Poll finds 1/3 of Americans support making Christianity the official religion of the United States

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    Apr 13, 2013 12:16 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/06/christianity-state-religion_n_3022255.html?ir=Politics

    "Although the North Carolina House of Representatives killed a bill Thursday that would have paved the way for establishing an official state religion, a new national HuffPost/YouGov poll finds widespread support for doing so.

    The new survey finds that 34 percent of adults would favor establishing Christianity as the official state religion in their own state, while 47 percent would oppose doing so. Thirty-two percent said that they would favor a constitutional amendment making Christianity the official religion of the United States, with 52 percent saying they were opposed.

    Republicans were more likely than Democrats or independents to say that they would favor establishing Christianity as an official state religion, with 55 percent favoring it in their own state and 46 percent favoring a national constitutional amendment."
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    Apr 13, 2013 3:19 PM GMT
    In other words, making the US a theocracy. That in itself sounds quite scary. Obviously the narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs on the right wing of the GOP strongly support this stupid idea of making christianity the official religion of the US.
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    Apr 13, 2013 3:52 PM GMT
    The American Taliban is alive and well in America
    You have no idea how much that report scares me
    Because through out history religion has been the cause of more death and suffering than anything mankind has yet to dream up

    .... On the other hand America likes Professional wrestling and Survivor neither of which are real either
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    Apr 13, 2013 3:57 PM GMT
    But WHICH Christianity? Did any of these people supporting this idea consider that? If you're going to blend theology with law, WHICH theology? Catholic? Baptist? Methodist?

    And what exactly are the bennies of being the Official Religion of the US? Do you get to put it on your letterhead? Is it like being selected as the Official State Bird? Do taxpayers have to support your Christian school, but not non-Christian ones, including Jewish?
  • tazzari

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    Apr 13, 2013 4:09 PM GMT
    Sounds like one-third of Americans haven't read that awkward document, the Constitution. To hope they've read enough history to know what a dreadful idea this is utterly futile.
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    Apr 13, 2013 5:03 PM GMT
    Thank god 52 % of those polled haven't lost what little is left of their US history class.
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    Apr 13, 2013 5:14 PM GMT
    tazzari saidSounds like one-third of Americans haven't read that awkward document, the Constitution. To hope they've read enough history to know what a dreadful idea this is utterly futile.

    But that's the point: they want to AMEND the US Constitution to create an official religion. Then it would be completely legal.
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    Apr 13, 2013 5:42 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidIn other words, making the US a theocracy. That in itself sounds quite scary. Obviously the narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs on the right wing of the GOP strongly support this stupid idea of making christianity the official religion of the US.


    U have the vid together on that one yet? I'm not sure that I know quite how to properly 'thump a bible'
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    Apr 13, 2013 5:43 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidThank god 52 % of those polled haven't lost what little is left of their US history class.


    Cool!
  • creature

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    Apr 13, 2013 6:06 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    roadbikeRob saidIn other words, making the US a theocracy. That in itself sounds quite scary. Obviously the narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs on the right wing of the GOP strongly support this stupid idea of making christianity the official religion of the US.


    U have the vid together on that one yet? I'm not sure that I know quite how to properly 'thump a bible'


    Ask Bill O'Reilly icon_biggrin.gif He made a similar 'Bible-thumping' accusation of the religious right, though on the topic of marriage equality.
  • Guycicle

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    Apr 13, 2013 6:17 PM GMT
    lol so not gonna happen
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    Apr 13, 2013 6:25 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    U have the vid together on that one yet? I'm not sure that I know quite how to properly 'thump a bible'

    I witnessed it in my own senior high school US govt. class. I was directing a discussion of current events, and one of my students mentioned gay rights. Another student jumped to his feet, and held up the Bible he always had with him. He began literally thumping it with his hand, saying the Bible condemned gays as an abomination, etc, etc. The other students shouted him down, and I found myself in the position of defending his right to express an unpopular view during our open discussion session.

    (Ironic footnote: unknown to this homophobe, his own mother's sister was a lesbian, his aunt, a bouncer at our local gay nightclub. And his grandmother frequently went there, too, though straight. They both told me he didn't know his family's gay connections, and to keep it a secret from him, which I did. Though it was hard to keep a "straight" face with him in class sometimes during one of his anti-gay, Bible-thumping tirades, so tempted to burst his bubble about his own family. After HS graduation he went to Canada on evangelical missionary work. Poor Canada!)
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    Apr 13, 2013 6:42 PM GMT
    I would be happy, frankly, to see the Anglican church as the official religion of the United States—this is the only reasonable choice as almost all of the founding fathers were Anglicans.

    ;-)
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    Apr 13, 2013 6:46 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidI would be happy, frankly, to see the Anglican church as the official religion of the United States—this is the only reasonable choice as almost all of the founding fathers were Anglicans.

    ;-)


    that would be deeply ironic as the anglo USA was founded by puritans to escape the imposition of anglicanism on them
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    Apr 13, 2013 11:12 PM GMT
    creature said
    freedomisntfree said
    roadbikeRob saidIn other words, making the US a theocracy. That in itself sounds quite scary. Obviously the narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs on the right wing of the GOP strongly support this stupid idea of making christianity the official religion of the US.


    U have the vid together on that one yet? I'm not sure that I know quite how to properly 'thump a bible'


    Ask Bill O'Reilly icon_biggrin.gif He made a similar 'Bible-thumping' accusation of the religious right, though on the topic of marriage equality.


    I posted it.
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    Apr 13, 2013 11:44 PM GMT
    Agree with Gonzo. The Pilgrim Fathers were puritans who fled England to escape the imposition of a state church on them ie Anglicanism.

    I`m sure the Constitution would allow an amendment to create a 'state' religion, but it would be contrary to the wishes of the founding fathers who saw the USA as radically different from any other country; as a country of no state sponsored religion but with complete religious freedom nevertheless.
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    Apr 14, 2013 2:45 AM GMT
    Lincsbear saidAgree with Gonzo. The Pilgrim Fathers were puritans who fled England to escape the imposition of a state church on them ie Anglicanism.

    I`m sure the Constitution would allow an amendment to create a 'state' religion, but it would be contrary to the wishes of the founding fathers who saw the USA as radically different from any other country; as a country of no state sponsored religion but with complete religious freedom nevertheless.


    In fact, the Pilgrims were encouraged to leave England - they tried Holland first - because the Anglican Church at that point was too liberal for them. When they got here, they promptly set up something awfully close to their own theocracy; some of the slightly later colonies were founded by people who couldn't take the puritan attitudes of the Pilgrims.

    The Elizabethan Settlement had mandated conformity, that's true. But Elizabeth said, "I will make no windows into men's souls" and as long as people outwardly conformed to the C of E, they were left alone. The Puritans wanted none of that - as we see a few years later with the Protectorate under Cromwell - no theaters. no dancing, sabbath observation, no "ceremonies"... That is why the Restoration of Charles II was celebrated annually for many years.

    The puritan/pilgrim lot were a pretty dreary "fundamentalist" bunch who wanted to control all aspects of a person's life. They'd fit in just fine with the people who want to make this a "Christian nation".
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    Apr 14, 2013 1:10 PM GMT
    Seems to be a difference between declaring a state motto, state flora or fauna, a state gemstone even, and a state pick your favorite human characteristic.

    I say we do a national poll for selecting and honoring into eternity a national sexual act.

    Here are some categories:

    Bukkake
    Fellatio
    Group sex
    Kissing
    Masterbation
    & Role Play

    The state salute obviously is the erection.

    Oh look, they're doing the national blow job, everyone salute!
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 14, 2013 4:54 PM GMT
    Lincsbear saidAgree with Gonzo. The Pilgrim Fathers were puritans who fled England to escape the imposition of a state church on them ie Anglicanism.

    I`m sure the Constitution would allow an amendment to create a 'state' religion, but it would be contrary to the wishes of the founding fathers who saw the USA as radically different from any other country; as a country of no state sponsored religion but with complete religious freedom nevertheless.
    A constitutional amendment making christianity the official religion not only goes against the wishes of the founding fathers, it violates the guiding principals of the founding fathers. If any of our country's founding fathers came back to life to see this constitutional travesty unfold, they would most likely murder all the right wing extremists who proposed this idiotic idea.
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    Apr 14, 2013 9:18 PM GMT
    Tough shit. Separation of church and state is memorialized in the First Amendment.

    I don't see the First Amendment being repealed or changed any time soon.

  • tazzari

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    Apr 14, 2013 10:36 PM GMT
    Check the "Best and Worst Educated States" thread. Anyone doubt which end of the scale those favoring a Christian nation live in?