Republicans Go Silent After President Obama Gives Back 5% of His Salary

  • metta

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    Apr 04, 2013 12:16 AM GMT
    Republicans Go Silent After President Obama Gives Back 5% of His Salary

    http://www.politicususa.com/game-on-republicans-follow-president-obamas-lead-repaying-5-pay.html
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    Apr 04, 2013 12:47 AM GMT
    I say pay them more. Then they might not be so keen on being lobbied and go through those revolving doors to being lobbyists after they're out.icon_lol.gif

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2013/04/congressional_salaries_senators_representatives_and_their_staff_all_deserve.html
  • tazzari

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    Apr 04, 2013 1:42 AM GMT
    I'm sure it will be mere minutes until congress votes to reduce their salary in keeping with the sequester, and to show solidarity with all those who have lost jobs.

    Just the same way they'll renounce the socialized health care we all pay taxes to give them.
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    Apr 04, 2013 12:40 PM GMT
    topathlete saidBig F---en Deal - Let him start repaying the extra cost when he and Michelle take separate vacations at huge taxpayer expense.


    An expense that is built into their compensation package. The exact same one Bush received traveling to Crawford Ranch every weekend.
  • GQjock

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    Apr 04, 2013 1:44 PM GMT
    The republicans will NEVER EVER go along with this cut in pay not because it's the right thing to do or even if they want to do it

    but they won't because it will be following something that Obama did

    and THAT is the republican number one law ..... thou shalt not agree with ANYTHING that Obama says or does for what EVER reason

    ie: Chris Christie after Hurricane Sandy
    Charlie Christ's ouster from the party after his Obama hug

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    Apr 04, 2013 2:32 PM GMT
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2008/03/04/BL2008030401392.htmlMike Allen wrote in The Washington Post in August of 2001, as Bush's first long Crawford vacation wrapped up: "The length of the trip revived old questions about Bush's work ethic." Of course, no one knew at the time that Bush had, during the first week of that vacation, waved off the now-famous memo specifically for the president titled " Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US." According to author Ron Suskind, Bush heard his CIA briefer out -- then told him, "All right. You've covered your ass, now."

    The very next day, as Dana Milbank and Mike Allen wrote in The Post in April 2004, Bush ran into reporters while playing golf at a nearby country club and "seemed carefree as he spoke about the books he was reading, the work he was doing on his nearby ranch, his love of hot-weather jogging, his golf game and his 55th birthday."


    Obama's working vacations:

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/08/24/Obama-has-been-working-while-on-vacation/UPI-40261314241678/
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2012/12/25/obama-to-end-christmas-vacation-early-return-to-washington-wednesday/
    And you might not agree with this, but it was work, made necessary by the Senate.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/working-vacation-obama-makes-controversial-appointments-james-cole/story?id=12503156

    What were we talking about again? Oh, symbolic but real cuts to salaries made by the president on himself. Not vacations.
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    Apr 04, 2013 2:47 PM GMT
    topathlete said
    q1w2e3 saidWhat were we talking about again? Oh, symbolic but real cuts to salaries made by the president on himself. Not vacations.

    We are talking about how the president wants everyone to share the sacrifice while he and Michelle jet off separately at huge taxpayer expense. That is the image of today. While the far left will satisfy themselves carping about Bush, most people today will look at what is happening today.

    From a partisan source, but true:

    President Obama's budget is nearly two months overdue. Instead of fulfilling his presidential duties, he is campaigning in San Francisco and sipping cocktails with the liberal elite.

    Our nation is over $16.8 trillion in debt and our economy is stuck in neutral, yet President Obama chooses to spend his time raising money to get his fellow Democrats elected.

    A jaunt to California on Air Force One costs $180,000 per hour. Just last month, the Obama administration announced they were axing White House tours because of the sequester budget cuts. So there's no money for third graders to visit the people's house, but there's plenty of money for President Obama to fly to California for fundraisers?


    How much does a jaunt to Texas cost? How many fundraisers were made by Bush during his Presidency?
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    Apr 04, 2013 3:18 PM GMT
    Your newsmax source exaggerates, as usual. Yes, Obama has fundraised more than other presidents, but the increasing trend is clear, and it's not all of them COMBINED. It would be nice to have public funding for elections. But the sad state of politics is that money talks the loudest.

    obama-fundraising.jpg

    How much time is spent by members of Congress campaigning instead of legislating? What their travel budget like when campaigning? The House only worked 109 days in 2012.

    Again, let's talk salary reductions since that's the topic of this thread.
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    Apr 04, 2013 3:21 PM GMT
    GQjock saidThe republicans will NEVER EVER go along with this cut in pay not because it's the right thing to do or even if they want to do it

    but they won't because it will be following something that Obama did

    and THAT is the republican number one law ..... thou shalt not agree with ANYTHING that Obama says or does for what EVER reason

    ie: Chris Christie after Hurricane Sandy
    Charlie Christ's ouster from the party after his Obama hug

    The Republicans aren't known as the "Party of No" without good cause. They have proven they will resort to dragging the economy down in order to blame Democrats, cause voter discontent, and thereby return themselves to power. Compared to that, spreading the lie about Obama's vacations is minor.
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    Apr 04, 2013 3:27 PM GMT
    How can you talk salary and ignore all the other benefits?

    Presidential vacations come at a massive cost:
    http://news.yahoo.com/comparison-recent-presidential-vacation-time-160400657.html

    Meanwhile, in the midst of the sequestration, ironically orchestrated by Obama, where the Obama Administration has suggested would be devastating, he sends his daughters on vacation.... and attempts to scrub the news reporting:
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/29/news-reports-about-obama-girls-vacation-disappear-from-the-web-but-how-odd-is-it-really/

    This 5% cut would make Republicans silent? No - that speaks more to the selective shilling of Democrats than Republicans.
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    Apr 04, 2013 4:22 PM GMT
    Why don't you rail about the $20 million spent by Bush and his travels on Air Force One?

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2010/08/05/tantaros-thinks-obama-should-model-bushs-vacati/168835But getting back to her suggestion that following Bush's example would save taxpayer money. President Bush took 149 trips to Camp David, 77 visits to his Crawford ranch, and 11 trips to his father's Kennebunkport mansion. Since Air Force One reportedly cost $56,800 per hour to operate in 2004 (which Bush used to get to Crawford), and the plane can travel up to 630 miles per hour, it cost at least $259,657 to get the 2,880 miles to Crawford and back, each time Bush went, or roughly $20 million dollars just for taking the plane on the Crawford trips alone. Add in the cost of putting up Secret Service and other staff for the ranch trips, as well as the Kennebunkport and Camp David trips, and you get, well, a lot.
  • metta

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    Apr 04, 2013 9:15 PM GMT
    John Kerry To Donate Part Of Salary

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/john-kerry-salary_n_3016235.html





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    Apr 04, 2013 9:18 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    metta8 saidRepublicans Go Silent After President Obama Gives Back 5% of His Salary

    http://www.politicususa.com/game-on-republicans-follow-president-obamas-lead-repaying-5-pay.html


    And your view? Anything? Maybe you could post a picture or something that can help us to decipher how you feel about this?

    Or are you just throwing more stink-bombs in the forum - merely posting links and not contributing your own thoughts to the discussion...

    I hope metta never stops doing it coz it really seems to annoy SB. icon_lol.gif
  • metta

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    Apr 04, 2013 10:27 PM GMT
    Duckworth returns pay to reflect sequestration cuts

    http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20130403/news/704039688/
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    Apr 05, 2013 1:31 AM GMT
    topathlete said
    q1w2e3 said
    topathlete said
    q1w2e3 saidWhat were we talking about again? Oh, symbolic but real cuts to salaries made by the president on himself. Not vacations.

    We are talking about how the president wants everyone to share the sacrifice while he and Michelle jet off separately at huge taxpayer expense. That is the image of today. While the far left will satisfy themselves carping about Bush, most people today will look at what is happening today.

    From a partisan source, but true:

    President Obama's budget is nearly two months overdue. Instead of fulfilling his presidential duties, he is campaigning in San Francisco and sipping cocktails with the liberal elite.

    Our nation is over $16.8 trillion in debt and our economy is stuck in neutral, yet President Obama chooses to spend his time raising money to get his fellow Democrats elected.

    A jaunt to California on Air Force One costs $180,000 per hour. Just last month, the Obama administration announced they were axing White House tours because of the sequester budget cuts. So there's no money for third graders to visit the people's house, but there's plenty of money for President Obama to fly to California for fundraisers?


    How much does a jaunt to Texas cost? How many fundraisers were made by Bush during his Presidency?

    I dunno. If you're so worried about Bush, you figure it out yourself. But I will show you this:

    Book: Obama Held More Fundraisers Than Previous Five Presidents Combined
    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-fundraisers-clinton-reagan/2012/04/29/id/437440

    He fundraises more than governs. Maybe if his past budgets were taken seriously and got even a single vote, maybe if the Senate Dems didn't take 4 years to pass a budget, violating the law, just maybe there wouldn't be a sequester, and your cancer thread would have not existed.






    It NEEDS to be noted that the source you quote on the number of fundraisers is dated

    Sunday, 29 Apr 2012 09:23 PM

    Biased source AND nearly a year old........
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    Apr 05, 2013 1:51 AM GMT
    Nancy Reagan: "Presidents don't get vacations — they just get a change of scenery. The job goes with you."

    And somehow Obama is made to be an exception...and the media concentrates on his golf pics rather than, say, Bush's clearing brush. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 05, 2013 2:33 AM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidNancy Reagan: "Presidents don't get vacations — they just get a change of scenery. The job goes with you."

    And somehow Obama is made to be an exception...and the media concentrates on his golf pics rather than, say, Bush's clearing brush. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Not an exception. Maybe it's the optics that become a lot more glaring considering the moaning coming from the White House over the sequester but whose fault is that?
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    Apr 05, 2013 2:36 AM GMT
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    q1w2e3 saidNancy Reagan: "Presidents don't get vacations — they just get a change of scenery. The job goes with you."

    And somehow Obama is made to be an exception...and the media concentrates on his golf pics rather than, say, Bush's clearing brush. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Not an exception. Maybe it's the optics that become a lot more glaring considering the moaning coming from the White House over the sequester but whose fault is that?


    Obama's stupidity in believing that Republicans actually care about not letting the sequester take place, and Republicans, well, for being Republicans that don't compromise (see the recent Gallup poll).
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    Apr 05, 2013 2:42 AM GMT
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    q1w2e3 saidNancy Reagan: "Presidents don't get vacations — they just get a change of scenery. The job goes with you."

    And somehow Obama is made to be an exception...and the media concentrates on his golf pics rather than, say, Bush's clearing brush. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Not an exception. Maybe it's the optics that become a lot more glaring considering the moaning coming from the White House over the sequester but whose fault is that?


    Obama's stupidity in believing that Republicans actually care about not letting the sequester take place, and Republicans, well, for being Republicans that don't compromise (see the recent Gallup poll).


    In which case you can blame the Senate Democrats for not allowing for a budget to pass for all this time and taking it to the last minute. You can also blame them for shooting down Obama's budget so that it wouldn't go to conference. Your seething hatred for all things Republican is a bit ridiculous. There are many who even think that Obama wanted this to happen given how Republicans took the blame for the government stoppage the last time. Too bad Gallup polling suggests that Obama is getting much of the blame this time around - and rightfully so.

    Incidentally, how much praise from Democrats like yourself did Romney get for taking just a $1 salary when he was in office?
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    Apr 05, 2013 4:26 AM GMT
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    q1w2e3 saidNancy Reagan: "Presidents don't get vacations — they just get a change of scenery. The job goes with you."

    And somehow Obama is made to be an exception...and the media concentrates on his golf pics rather than, say, Bush's clearing brush. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Not an exception. Maybe it's the optics that become a lot more glaring considering the moaning coming from the White House over the sequester but whose fault is that?


    Obama's stupidity in believing that Republicans actually care about not letting the sequester take place, and Republicans, well, for being Republicans that don't compromise (see the recent Gallup poll).


    In which case you can blame the Senate Democrats for not allowing for a budget to pass for all this time and taking it to the last minute. You can also blame them for shooting down Obama's budget so that it wouldn't go to conference. Your seething hatred for all things Republican is a bit ridiculous. There are many who even think that Obama wanted this to happen given how Republicans took the blame for the government stoppage the last time. Too bad Gallup polling suggests that Obama is getting much of the blame this time around - and rightfully so.

    Incidentally, how much praise from Democrats like yourself did Romney get for taking just a $1 salary when he was in office?


    Lol, and your seething hatred for anything remotely Democratic or Obama-related is a bit ridiculous too. Start a thread on something Obama does right, and you'll see me do the same. (In fact, I started a thread called "Let's praise Republicans" not that long ago)

    Nice for Romney to take the salary he thinks he deserves. icon_lol.gif
  • GQjock

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    Apr 05, 2013 12:29 PM GMT
    Holy Crap


    Republicans

    You're bringing up VACATIONS????????

    Do you realize how much time off your last sitting republican President spent cutting Brush????

    Do you even have a CLUE how much time off your precedent setting Do Nothing Congress spends on vacation?

    You're floundering guys ..... but it's fun to watch icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 06, 2013 1:24 AM GMT
    Didn't the right lose all factual credibility concerning vacations already? Remember when they erroneously stated that it would $2 billion for Obama to go to India? (40 planes and 3000 guests)? We already knew that the right was somehow oblivious to the facts and would throw as much stuff to Obama to see what sticks .In 2010 it worked. However, it did not work in 2012. People realized that the far right was too extreme and that the entire Republican party was focusing its efforts on maintaining its image as a extremely conservative party.

    Clearly America spoke and stated that we are not an extremely conservative nation.

    As for Obama's salary, I think its a nice symbol. It shows solidarity. However, I want him to be more aggressive towards those on the other side of the aisle as they are the party of "no".
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    Apr 06, 2013 2:24 AM GMT
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    seoulsearcher saidDidn't the right lose all factual credibility concerning vacations already? Remember when they erroneously stated that it would $2 billion for Obama to go to India?

    Meanwhile, the Iraq war was going to cost $80 billion and pay for itself through oil.....$3-6 Trillion later, no complaints from the GOP. icon_rolleyes.gif That's $9,000 to 18,000 for every man woman and child in the US for a war that shouldn't have happened.

    Better count those pennies, conservatives! (as the dollar bills go flying away in the breeze unnoticed.)


    Who claimed that it would be paid for by oil?
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    Apr 06, 2013 2:40 AM GMT
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    seoulsearcher saidDidn't the right lose all factual credibility concerning vacations already? Remember when they erroneously stated that it would $2 billion for Obama to go to India?

    Meanwhile, the Iraq war was going to cost $80 billion and pay for itself through oil.....$3-6 Trillion later, no complaints from the GOP. icon_rolleyes.gif That's $9,000 to 18,000 for every man woman and child in the US for a war that shouldn't have happened.

    Better count those pennies, conservatives! (as the dollar bills go flying away in the breeze unnoticed.)


    Who claimed that it would be paid for by oil?


    Not literally. One of the arguments was after liberation, we would have increased trade with Iraq (no more sanctions).

    The larger picture is that the right isn't terribly good with numbers. Bush tax cuts and the war are prime examples.

    Admittedly, Obama has a higher deficit. However, this is because he also faced the second worst economic disaster in our nation's history. He knew that austerity wouldn't work (Greece anyone?).

    The odd thing is that instead of admitting that the tax cuts were a failed policy and that the Reinvestment Act actually contributed to decreasing unemployment and helped stabilize the economy, the exact opposite is being told on the right.
  • metta

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    Apr 09, 2013 12:57 AM GMT
    Congress Claims They Are ‘Financially Struggling’, and Refuses to Give Back Salary

    http://www.politicususa.com/congress-follow-obamas-lead-give-salaries-struggling.html