McCain's Campaign: Just Like the Iraq War

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    Oct 18, 2008 11:55 AM GMT
    Over the past several months McCain's campaign has given me an uneasy feeling. But only today did it finally register what this feeling is. It's the feeling of watching a train wreck.

    Here we have two very comparable situations. Two events that require a great deal of planning and foresight in order to be successful and yet in both, we see two Republicans at the helm with no foresight at all. Instead we have last minute improvisation, constant confusion, constant big talk and shows of "shock and owe" followed by lackluster results. Just like Bush and his war, McCain has no exit strategy, no vision and no clear direction towards a victory.

    It's the most obvious proof that McCain is completely inept in matters of governing. Just like Bush, his planning and vision are so short sighted that it's becoming obviously clear, under his presidency we won't just see many failures but more over, we will see disasters!
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    Oct 18, 2008 11:59 AM GMT
    Very good point my man

    One of our little windows into how a candidate will govern is how he runs his campaign
    and the frenetic ineptness of the McCain campaign has been unsettling and startling
    his choices of associates ... contradictions ... meanness all spell trouble for me
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    Oct 18, 2008 12:15 PM GMT
    McC has had the deck stacked against him with Bush, the war, his party, and then the economy falling out from under him just in time for the election.

    But the one thing that he cant blame on anyone else and that striped him of his last vestige of integrity was picking Palin for VP. She is in no way capable of being president. McC is willing to put the security of the country for a political ploy...gimmick..contrivance. He would rather lose an election instead of a war, but will risk the whole country for that same election. Go figure!
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    Oct 18, 2008 12:18 PM GMT
    Well, back around 2000, I actually liked McCain, but he's gone over to the cuckoo side by embracing the religious nuts from his party. Over the years, I have liked him less and less for pandering to the religious right in his party. Palin was the icing on that cake. Creationism as science indeed!
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    Oct 18, 2008 5:45 PM GMT
    He signed on the dotted line with the exact same crew that sarted a whisper campaign against him that he had a black baby out of wedlock in South Carolina in 2000

    Rick Davis et al
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    Oct 18, 2008 7:20 PM GMT
    The war in Iraq is getting on quite well actually, since McCain's surge did the trick.

    If you really want to see a train wreck, watch the first four years of an Obama/Biden administration.

    Americans are the television and now the internet people, we like form over substance and everything in short sound bites to match short attention spans. No wonder Obama is so high in the polls, but polls aren't elections and only the election will tell for sure.

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    Oct 18, 2008 7:29 PM GMT
    Ten to twelve billion dollars a month is considered going quite well? I suppose it is if Fantasyland is at war with the Magic Kingdom it is.
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    Oct 18, 2008 7:30 PM GMT
    I think erratic is still the best way to describe McCain's campaign. Even if he wins, I will still say he is erratic. As far as war and foreign policy, I think Obama has the edge because the world has a more favorable opinion of Obama than McCain and even more so with our NATO allies. Here are some interesting comments by former CIA and Intel professionals on why Obama is favored ..
    http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/09/the-spies-who-love-obama.html

    and why McCain is not ..
    http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/08/why-cia-veterans-are-scared-of-mccain.html
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    Oct 18, 2008 7:39 PM GMT
    The CIA dropped the ball and made us vulnerable to the 9/11 attacks. They tracked Mohammed Atta to Kuala Lampur for an international terrorist convention and knew Atta had an American visa to return. They didn't bother to tell anyone who could do anything about it.

    I think we should contract out the work to the Mossad.



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    Oct 18, 2008 8:05 PM GMT
    John43620 saidThe war in Iraq is getting on quite well actually, since McCain's surge did the trick.
    McCain did not surge anything .. it was Petraeus work and the credit should go to him .. even so the surge was only effective in suppressing violence temporarily. Petraeus says the gains are fragile (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/21/world/middleeast/21general.html). It has also been noted that the surge would not have worked if we had not worked with the suni factions. Also Iran and Moqtada al-Sadr helped negotiate a cease fire. There were many factors that contibuted to the stabilization of IRAQ, not just the surge. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/07/AR2008090701847.html The truth is, if we did not have diplomacy of some sort (as Obama has always stressed) the surge could not have worked because the goal is to stabilize IRAQ. But the overall goal of being able to leave it with some form of self governance has yet to be seen. That brings up another point: IRAQ wants us out as soon as possible. IF the goal has been to give IRAQ freedom, then we have to oblige. The withdrawal plan pretty much matches what Obama has suggested .. not the indefinite 100 years maybe that McCain suggested .. http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jul/22/world/fg-obamairaq22

    The best semblance of victory in IRAQ is to leave them with the freedom of choice and self governance unless you subscribe to the false notion that we are at war AGAINST IRAQ and not trying to leave them with freedom. As it is, since the Shiite's have the majority in IRAQ, the government will ultimately be tied closely to Iran. So we have strengthened Iran and Afghanistan is falling apart because of our involvement in IRAQ. I don't know if everyone would consider that victory if you look at the overall picture.
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    Oct 18, 2008 8:12 PM GMT
    Concur with all above, except with John43620, who is totally detached from the facts. But it is fascinating to see how fanaticism can cause a suspension of reality, sort of like a mental disease. I suspect the psychiatric wards will be overflowing after the Obama victory in less than 3 weeks.

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    Oct 18, 2008 8:13 PM GMT
    John43620 saidThe CIA dropped the ball and made us vulnerable to the 9/11 attacks. ...
    I think we should contract out the work to the Mossad.
    It was Bush and Gang that dropped the ball by not listening to any answers other than what they wanted to hear .. the article I posted alludes to that. As far as Mossad, I am sure we work with them already, but contracting out national security to another country does not seem very "American" to me icon_eek.gif
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    Oct 18, 2008 8:19 PM GMT
    I am afraid if McCain wins, this is what track we will be on .. I hope I am wrong!

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    Oct 18, 2008 8:22 PM GMT
    This can be McCains victory song if he wins .. icon_lol.gif

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    Oct 18, 2008 8:35 PM GMT
    Thank GOD, not many more days of this BS!
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    Oct 18, 2008 8:41 PM GMT
    Ditto
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    Oct 18, 2008 9:50 PM GMT
    you guys know you love it icon_lol.gif why else would you respond?
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    Oct 21, 2008 4:18 AM GMT
    Chizzad saidThank GOD, not many more days of this BS!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You said it !!!!! I'm so sick of the direction the bushies have taken our country in, and the even worse track McPalin are trying to add to the disaster, that i cannot hardly stand another minute of it. I want Obama/Biden to get in there and get this train wreck cleaned up and headed in a direction we americans can be proud of again. God knows though that its such a mess that it could take a decade or more to get it right !!!!!!!!!!!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DITTO THAT -----CURIOUS J !!!!!!!!!!