Mormon Church Abandons Its Crusade Against Gay Marriage

  • metta

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    Apr 12, 2013 11:32 PM GMT
    Mormon Church Abandons Its Crusade Against Gay Marriage

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/prop-8-mormons-gay-marriage-shift

    "Not everything has changed, of course. The church still filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court in support of Prop. 8, although it doesn't read like the same sort of full-throated anti-gay sentiment that drove the initiative. The church lawyers who drafted the document seem to have bent over backward to express how much they like gays, and to frame the issue in terms of states' rights, as opposed to morality.

    Mormon church doctrine still defines homosexuality as a sin. The gay Mormon website clarifies that while having a same-sex attraction is not a sin, acting on it is. Mayne was only able to take on his leadership role in the church after he broke up with his longtime partner and was single again. And noncelibate LGBT members are still excluded from "temple recommends"—access to the church's most sacred spaces and ceremonies.

    Dabakis says that there are still many points of disagreement. "I don't think the church has given one iota on gay marriage—maybe they never will—and neither have we. On the other hand, we have found a lot of commonalities that we can work on," he says, pointing towards the joint efforts to help homeless kids.

    The LGBT community's best evidence of change within the church is that last year, in the only four states ever to pass marriage equality laws, the church "did not provide one dime or one volunteer," Dabakis says. He adds that in Maryland, when one local Mormon leader tried to organize to oppose a pro-marriage-equality initiative, the church shut her down.

    Regardless of how the Supreme Court rules in the Prop. 8 case, the church responsible for its passage has been permanently changed for the better. In Mayne's view, this all means that Prop. 8, with all its ugliness, happened for a reason: "I believe in our attempt to nail shut the Pandora’s box of gay marriage, we essentially blew the lid off of it."



    http://www.mormonsandgays.org/
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 13, 2013 4:36 PM GMT
    Well at least the Mormon Church is waking up and facing reality on this issue. Now if only the corrupt, hypocritical Roman Catholic Church and the southern right wing protestants would open up their primitive minds and follow suit.
  • Cutlass

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    Apr 16, 2013 7:51 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWell at least the Mormon Church is waking up and facing reality on this issue. Now if only the corrupt, hypocritical Roman Catholic Church and the southern right wing protestants would open up their primitive minds and follow suit.


    The mormons must've come to the realization that they were in a losing battle and that same sex marriages are being approved by voters in northern and western states, and more will soon come. The important thing is that they shouldn't push their religious agenda on all of us who are not of their religion or don't believe in any religion. Yes, if only the r.c. and those evangelical and fundamentalist ones could come to the same conclusion, but I have a hunch that they're going to continue to fight against civil rights and human rights for gays.
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    Apr 16, 2013 8:02 AM GMT
    Maybe they're realizing that half their congregation is actually gay. You wouldn't believe how many gay Mormons I know.
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    Apr 16, 2013 9:53 AM GMT
    I studied the Mormon church for a while for a project I was writing. They were so friendly and welcoming and yet it disturbed me how no one saw anything wrong with asking gays and lesbians to either live alone without fulfilling relationships or families or create false relationships and families. Yeah that's real loving. This is why I am an atheist.
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    Apr 16, 2013 1:04 PM GMT
    SkittleGangsta saidMaybe they're realizing that half their congregation is actually gay. You wouldn't believe how many gay Mormons I know.

    Me, too. In fact, my gay mentor in Seattle had been a Mormon, from a community in rural Oregon. Seattle & Portland are places where young gay Mormons gravitate when their families & church reject them. My mentor was a really cool guy, very kind, generous & gay-savvy, I remain forever indebted to him.

    On the other hand, my ex-BF in Fargo, North Dakota got entangled with a Mormon, who unfortunately wasn't "ex-Mormon" enough. The guy had a guilt trip, publicly confessed and outed himself and my ex during a church service, by name! And my ex had been closeted in Fargo until then. Very messy.