PETA and their not-so-secret slaughtering of animals.

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    Apr 06, 2013 8:44 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winograd/peta-kills-puppies-kittens_b_2979220.html


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    Apr 06, 2013 8:54 PM GMT

    PETA is about ethical treatment of animals - not right to life. Basically it's not that you're killing them, it's how you're killing them.

    Quite frankly I don't like them and never have.

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    Apr 06, 2013 8:57 PM GMT
    But they claim to a shelter or adoption agency but do not do such a thing, they just euthanize. Me thinks they should change their campaign.
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    Apr 06, 2013 9:02 PM GMT
    TrevorMark saidBut they claim to a shelter or adoption agency but do not do such a thing, they just euthanize. Me thinks they should change their campaign.


    Methinks they should have their royal holier-than-thou asses sued from here to kingdom come.
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    Apr 07, 2013 3:35 AM GMT
    What a bunch of dumb fucks. Do you know this whole thing was a made-up gimmick by 'Center for Consumer Freedom" (CCF), a front group for Philip Morris who PETA has been after for force feeding cigarettes to rabbits that was a devastating blow to the company?
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    Apr 07, 2013 3:52 AM GMT
    FranciscoC saidWhat a bunch of dumb fucks. Do you know this whole thing was a made-up gimmick by 'Center for Consumer Freedom" (CCF), a front group for Philip Morris who PETA has been after for force feeding cigarettes to rabbits that was a devastating blow to the company?


    Can you give us a link to a factual article about this? I for one would be greatly relieved.
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    Apr 07, 2013 3:53 AM GMT
    I didn't even bother reading the article, but I have a feeling I know what it's about. PETA is euthanizing animals that don't have homes and people are calling them hypocrites since PETA is supposed to be about the ethical treatment of animals. It's always the same story. The bottom line is that they are better off being euthanized than letting them roam on the streets.
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    Apr 07, 2013 3:53 AM GMT
    viitz saidThe problem comes from breeders and pet owners' irresponsibility.

    No one seems to get it. These animals don't have homes or anyone willing to care for them, but people rarely opt for an animal in the shelter. Instead they prefer to spend a couple of thousand dollars on a purebred or a cute little kitten or puppy which they one day grow tired of and abandon.

    Actions have consequences. Yeah, you can point the finger at peta for killing these animals but no one else seems to be doing anything about it.

    They're very clear about their philosophy.

    It's more than what can be said about the meat and dairy industry which most people have no problem supporting or calling out.

    "What do we do with all these male chicks? Oh I know, lets macerate them."



    And yes, that's what they do with them because they're "useless" to the egg industry.

    Exactly
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    Apr 07, 2013 4:02 AM GMT
    viitz saidThe problem comes from breeders and pet owners' irresponsibility.

    No one seems to get it. These animals don't have homes or anyone willing to care for them, but people rarely opt for an animal in the shelter. Instead they prefer to spend a couple of thousand dollars on a purebred or a cute little kitten or puppy which they one day grow tired of and abandon.

    Actions have consequences. Yeah, you can point the finger at peta for killing these animals but no one else seems to be doing anything about it.

    They're very clear about their philosophy.

    It's more than what can be said about the meat and dairy industry which most people have no problem supporting or calling out.

    "What do we do with all these male chicks? Oh I know, lets macerate them."



    And yes, that's what they do with them because they're "useless" to the egg industry.



    Tell it like it is, brother.
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    Apr 07, 2013 4:09 AM GMT
    jr17 saidI didn't even bother reading the article, but I have a feeling I know what it's about. PETA is euthanizing animals that don't have homes and people are calling them hypocrites since PETA is supposed to be about the ethical treatment of animals. It's always the same story. The bottom line is that they are better off being euthanized than letting them roam on the streets.


    The article talks about animals being put down within hours of being received and poor inadequate living quarters for the ones that aren't.

    Is anyone going to give us a link that effectively refutes this article in the OP?

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    Apr 07, 2013 4:20 AM GMT
    http://www.ibtimes.com/peta-responds-animal-cruelty-charge-no-kill-shelter-advocate-expose-its-own-exclusive-1175469
    Representatives of the nonprofit organization confirmed that PETA does in fact operate a shelter at its Norfolk headquarters that routinely euthanizes animals that are deemed too unhealthy or too dangerous to place in homes. Kathy Guillermo, a senior vice president at PETA, called it a “shelter of last resort,” and explained that the facility takes in animals from surrounding rural areas where they have been exposed to “horrific conditions.”

    Guillermo said, “There are so many rural, very poor communities where there are no services available.” While explaining that PETA operates the facility at its headquarters only because the situation in the surrounding area is so dire, Guillermo insisted that the homeless animal population in the U.S is so massive that it is unrealistic to expect that all can be placed in homes. It might seem counterintuitive that PETA and no-kill shelter advocates would be at odds with each other, but PETA is openly critical of no-kill shelters that turn animals away -- in some cases, PETA has alleged, leading those animals directly to kill shelters. PETA has been doing its own investigation of some of these shelters and has released the results, which it describes as an expose, exclusively to IBTimes.

    “It's stunning that shelters that tout 'no-kill' policies direct people to the very facilities that they publicly condemn,” PETA Vice President Daphna Nachminovitch said. "Contrary to what 'no-kill' advocates would like everyone to believe, there is a huge crisis of homeless animals with nowhere to go, and until people adopt instead of buy, and spay or neuter instead of breed, euthanasia is unavoidable.”




    http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/pet_overpopulation/facts/overpopulation_estimates.html

    Estimated number of cats and dogs entering shelters each year:

    6-8 million (HSUS estimate)

    Estimated number of cats and dogs euthanized by shelters each year:

    3-4 million (HSUS estimate)

    Estimated number of cats and dogs adopted from shelters each year:

    3-4 million (HSUS estimate)
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    Apr 07, 2013 1:39 PM GMT
    Hmmm...the shelter stats are 50% adopted, 50% euthanized.

    PETA's is over 90% euthanized, appalling living conditions and inadequate resources at their shelter.

    They should stick to going after industry abuses of animals.
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    Apr 07, 2013 3:25 PM GMT
    I'm really not very familiar with the issue, mostly because I can't always handle well this level of sadness so, like I do with the numerous abusive RJers, I tend to click it onto ignore. I'm well aware that it exists in the world, even if I choose not to always inundate myself with it.

    I believe their point is that these terrible levels of need can never be satisfied and so they seek what they consider to be the most humane way of expedition, to not have animals roaming and suffering, to reduce animals breeding in the urban wild which would produce even more suffering and to remove animals from abusive humans. I suppose they could catch/release spay/neuter and then I guess you clip an ear so you don't recapture? Which method, that or euthanizing works better to solve this problem? My county does that but from what I've seen of all the ferals I'm gonna bet clipping an ear doesn't make a dent in their populations.

    Christ, I just learned recently that someone in my neighborhood has taken to running over cats as they've been overrunning the neighborhood. And they can get bad, that piss and crap and spray is everywhere. I think that person must be nuts but I understand people getting pissed off. Sad for two neighbors who lost their cats but I both think letting your pet roam irresponsible and I have noticed less smell so I honestly can't complain entirely sincerely much about the lunatic. Their method sucks but they solved a problem. Stupidly, the breeding will continue.

    This is a crazy fucking world. How much money is there to support enough no kill centers to house another 3-4 million furry lives when each one might have about 100 kennels? This problem is so fucking huge. So fucking sad. I fucking hate it.

    PETA has stated that they do kill at their facility but that their facility is in a poor area without the resources for better alternatives. They may seem crazy sometimes but generally from the work that they try to accomplish, I would imagine they'd be willing to discuss with any of us our ideas for a better solution.
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    Apr 07, 2013 9:44 PM GMT
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    FranciscoC saidWhat a bunch of dumb fucks. Do you know this whole thing was a made-up gimmick by 'Center for Consumer Freedom" (CCF), a front group for Philip Morris who PETA has been after for force feeding cigarettes to rabbits that was a devastating blow to the company?


    Can you give us a link to a factual article about this? I for one would be greatly relieved.


    http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/opposition/facts/center_for_consumer_freedom.html?cr=learnmoreaboutccf&gclid=CJSAmK3DubYCFSHZQgodIFQAuA
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    Apr 08, 2013 2:31 PM GMT



    Funny how people who are defending PETA have never ACTUALLY looked into it themselves.

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    Ingrid has said, "even owning an animal is slavery" yet she has a few... riiiiiiight.
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    Apr 08, 2013 2:34 PM GMT
    TrevorMark said


    Funny how people who are defending PETA have never ACTUALLY looked into it themselves.

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    This. Peta is onethical and anyone who supports it is a moron.

    That is all.
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    Apr 08, 2013 2:46 PM GMT
    Oh look, using sensationalism to fight sensationalism. Oh, wait, is PennandTeller doing that or is Peta doing that? It gets so confusing.

    Take care with what you accuse of as a defense that which might merely be an understanding.
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    Apr 08, 2013 2:59 PM GMT
    theantijock saidOh look, using sensationalism to fight sensationalism. Oh, wait, is PennandTeller doing that or is Peta doing that? It gets so confusing.

    Take care with what you accuse of as a defense that which might merely be an understanding.

    And you must believe everything else fed to you by "passionate groups".

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    Apr 08, 2013 3:06 PM GMT
    You seem to understand me really well. Good luck with that.
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    Apr 08, 2013 3:53 PM GMT
    viitz saidThe problem comes from breeders and pet owners' irresponsibility.

    No one seems to get it. These animals don't have homes or anyone willing to care for them, but people rarely opt for an animal in the shelter. Instead they prefer to spend a couple of thousand dollars on a purebred or a cute little kitten or puppy which they one day grow tired of and abandon.

    Actions have consequences. Yeah, you can point the finger at peta for killing these animals but no one else seems to be doing anything about it.

    They're very clear about their philosophy.

    It's more than what can be said about the meat and dairy industry which most people have no problem supporting or calling out.

    "What do we do with all these male chicks? Oh I know, lets macerate them."



    And yes, that's what they do with them because they're "useless" to the egg industry.



    +1000!

    But....you might as well be talking to a brick wall. Gay men are notorious for viewing dogs as furry accessory items. Many gay men are more proud of how much they paid the breeder than the dog itself.
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    Apr 08, 2013 4:25 PM GMT
    jr17 saidI didn't even bother reading the article, but I have a feeling I know what it's about. PETA is euthanizing animals that don't have homes and people are calling them hypocrites since PETA is supposed to be about the ethical treatment of animals. It's always the same story. The bottom line is that they are better off being euthanized than letting them roam on the streets.


    Considering that PETA is trying to get the whole world to become vegan and is against the using of animals for food, clothing or entertainment (movies/tv/etc.) Even though the animals won't have homes it is still very hippocritical of them to euthanize animals. They are also known to have given funding to other extremist animal rights groups to break into laboratories to release test animals keeping their own hands from getting dirty.

    PS. I am against animal testing, but I'm also against releasing those that have been tested on into the streets to either reproduce with other feral/wild species, create new populations in areas they aren't indigenous to, or to be hit by cars.

    PETA is an animal terrorist group and not a rights group