Who said anything about dumb jocks?

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    Apr 12, 2013 3:21 AM GMT
    Research shows working out makes you smarter.

    http://www.mensfitness.com/training/13-ways-exercise-makes-your-brain-work-better
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    Apr 12, 2013 12:46 PM GMT
    http://www.mensfitness.com/training/13-ways-exercise-makes-your-brain-work-better
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    Apr 12, 2013 5:04 PM GMT
    yeah, but that doesn´t say much about the starting level... and a lot of jocks have a fairly low entry level.
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    Apr 12, 2013 7:51 PM GMT
    GonzoTheGreat saidyeah, but that doesn´t say much about the starting level... and a lot of jocks have a fairly low entry level.


    you're such a cynic X
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    Apr 12, 2013 8:19 PM GMT
    I lived in Lincoln, NE, about five blocks from UNL, and I worked for Gold's Gym, in Lincoln, for a while, too.

    In my 39 years in the gym, I've found many athletes to be BRILLIANT people. Not all of them are dumb; not all are jive turkeys. Many do well at everything they pursue. It's the way they are wired.

    In 2007, Congress commissioned a study on bodybuilders. What they found was not what they were expecting. What the GAO found was that not only did the meat heads make more money, were in better shape, were better informed as to health issues, lived longer, but, also that they were much more likely to be in positions of leadership because they were intellectual at nearly every level. The GAO presented that a "scare" campaign without a solid basis in truth (e.g. "Reefer Madness") would have zero to little deterrent effect on their usage patterns, and that it would be heard to make a compelling argument given the science of the day (and now) about the relative safety of the AAS users.

    While many athletes look for an edge, they also are often the most informed, particularly those in middle age.

    Ironically, just as in 1991, in 2008 / Bush years Congress listened to George Bush rather than the GAO, scientists, health care providers, and organizations, and went the wrong direction on this stuff, driving it further underground.

    Many athletes have excellent critical thinking and observation skills....and listening skills (they are coachable), but, are also strong independent, and critical, thinkers.

    I've met MANY collegiate scholarship athletes are way, way, far from being dumb.

    Of course, not all programs in college the same high standards as UNL, and, granted, there are so true morons at the gym, but, those folks aren't usually the best. They're simply too stupid.

    And, yes,.....exercise DOES improve your cognitive function. That's not a secret.
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    Apr 12, 2013 11:49 PM GMT
    Thomas Edison said. "Genius is one per cent inspiration, ninety-nine per cent perspiration." I tend to agree with that. I also think the same can be said of pursuing excellence in some kind of physical activity.

    A lot of sports or other physical activities aren't particularly difficult, but they do require persistence and a degree of "mind over matter". That may come in the form of mastering particular techniques, understanding your role in a team's greater overall strategy, or keeping up your pace despite how much your muscles and lungs may be burning and your body may want to just stop and rest.

    I was a distance runner in high school, and the majority of people on our team were honors students. Sure there were some runners who had a natural talent for endurance, but most success came from a combination of strength of mind and of body. Work ethic is just as important as intelligence.
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    Apr 13, 2013 6:39 AM GMT
    Popular Science did a fascinating article on savants, and folks who's brains are wired differently and some of the new interventions that are coming into play.

    There was a show on either PBS or Nat Geo where they looked at the scans of champion chess players versus neurotypical folks. The differences were immediately obvious.

    Same goes with brain injuries in impact sports. Modern technology can pick up the differences, no problem.

    Synthetic biology and better neurological interventions are going to have a huge impacts on all sorts of things involving brain power, or the lack thereof.
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    Apr 13, 2013 2:17 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidnot all are jive turkeys.


    Rofl, I haven't heard anyone actually say that in 30 years.
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    Apr 15, 2013 4:12 AM GMT
    Yep....I'm old.

    Remember the "Airplane" movie series? LMAO
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    Apr 15, 2013 2:57 PM GMT
    Story: in 1967 it was the first day of my college English class, and the professor was taking role. I had noticed this incredibly huge brute of a guy, comically crammed into his student desk.

    When the professor called out "Mr. Mooseberger?" and this guy answered present, a number of the students laughed. I really felt sorry for him.

    Turns out he was on a football scholarship. And the poor guy really was dumb as a rock, totally out of his element in a college classroom as subsequent sessions demonstrated. I didn't blame him, he was a very nice, polite guy, but rather I faulted the system that had misplaced him there, solely so he could play football for Oklahoma University.

    So I've had my own experiences with dumb jocks, in college & elsewhere. These guys do exist. But then imagine my surprise when I joined RJ, and found it populated with all kinds of brilliant jocks, much smarter than me, so that I have to scramble to keep up with them. Sure, a few aren't so bright, but not very many, at least not among the regulars who post in the forums. I'm lucky if I fall in the middle of the pack.

    No, the stereotype of the dumb jock is much overrated. Except when recruited for competitive team sports I've hardly ever seen one.