation. It's a key point and one that I hope you can appreciate., unlike Mr. Deco's delusional, hateful and intolerant mind which has no capacity whatsoever to make that distinction.

    And yet you seem to have no problems whatsoever with the GOP's excessive moral regulation of your and everyone else's personal life. icon_lol.gif

    Disregard him. He has this obsessive hatred of me, and so nothing he says has any value or credibility. Like the political tactics of Teabaggers and other fanatics, he throws wild & unsubstantiated libels against me, hoping something will stick.

    His lies have been discredited here so many times it's almost an honor to be attacked by him. I rather wear it as a badge of honor these days. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 03, 2013 4:00 PM GMT
    MMMMmmmm the American way. Guys ten years ago there was under 20 cars per thousand people in China... now there's many times that. At the same time there was 760 cars per thousand people in the USA. China is going from a bicycle economy to an American economy at a rabid rate. We take this stuff for granted because it was gradual. They are getting everything thrown at them. Don't you wish we had of stayed with the bicycle....aaahhhhh

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    Apr 03, 2013 4:05 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Nivek saidWhen I read things like this it amazes me that libertarians and tea partiers view environmental regulation as a form of tyranny. I view these regulations as enforcers of liberty -- the freedom to breath clean air, drink potable water, and enjoy the natural world.


    Excessive regulation. It's a key point and one that I hope you can appreciate., unlike Mr. Deco's delusional, hateful and intolerant mind which has no capacity whatsoever to make that distinction.


    "Excessive regulation" is something everyone is against, right? It's also something defined conveniently by pollution dumpers as anything that impedes their dumping.

    However, environmental disasters aren't usually caused by lax regulation but corrupt enforcement of even the most basic and obvious standards.
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    Apr 03, 2013 6:11 PM GMT
    Harry7785 said
    conservativejock said
    "Only 22,909 rivers covering an area of 100sq km were located by surveyors."

    100 square kilometers is a damn small area. The average American county or parish is larger. Were the surveyors drinking something? Lol


    No, 100sq km is the area in length and breadth of whole river bed of all 22,909 rivers combined..
    It's not surveyed in 100sq km.


    You are right. It is the previous surface area. So what what the total drainage area of the combined systems would be? Interesting.
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    Apr 03, 2013 6:27 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    blazerblue said... environmental disasters aren't usually caused by lax regulation but corrupt enforcement of even the most basic and obvious standards.


    Correct. See Obama administration re: the BP oil spill in the Gulf.


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    Apr 03, 2013 6:56 PM GMT
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    smartmoney saidYeah, I don't care. These ruthless idiots are doing everything they can to be the number one country in the world without thinking it through. So in a few years they will have all the money and make all the products and every country will owe them every dollar, but their land and rivers will be useless and their cancer rate will be sky high and no one will give a damn.
    That said, their control of the evil General Tso must continue.


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    Apr 03, 2013 8:17 PM GMT
    robbee333 saidMMMMmmmm the American way. Guys ten years ago there was under 20 cars per thousand people in China... now there's many times that. At the same time there was 760 cars per thousand people in the USA. China is going from a bicycle economy to an American economy at a rabid rate. We take this stuff for granted because it was gradual. They are getting everything thrown at them. Don't you wish we had of stayed with the bicycle....aaahhhhh



    um...did stay with the bicycle actually. would like to see more trains though.
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    Apr 03, 2013 8:35 PM GMT
    I don't think any of us have a right to mock the Chinese. North America & Europe share the same heritage where nature has been paved over in favor of development. Many New England cities have entire rivers that were diverted or buried underground like the Hog river here in Hartford.

    Before:
    hog_river_1900.jpg

    After:
    700_1574.jpg
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    Apr 03, 2013 8:41 PM GMT
    How about this idea that almost every nation in the world has overthrown their tyrannical leaders at one point or another.If a billon people can't do it that is pretty pathetic.Ryan icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 04, 2013 12:21 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    blazerblue said... environmental disasters aren't usually caused by lax regulation but corrupt enforcement of even the most basic and obvious standards.


    Correct. See Obama administration re: the BP oil spill in the Gulf.


    Would you like to offer a reference to support your assertion?

    You may well be correct but without any references, your credibility could be questioned. Nothing personal but this is the Internetz where some few have been known to obfuscate out their asses rather than doing the harder work of justifying their arguments.

    Innuendo is easy.
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    Apr 04, 2013 12:55 AM GMT
    Well, the Chinese (and Indians, and citizens of other emerging nations) are hellbent on repeating every mistake that Americans ever made. Pretty much every river in the West has been dammed.

    Unfortunately, it's not easy to say "Yeah, I know we did that, but it was wrong. You should do something else"
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    Apr 04, 2013 12:57 AM GMT
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